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Hi
I have started installing my main gear legs but have hit a small snag. The port gear leg inserts easily right up to the last couple of inches. I have greased everything up and deburred the lower opening but don’t want to force anything in case it gets jammed. There are some archived posts that speak about getting jammed legs out and I really don’t want to go there.
Any magical suggestions for getting the legs to go in the last couple of inches and then getting them, out so I can deburr etc? I was thinking about using a heat gun on the gear mount but if that works I am not sure how to get them out again.
Cheers
Les
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This is probably too obvious to be helpful, but I'll give it a shot anyway. The gear only touches the mount in 2 places, about an inch or two right where it exits the fuselage and about an inch or two where it bolts in under the front seat. The neck of the mount is a bigger diameter than the gear leg, so it has to be centered to fit into the last inch or two of the mount. If you are up against the lip of the smaller diameter of the section that has the bolt hole, it won't go any further unless you get it centered. Again, I assume that you already know this, but I figured I'd send it anyway.
I have never seen one not fit right in. Make sure that you have no burrs on the ID of the neck of the mount or on the OD of the gear leg, especially at the bolt hole. Besides that, I don't think I can help.
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
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On Nov 13, 2009, at 12:56 AM, Les Kearney wrote:
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I have started installing my main gear legs but have hit a small snag. The port gear leg inserts easily right up to the last couple of inches. I have greased everything up and deburred the lower opening but don’t want to force anything in case it gets jammed. There are some archived posts that speak about getting jammed legs out and I really don’t want to go there.
Any magical suggestions for getting the legs to go in the last couple of inches and then getting them, out so I can deburr etc? I was thinking about using a heat gun on the gear mount but if that works I am not sure how to get them out again.
Cheers
Les
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| Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:23 am Post subject: Inserting Gear legs |
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It is a weldament... so there could have been some warping that affected the hole size or shape. After trying to insert the gear leg, see if you can see where the scrapping has occurred, and grind a little out of that area.
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From: Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com>
Subject: Re: Inserting Gear legs
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 4:58 AM
This is probably too obvious to be helpful, but I'll give it a shot anyway. The gear only touches the mount in 2 places, about an inch or two right where it exits the fuselage and about an inch or two where it bolts in under the front seat. The neck of the mount is a bigger diameter than the gear leg, so it has to be centered to fit into the last inch or two of the mount. If you are up against the lip of the smaller diameter of the section that has the bolt hole, it won't go any further unless you get it centered. Again, I assume that you already know this, but I figured I'd send it anyway.
I have never seen one not fit right in. Make sure that you have no burrs on the ID of the neck of the mount or on the OD of the gear leg, especially at the bolt hole. Besides that, I don't think I can help.
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Nov 13, 2009, at 12:56 AM, Les Kearney wrote:
| Quote: | Hi
I have started installing my main gear legs but have hit a small snag. The port gear leg inserts easily right up to the last couple of inches. I have greased everything up and deburred the lower opening but don’t want to force anything in case it gets jammed. There are some archived posts that speak about getting jammed legs out and I really don’t want to go there.
Any magical suggestions for getting the legs to go in the last couple of inches and then getting them, out so I can deburr etc? I was thinking about using a heat gun on the gear mount but if that works I am not sure how to get them out again.
Cheers
Les
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My rt gear leg was extrememly difficult to even get it into the mount let alone the last few inches. The problem is that the leg is so heavy and the fit so precise that the correct alignment is difficult to achieve. It really is a two person job. It would be easier if the plane were leaning to one side and the gear leg could be inserted vertically into its' receiver that way the gravity wasn't pulling down on the bottom of the gear leg and throwing the alignment out.
On another note C I truly believe(visual inspection only) my left wheel is pointing out and my right whell is pointing in. I mean the front half of the wheels C closest to the propeller. There was discussion of this with regards to shimmy.
