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norman96(at)telus.net
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 Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:52 pm Post subject: Brakes |
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Hi everybody, I'm poking around my long dormant resurrected kit and noticing the right side optional brake pedal lines are white plastic. Does any one sell a kit to do this with nicer lines? Can small AN fittings be used here?
I was reading about a brake pedal improvement where the short pivot point bolts are replaced with AN3-60 bolts. The result is one bolt all the way across the bottom of the pedal instead of a single bolt on each side. The better alignment of the single bolt shaft reduces the possibility of binding and makes the pedals operate smoother. Is this true?
I also read some time back about one complaining about draggy brakes and the need to upgrade the springs on the master cylinders for stronger ones. Is this true?
And what about the brakes? My Vans wheels and brakes and tires are now about ten years old. Is it worth while to install Grove wheels and brakes? Do they work better?
http://www.groveaircraft.com/56-1a.html
Who makes the best tires?
Thanks for your support....
Norman Hunger
RV6A Delta BC
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Kellym
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| Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:34 pm Post subject: Brakes |
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http://www.bonacoinc.com/
I believe they have kits for your RV, but the website has little info
beyond what hose and fittings they have available.
Norman Hunger wrote:
| Quote: | Hi everybody, I'm poking around my long dormant resurrected kit and
noticing the right side optional brake pedal lines are white plastic.
Does any one sell a kit to do this with nicer lines? Can small AN
fittings be used here?
I was reading about a brake pedal improvement where the short pivot
point bolts are replaced with AN3-60 bolts. The result is one bolt all
the way across the bottom of the pedal instead of a single bolt on each
side. The better alignment of the single bolt shaft reduces the
possibility of binding and makes the pedals operate smoother. Is this true?
I also read some time back about one complaining about draggy brakes and
the need to upgrade the springs on the master cylinders for stronger
ones. Is this true?
And what about the brakes? My Vans wheels and brakes and tires are now
about ten years old. Is it worth while to install Grove wheels and
brakes? Do they work better?
http://www.groveaircraft.com/56-1a.html
Who makes the best tires?
Thanks for your support....
Norman Hunger
RV6A Delta BC
Do not archive
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Bret Smith
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| Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:14 pm Post subject: Brakes |
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Call Brett at Bonaco, he knows exactly what you need.
Bret Smith
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Blue Ridge, GA
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t.gummo(at)verizon.net
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| Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:24 pm Post subject: Brakes |
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On the non pressure side, they are nice as you can see if there is RED fluid
in the lines.
Tom Gummo
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370 hours and still smiling.
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Kellym
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| Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:13 pm Post subject: Brakes |
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If you mean Mil 5606, consider an improvement:
"Standard" brake fluid for GA aircraft is MIL-H-5606. This fluid has
been around forever and works fine, but can be improved upon.
MIL-H-83282 was introduced a few years back and is a synthetic upgrade.
It performs better in every regard, but of special interest is the flash
point. 5606 has a flash point of around 225° whereas 83282 is around
425°. This can be a factor with RVs because there have been several
reported cases of brake fires on RVs and some have taken the whole
aircraft with it. Do yourself a favor, upgrade the standard MIL-H-5606
to MIL-H-83282: Royco 782 or Aero Shell 31.
Tom Gummo wrote:
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On the non pressure side, they are nice as you can see if there is RED
fluid in the lines.
Tom Gummo
Harmon Rocket II
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bicyclop(at)pacbell.net
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| Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:37 pm Post subject: Brakes |
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And Viton O-rings at the calipers. They're rated for higher temps.
Pax,
Ed Holyoke
Kelly McMullen wrote:
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If you mean Mil 5606, consider an improvement:
"Standard" brake fluid for GA aircraft is MIL-H-5606. This fluid has
been around forever and works fine, but can be improved upon.
MIL-H-83282 was introduced a few years back and is a synthetic
upgrade. It performs better in every regard, but of special interest
is the flash point. 5606 has a flash point of around 225° whereas
83282 is around 425°. This can be a factor with RVs because there have
been several reported cases of brake fires on RVs and some have taken
the whole aircraft with it. Do yourself a favor, upgrade the standard
MIL-H-5606 to MIL-H-83282: Royco 782 or Aero Shell 31.
Tom Gummo wrote:
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> On the non pressure side, they are nice as you can see if there is
> RED fluid in the lines.
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> Tom Gummo
> Harmon Rocket II
> 370 hours and still smiling.
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roger(at)smartdrive.com
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:54 am Post subject: Brakes |
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With the plastic lines going to the wheels we should use the one with
the higher flashpoint
Kelly McMullen wrote:
[quote]
If you mean Mil 5606, consider an improvement:
"Standard" brake fluid for GA aircraft is MIL-H-5606. This fluid has
been around forever and works fine, but can be improved upon.
MIL-H-83282 was introduced a few years back and is a synthetic
upgrade. It performs better in every regard, but of special interest
is the flash point. 5606 has a flash point of around 225° whereas
83282 is around 425°. This can be a factor with RVs because there have
been several reported cases of brake fires on RVs and some have taken
the whole aircraft with it. Do yourself a favor, upgrade the standard
MIL-H-5606 to MIL-H-83282: Royco 782 or Aero Shell 31.
Tom Gummo wrote:
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> On the non pressure side, they are nice as you can see if there is
> RED fluid in the lines.
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> Tom Gummo
> Harmon Rocket II
> 370 hours and still smiling.
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