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Geoff Heap

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 266
Location: Lindenwold, New Jersey

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:11 am Post subject: LOOKING FOR RIGHT ANGLE BNC CONNECTOR

Bob or anyone. I cannot find a right angle BNC connector for my Icom A210. I know this sounds easy but let me explain. I have a Fuel Header tank behind my panel, against the firewall. When my radio is mounted there is only about 1â€-1Â½â€ space at the rear of the radio available for the Coax cable so I need a Right angle BNC connector. NOTE I did not say adaptor. The Radio needs a Male PUSH/PULL connector. Not the twist on twist off. (Those are easy to find). With the radio came a straight BNC connector. I can push that in and add an adaptor but the combined length of the two is too much. What I need is a right angle PUSH/PULL Male or even a Tee connection Male-female/female. Cruising around the web I can't seem to find one. Surely they exist? Your assistance would be real nice.....Geoff

nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelect
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:02 am Post subject: LOOKING FOR RIGHT ANGLE BNC CONNECTOR

At 09:11 AM 11/30/2009, you wrote:

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Bob or anyone. I cannot find a right angle BNC 

connector for my Icom A210. I know this sounds 

easy but let me explain. I have a Fuel Header 

tank behind my panel, against the firewall. When 

my radio is mounted there is only about 

1â€-1Â½â€ space at the rear of the radio 

available for the Coax cable so I need a Right 

angle BNC connector. NOTE I did not say adaptor. 

The Radio needs a Male PUSH/PULL connector. Not 

the twist on twist off. (Those are easy to 

find). With the radio came a straight BNC 

connector. I can push that in and add an adaptor 

but the combined length of the two is too much. 

What I need is a right angle PUSH/PULL Male or 

even a Tee connection Male-female/female. 

Cruising around the web I can't seem to find 

one. Surely they exist? Your assistance would be real nice.....Geoff


	


   The connector your looking for is:



http://www.aeroelectric.com/Pictures/Connectors/Coax/TED_9-30-10_A.jpg



http://www.aeroelectric.com/Pictures/Connectors/Coax/Ted_9-30-10.jpg



   Did a search on TED, "9-30-10", and connector and got 24,000 hits.



        Bob . . .



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PaulR

Joined: 13 Nov 2008
Posts: 22
Location: Alabama

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:17 am Post subject: Re: LOOKING FOR RIGHT ANGLE BNC CONNECTOR

Bob,

Is it possible to find one of these that is a crimp on?  I need to replace the one on the back of my GTX-327 and I'd rather have a crimp on than a solder connection.



Thanks



Paul

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Geoff Heap

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 266
Location: Lindenwold, New Jersey

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:09 am Post subject: Re: LOOKING FOR RIGHT ANGLE BNC CONNECTOR

Bob. This is the straight PUSH/PULL that I said that I already have. If I now connect a right angle adapter to it, its too long to fit into my panel. I need a 90 degree version of the 9-30-10. Then I can slide my radio into place, but only just. Go to the link below and see the fourth picture. If that tee connector was a PUSH/PULL male instead of a Twist on/off male it would work.

http://www.youravcablestore.com/rca-to-bnc-adapter.html

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berkut13(at)berkut13.com
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:28 am Post subject: LOOKING FOR RIGHT ANGLE BNC CONNECTOR

As Bob's picture shows, the 9-30-10 IS a 90-degree connector - coax comes 

out the small opening shown at the top and that would be 90-degrees from the 

connector that mates with the radio.  What you are describing doesn't add 

up.  I have the Icom A200 installed (same tray).



Are you using the radio mounting tray?  If so, then it has one of these 

connectors natively installed in the tray and it IS already 90-degree.  If 

you have the tray installed in the panel, and the panel on the plane, that 

is as far forward at it gets.  Sliding the radio into the tray changes 

nothing dimensionally.



Are you describing "sliding" the mounting tray into position in the panel? 

If you are, I think you are going to have to "make" some room on that header 

tank, re-position the radio tray, or change to a shorter radio.



A picture or two here might help us all understand what your specific 

problem is.



James Redmon

Berkut #013/Race 13

www.berkut13.com

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Geoff Heap

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 266
Location: Lindenwold, New Jersey

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:05 pm Post subject: Re: LOOKING FOR RIGHT ANGLE BNC CONNECTOR

Thanks James. I just spoke to â€œsupportâ€ at Iacom. I was directed to the installation guide for the a200. This guide uses the fitting that Bob suggested. However, they showed how to solder the connector, which made clear to me the fact that the small opening IS the 90Â° connection. I thought that Bob was offering me another straight connector. For the A210, IACOM switched from the part that you have James to the straight one that I have. Problem solved now. Thanks to allâ€¦Geoff

Speedy11(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:50 am Post subject: LOOKING FOR RIGHT ANGLE BNC CONNECTOR

Use a 90 degree BNC adapter if you like, but I recommended against using  them.  I had a tight spot for an antenna connection and used a 90 degree  BNC.  I had very poor radio transmissions.  I sent the radio back to  Garmin for repairs, I changed the coax and recrimped new connectors, I checked  the antenna - nothing seemed to help.  I finally decided to try  removing the 90 degree and ran the coax straight into the antenna.   Instantly the problem was solved.  I don't know what the problem was with  the 90 BNC, but I recommend never using them.

 But, I'm just an ignorant layman.  Just ask my wife.

 Stan Sutterfield

  

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		  I found    a 90deg replacement it's a little expensive at $25 ea. Nice thing there

is    no soldering required.  I also found a few sites that have it in    stock. 	