John
From: jesse(at)saintaviation.com
Subject: Re: Inserting Gear legs
Date: Fri C 13 Nov 2009 07:58:52 -0500
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
This is probably too obvious to be helpful C but I'll give it a shot anyway. The gear only touches the mount in 2 places C about an inch or two right where it exits the fuselage and about an inch or two where it bolts in under the front seat. The neck of the mount is a bigger diameter than the gear leg C so it has to be centered to fit into the last inch or two of the mount. If you are up against the lip of the smaller diameter of the section that has the bolt hole C it won't go any further unless you get it centered. Again C I assume that you already know this C but I figured I'd send it anyway.
I have never seen one not fit right in. Make sure that you have no burrs on the ID of the neck of the mount or on the OD of the gear leg C especially at the bolt hole. Besides that C I don't think I can help.
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On Nov 13 C 2009 C at 12:56 AM C Les Kearney wrote:
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I have started installing my main gear legs but have hit a small snag. The port gear leg inserts easily right up to the last couple of inches. I have greased everything up and deburred the lower opening but don’t want to force anything in case it gets jammed. There are some archived posts that speak about getting jammed legs out and I really don’t want to go there.
Any magical suggestions for getting the legs to go in the last couple of inches and then getting them C out so I can deburr etc? I was thinking about using a heat gun on the gear mount but if that works I am not sure how to get them out again.
Cheers
Les
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| Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:42 am Post subject: Inserting Gear legs |
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Hi
Many thanks for all the suggestions. A couple of things, as suggested, seemed to make a big difference. First I deburred the entrance hole on each gear mount. After this was done I was able to start the gear leg. I also cleaned up the top contact point on the mount with some scotch brite.
Although the plans suggest lubrication before the final placement of the gear, I decided to grease things up prior to the initial placement. The archives have a few posts where gear legs have become stuck. I found that bearing grease didn’t help too much. I had to back off as I felt the leg starting to jam. What I found made a world of difference was Permetex Copper Anti Size Lubricant. Using this, the legs slid in with reasonable effort and, most importantly, will also slide out. Before using this I confirmed that it would be okay with Ken Scott (Van’s). His only caution was to clean things up prior to torquing the attach bolts.
Cheers
Les
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PS Bill Watson’s suggestion to use the engine lift to place the fuse on a work bench is brilliantly simple.
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Gonzalez
Sent: November-13-09 9:34 AM
To: RV 10 group
Subject: RE: Inserting Gear legs
My rt gear leg was extrememly difficult to even get it into the mount let alone the last few inches. The problem is that the leg is so heavy and the fit so precise that the correct alignment is difficult to achieve. It really is a two person job. It would be easier if the plane were leaning to one side and the gear leg could be inserted vertically into its' receiver that way the gravity wasn't pulling down on the bottom of the gear leg and throwing the alignment out.
On another note, I truly believe(visual inspection only) my left wheel is pointing out and my right whell is pointing in. I mean the front half of the wheels, closest to the propeller. There was discussion of this with regards to shimmy.
John
From: jesse(at)saintaviation.com
Subject: Re: Inserting Gear legs
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:58:52 -0500
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
This is probably too obvious to be helpful, but I'll give it a shot anyway. The gear only touches the mount in 2 places, about an inch or two right where it exits the fuselage and about an inch or two where it bolts in under the front seat. The neck of the mount is a bigger diameter than the gear leg, so it has to be centered to fit into the last inch or two of the mount. If you are up against the lip of the smaller diameter of the section that has the bolt hole, it won't go any further unless you get it centered. Again, I assume that you already know this, but I figured I'd send it anyway.
I have never seen one not fit right in. Make sure that you have no burrs on the ID of the neck of the mount or on the OD of the gear leg, especially at the bolt hole. Besides that, I don't think I can help.
