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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:10 pm    Post subject: QB Fuel tank issue Reply with quote

I discovered that one of my fuel tanks has the vent line improperly
bent in the inboard bay, such that it runs down the middle between the
two stiffeners, leaving no room for the sending unit float, either in
front or behind. Email with Vans has suggested trying to loosen the
nut on the inside to disconnect the vent line, and re-bend it. I think
this might be possible if I pulled the line out perhaps 8-10". Can
anyone comment on feasibility, given the need aftewards to maneuver
the far end back into the clip at the gas cap flange? Obviously all
operations would have to be done by feel with the amount of fingers
that can go into sending unit hole and gas cap flange on other end. I
don't think even a child's hand would go all the way through those
holes.
Just another area of total lack of QC on the QB process.
Kelly
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:31 pm    Post subject: QB Fuel tank issue Reply with quote

I pulled my vent line out once all my ribs were in place and re-ran it through the correct holes without any issues.

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I discovered that one of my fuel tanks has the vent line improperly
bent in the inboard bay, such that it runs down the middle between the
two stiffeners, leaving no room for the sending unit float, either in
front or behind. Email with Vans has suggested trying to loosen the
nut on the inside to disconnect the vent line, and re-bend it. I think
this might be possible if I pulled the line out perhaps 8-10". Can
anyone comment on feasibility, given the need aftewards to maneuver
the far end back into the clip at the gas cap flange? Obviously all
operations would have to be done by feel with the amount of fingers
that can go into sending unit hole and gas cap flange on other end. I
don't think even a child's hand would go all the way through those
holes.
 Just another area of total lack of QC on the QB process.
Kelly
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:32 pm    Post subject: QB Fuel tank issue Reply with quote

never mind, I did not finish reading, my top was not installed yet. 

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I discovered that one of my fuel tanks has the vent line improperly
bent in the inboard bay, such that it runs down the middle between the
two stiffeners, leaving no room for the sending unit float, either in
front or behind. Email with Vans has suggested trying to loosen the
nut on the inside to disconnect the vent line, and re-bend it. I think
this might be possible if I pulled the line out perhaps 8-10". Can
anyone comment on feasibility, given the need aftewards to maneuver
the far end back into the clip at the gas cap flange? Obviously all
operations would have to be done by feel with the amount of fingers
that can go into sending unit hole and gas cap flange on other end. I
don't think even a child's hand would go all the way through those
holes.
 Just another area of total lack of QC on the QB process.
Kelly
40866
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:59 pm    Post subject: QB Fuel tank issue Reply with quote

Get a new sender wire and bend the bugger so that the float runs along
parallel with the vent line. 90 degree bend near the shepards hook. It will
take some patience to get it right, and it will look like a road map, but
your only other answer will involve cutting an inspection hole like the
other RV's. You will need a new wire because by the time you get this groovy
thing bent up its going to take more wire than the standard deal. Dont cut
the wire and put the last little bend in until last...the one that goes
through the sender.....
Cheers..
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:39 pm    Post subject: QB Fuel tank issue Reply with quote

From my experience, you should be able to get the line back through
the clip via the fuel filler cap. My recommendation would be to get
someone with fuel tanks still open to try it for you and see if it's
doable.

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Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation
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On Nov 26, 2009, at 5:09 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com> wrote:

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I discovered that one of my fuel tanks has the vent line improperly
bent in the inboard bay, such that it runs down the middle between the
two stiffeners, leaving no room for the sending unit float, either in
front or behind. Email with Vans has suggested trying to loosen the
nut on the inside to disconnect the vent line, and re-bend it. I think
this might be possible if I pulled the line out perhaps 8-10". Can
anyone comment on feasibility, given the need aftewards to maneuver
the far end back into the clip at the gas cap flange? Obviously all
operations would have to be done by feel with the amount of fingers
that can go into sending unit hole and gas cap flange on other end. I
don't think even a child's hand would go all the way through those
holes.
Just another area of total lack of QC on the QB process.
Kelly
40866
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 5:45 pm    Post subject: QB Fuel tank issue Reply with quote

Thanks Jesse. Don't know anyone in that phase nearby, but will take
careful measurements as to how far I would need to pull the line out
and see how much is on the other end..perhaps borrow a borescope to
get a real good look at it.

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From my experience, you should be able to get the line back through the clip
via the fuel filler cap.  My recommendation would be to get someone with
fuel tanks still open to try it for you and see if it's doable.

Do not archive.

Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation
jesse(at)saintaviation.com
352-427-0285

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On Nov 26, 2009, at 5:09 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> I discovered that one of my fuel tanks has the vent line improperly
> bent in the inboard bay, such that it runs down the middle between the
> two stiffeners, leaving no room for the sending unit float, either in
> front or behind. Email with Vans has suggested trying to loosen the
> nut on the inside to disconnect the vent line, and re-bend it. I think
> this might be possible if I pulled the line out perhaps 8-10". Can
> anyone comment on feasibility, given the need aftewards to maneuver
> the far end back into the clip at the gas cap flange? Obviously all
> operations would have to be done by feel with the amount of fingers
> that can go into sending unit hole and gas cap flange on other end. I
> don't think even a child's hand would go all the way through those
> holes.
> Just another area of total lack of QC on the QB process.
> Kelly
> 40866
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>
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:56 pm    Post subject: Re: QB Fuel tank issue Reply with quote

Kelly,

I've got QB tanks not far from you in Mesa. The sender is in one but not the other. You are welcome to come look at mine if it helps.
Myron
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:13 pm    Post subject: QB Fuel tank issue Reply with quote

A little off topic, but as a new guy, I was very interested in the actual amount of USABLE fuel in my QB tanks.  So I ran the right tank out in the air last week, and after getting on the ground was pleasantly pleased to drain a whopping 4oz out. Then refueled... where the tank took every bit of 30 gallons.
Hope all of you didn't eat toooo much today.... but even if you did, it doesn't matter.... because we fly the RV10!
Don McDonald

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From: Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com>
Subject: Re: QB Fuel tank issue
To: "rv10-list(at)matronics.com" <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>
Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 3:28 PM

--> RV10-List message posted by: Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)>

From my experience, you should be able to get the line back through the clip via the fuel filler cap. My recommendation would be to get someone with fuel tanks still open to try it for you and see if it's doable.

Do not archive.

Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation
jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)
352-427-0285

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On Nov 26, 2009, at 5:09 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com (apilot2(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

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--> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com (apilot2(at)gmail.com)>

I discovered that one of my fuel tanks has the vent line improperly
bent in the inboard bay, such that it runs down the middle between the
two stiffeners, leaving no room for the sending unit float, either in
front or behind. Email with Vans has suggested trying to loosen the
nut on the inside to disconnect the vent line, and re-bend it. I think
this might be possible if I pulled the line out perhaps 8-10". Can
anyone comment on feasibility, given the need aftewards to maneuver
the far end back into the clip at the gas cap flange? Obviously all
operations would have to be done by feel with the amount of fingers
that can go into sending unit hole and gas cap flange on other end. I
don't think even a child's hand would go all the way through those
holes.
Just another area of total lack of QC on the QB process.
Kelly
40866
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:12 am    Post subject: QB Fuel tank issue Reply with quote

I did the same once.....same results....I was absolutely AMAZED. Mine fill with near 31 gallons if I go to the rim.
Tim


On Nov 27, 2009, at 12:12 AM, Don McDonald <building_partner(at)yahoo.com (building_partner(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:

[quote]A little off topic, but as a new guy, I was very interested in the actual amount of USABLE fuel in my QB tanks. So I ran the right tank out in the air last week, and after getting on the ground was pleasantly pleased to drain a whopping 4oz out. Then refueled... where the tank took every bit of 30 gallons.
Hope all of you didn't eat toooo much today.... but even if you did, it doesn't matter.... because we fly the RV10!
Don McDonald

--- On Thu, 11/26/09, Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)> wrote:

Quote:

From: Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)>
Subject: Re: QB Fuel tank issue
To: "rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)" <rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)>
Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 3:28 PM

--> RV10-List message posted by: Jesse Saint <[url=mailto:jesse(at)saintaviation.com]jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)[/url]>

From my experience, you should be able to get the line back through the clip via the fuel filler cap. My recommendation would be to get someone with fuel tanks still open to try it for you and see if it's doable.

Do not archive.

Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation
[url=mailto:jesse(at)saintaviation.com]jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)[/url]
352-427-0285

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--> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen <[url=mailto:apilot2(at)gmail.com]apilot2(at)gmail.com (apilot2(at)gmail.com)[/url]>

I discovered that one of my fuel tanks has the vent line improperly
bent in the inboard bay, such that it runs down the middle between the
two stiffeners, leaving no room for the sending unit float, either in
front or behind. Email with Vans has suggested trying to loosen the
nut on the inside to disconnect the vent line, and re-bend it. I think
this might be possible if I pulled the line out perhaps 8-10". Can
anyone comment on feasibility, given the need aftewards to maneuver
the far end back into the clip at the gas cap flange? Obviously all
operations would have to be done by feel with the amount of fingers
that can go into sending unit hole and gas cap flange on other end. I
don't think even a child's hand would go all the way through those
holes.
Just another area of total lack of QC on the QB process.
Kelly
40866
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