chaskuss(at)yahoo.com
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 Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:27 pm Post subject: Brake upgrade kit was Brake Fire |
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Dave,
I'm not Ed, but I'd be happy to "play" him on TV!  Cleveland's HD brake kit upgrade is: #199-093 Both ACS and Wicks carry this upgrade kit. This consists of 2 rotors (.300" thick), two spacers for the calipers, longer bolts, washers and a new set of pad linings.
The stock rotors are 3/16" thick. I felt the cost was high for what you get. I found a Long Eze builder who had a left over set of NOS [new old stock] Cleveland 5:00 X 5 wheels [same as all 1 & 2 place RVs use] with .375" thick brake rotors. He had stored the wheel/rotor assemblies with the rotor facing the bottom of the cardboard box. Because of this, the outside face of both rotors were rusty.
I sold the extra wheels, resurfaced the rotors by removing 1/16" off the outer face. This gave me two 5/16" [.312"] rotors. I made the spacers myself, in under half an hour out of .125" thick 6061-T6 plate. I reassembled the calipers using longer bolts with the home made spacers installed between the two halves of the calipers. Everything worked out great because my new rotors are 1/8" thicker than stock. The spacers I made are also 1/8" thick. You will need a set of transfer punches to accurately locate the bolt holes into the spacers. You can borrow these from a machinist buddy or buy a set at Harbor Freight. See
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=3577
I can provide some photos of my modified calipers, if needed. I sold the wheels for what the wheels/rotors cost me, so the modification was a freebie for me.
Charlie Kuss
PS The Long Eze guys decided long ago that Cleveland brakes were no good. They all purchased Matco wheels/brakes. I found mine by posting a WTB ad on http://forum.canardaviation.com/ I got 10 guys wanting to sell me their left over Cleveland stuff.
--- On Wed, 11/18/09, dave.gribble(at)mchsi.com <dave.gribble(at)mchsi.com> wrote:
[quote] From: dave.gribble(at)mchsi.com <dave.gribble(at)mchsi.com>
Subject: Re: Brake Fire wasBrakes
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 10:08 AM
Hi Ed - thanks for posting.... can you post the part number
/ source / approximate $$ of the thicker rotors?
Thanks again,
dave
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com>
>
>
>
> I whole heartedly agree with Ed Holyoke about
replacing the MIL-H_5606 with
> the Mil-H-8328. Being one of those who had
experience with a brake fluid
> fire while using the older MIL-H_5606, I never
realized until after the
> incident that its' flash point was just a bit above
the boiling point of
> water. Fortunately I only lost a wheel
pant an tube/tire out of the
> incident.
>
> I also replace the aluminum tubes ( the side of the
right brake line blew a
> chunk out and sprayed the hot rotor with brake fluid)
with stainless steel
> braided brake lines and replace the brake rotors with
a set that had double
> the thickness of the standard RV brake rotor.
Doubling the mass with the
> same amount of heat effectively reduces the
temperature of the mass.
>
> The thicker rotors provided an unexpected side benefit
in that brake fade
> even after a hard stop is gone and the pads wear more
evenly and last
> longer.
>
> But, of all my changes the switch to the MIL-H-8328 is
the cheapest and
> probably the most effective in reducing probably of
brake fluid fire.
>
> YMMV
>
> Ed
>
> Ed Anderson
>
> Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
>
> Matthews, NC
>
> eanderson(at)carolina.rr.com
>
> http://www.andersonee.com
>
> http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html
>
> http://www.flyrotary.com/
>
> http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW
>
> http://www.rotaryaviation.com/Rotorhead%20Truth.htm
>
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