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Nov 13, 2009, at 12:56 AM, Les Kearney wrote:
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Hi
I have started installing my main gear legs but have hit a small snag. The port gear leg inserts easily right up to the last couple of inches. I have greased everything up and deburred the lower opening but don’t want to force anything in case it gets jammed. There are some archived posts that speak about getting jammed legs out and I really don’t want to go there.
Any magical suggestions for getting the legs to go in the last couple of inches and then getting them, out so I can deburr etc? I was thinking about using a heat gun on the gear mount but if that works I am not sure how to get them out again.
Cheers
Les
#40643
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| Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:23 pm Post subject: Inserting Gear legs |
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Les, thanks for the props on the engine lift/work. Now that you've
apparently done it successfully, please share how you did it. Where/how
did you hook up the lift? I'm getting ready to do it this month.
Thanks
Bill "using 'props' for the first time per the urban dictionary" Watson
Les Kearney wrote:
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Hi
Many thanks for all the suggestions. A couple of things, as suggested,
seemed to make a big difference. First I deburred the entrance hole on
each gear mount. After this was done I was able to start the gear leg.
I also cleaned up the top contact point on the mount with some scotch
brite.
Although the plans suggest lubrication before the final placement of
the gear, I decided to grease things up prior to the initial
placement. The archives have a few posts where gear legs have become
stuck. I found that bearing grease didn’t help too much. I had to back
off as I felt the leg starting to jam. What I found made a world of
difference was Permetex Copper Anti Size Lubricant. Using this, the
legs slid in with reasonable effort and, most importantly, will also
slide out. Before using this I confirmed that it would be okay with
Ken Scott (Van’s). His only caution was to clean things up prior to
torquing the attach bolts.
Cheers
Les
#40643
PS Bill Watson’s suggestion to use the engine lift to place the fuse
on a work bench is brilliantly simple.
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *John Gonzalez
*Sent:* November-13-09 9:34 AM
*To:* RV 10 group
*Subject:* RE: Inserting Gear legs
My rt gear leg was extrememly difficult to even get it into the mount
let alone the last few inches. The problem is that the leg is so heavy
and the fit so precise that the correct alignment is difficult to
achieve. It really is a two person job. It would be easier if the
plane were leaning to one side and the gear leg could be inserted
vertically into its' receiver that way the gravity wasn't pulling down
on the bottom of the gear leg and throwing the alignment out.
On another note, I truly believe(visual inspection only) my left wheel
is pointing out and my right whell is pointing in. I mean the front
half of the wheels, closest to the propeller. There was discussion of
this with regards to shimmy.
John
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From: jesse(at)saintaviation.com
Subject: Re: Inserting Gear legs
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:58:52 -0500
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
This is probably too obvious to be helpful, but I'll give it a shot
anyway. The gear only touches the mount in 2 places, about an inch or
two right where it exits the fuselage and about an inch or two where
it bolts in under the front seat. The neck of the mount is a bigger
diameter than the gear leg, so it has to be centered to fit into the
last inch or two of the mount. If you are up against the lip of the
smaller diameter of the section that has the bolt hole, it won't go
any further unless you get it centered. Again, I assume that you
already know this, but I figured I'd send it anyway.
I have never seen one not fit right in. Make sure that you have no
burrs on the ID of the neck of the mount or on the OD of the gear leg,
especially at the bolt hole. Besides that, I don't think I can help.
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse(at)saintaviation.com <mailto:jesse(at)saintaviation.com>
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Nov 13, 2009, at 12:56 AM, Les Kearney wrote:
Hi
I have started installing my main gear legs but have hit a small
snag. The port gear leg inserts easily right up to the last couple
of inches. I have greased everything up and deburred the lower
opening but don’t want to force anything in case it gets jammed.
There are some archived posts that speak about getting jammed legs
out and I really don’t want to go there.
Any magical suggestions for getting the legs to go in the last
couple of inches and then getting them, out so I can deburr etc? I
was thinking about using a heat gun on the gear mount but if that
works I am not sure how to get them out again.
Cheers
Les
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