 

  

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ianxbrown

Joined: 16 May 2009
Posts: 80

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 8:05 am Post subject: LOOKING FOR RIGHT ANGLE BNC CONNECTOR

Why would 90 degree connectors all be faulty because one person had one?  It's probably not a good use of time to do a survey of the membership of this list, but I for one use a 90 degree BNC connector to my com antenna and my GPS antenna and both are fine.  I suspect, Stan, that you had a dud and that there is nothing fundamentally wrong with 90 degree, or any other connector for that matter, that a manufacturer puts time, tooling, testing effort into.   

 

 Ian Brown

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Noplugs

Joined: 27 Aug 2009
Posts: 35
Location: Houston, TX

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:14 am Post subject: Re: LOOKING FOR RIGHT ANGLE BNC CONNECTOR

The 90Deg replacement I mentioned previously is not a the common of the shelf BNC 90deg adapter. It is a replacement for the TED 9-30-10. I have them in my Terra radio trays. I see that ICOM has a straight version also, I understand they are used with several manufacture's equipment like King. So IF you have the "TED 9-30-10", the DBA-600 looks to be a nice clean application replacement for the "TED 9-30-10" Look at my attachment it shows both connectors and you can see it is not the common BNC 90deg adapter.

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Speedy11(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:54 pm Post subject: LOOKING FOR RIGHT ANGLE BNC CONNECTOR

Ian,

 You are correct.

 For my aircraft, I will never again use a 90 degree BNC connector.  I  will find another way to make the desired connection(s).

 Stan Sutterfield

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		  Why    would 90 degree connectors all be faulty because one person had one?

It's    probably not a good use of time to do a survey of the membership of

this    list, but I for one use a 90 degree BNC connector to my com antenna

and my    GPS antenna and both are fine.  I suspect, Stan, that you had a

dud    and that there is nothing fundamentally wrong with 90 degree, or any

other    connector for that matter, that a manufacturer puts time, tooling,

testing    effort into.   



Ian Brown

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From: Speedy11(at)aol.com

Subject: Re:    LOOKING FOR RIGHT ANGLE BNC CONNECTOR



Use a 90 degree BNC adapter if    you like, but I recommended against using

them.  I had a tight spot    for an antenna connection and used a 90 degree

BNC.  I had very poor    radio transmissions.  I sent the radio back to

Garmin for repairs, I    changed the coax and recrimped new connectors, I

checked the antenna -    nothing seemed to help.  I finally decided to try

removing the 90    degree and ran the coax straight into the antenna.

Instantly the problem    was solved.  I don't know what the problem was

with the 90 BNC, but I    recommend never using them.

But, I'm just an ignorant layman.  Just    ask my wife.

Stan Sutterfield

	


 

  

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rv8iator

Joined: 11 Apr 2006
Posts: 144
Location: Newberg, OR

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:39 am Post subject: LOOKING FOR RIGHT ANGLE BNC CONNECTOR

For RF connectors of all types try...



90 degree

http://www.aaarfproducts.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=43

RF connectors

http://www.pasternack.com/



Cable and connectors

http://www.fccable.com/

Chris Stone

RV-8



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I found a 90deg replacement it's a little expensive at $25 ea. Nice thing there is no soldering required.  I also found a few sites that have it in stock. 



http://www.keenzo.com/showproduct.asp?ID=1274376



http://www.texomajet.com/ProductDisplay.aspx?CatID=148&SubCatID=869&CatName=RF%20CONNECTORS&SubCatName=ALL%20TRAY%20MOUNT

http://www.allaeroparts.com/ProductDisplay.aspx?CatID=148&SubCatID=869&CatName=RF%20CONNECTORS&SubCatName=ALL%20TRAY%20MOUNT





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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 77253#277253





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Geoff Heap

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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Location: Lindenwold, New Jersey

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:55 am Post subject: Re: LOOKING FOR RIGHT ANGLE BNC CONNECTOR

My 10 cents is that the 9-30-10 is not an adaptor. The item in the A200 installation picture attached is a 9-30-10 from lanepilot.com. $25.00 with shipping. (or $52 from ICOM)

This part was a supplied item with the A200. They stopped when they came out with the A210.

 



Now a question.

	I have soldered the connection in two places as shown.

When I solder the antenna connector on the other end. Should I also solder the braid to the connector body or should I separate the braid and ground it to the airframe or should I trim it back and not solder it anywhere. (I soldered braid to connector body)

	Reason I'm asking is that all I'm getting from the speaker is a hissing sound. To keep it simple I started by hooking up the speaker only. nothing else. I suspect my coaxial wire (RG58 A/U) because when I pull the coax out of the A200 the noise is unchangedâ€¦â€¦..Geoff

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Neal.George(at)hurlburt.a
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:06 am Post subject: LOOKING FOR RIGHT ANGLE BNC CONNECTOR

Geoff - 



The insulating and jacketing materials used in RG-58 are vulnerable to the temps encountered in soldering operations.  RG-400 is much better suited to this application. 



When using coax to feed an antenna, the shield must be electrically connected at both ends.  On antennas that employ a BNC-type connector, the connector shells provide the circuit path from the radio case ground to the aircraft skin, which serves as the antenna ground plane.  Whether the braid is soldered or clamped to the shell with some sort of threaded or crimped fastener is determined by the particular connector design.  



It is quite possible that the heat of soldering was sufficient to melt the foam insulation separating the center conductor and the braided shield.  If the two get together, things don't work so good, and transmitting could damage the radio's RF output circuit.



Finally, if you haven't checked/adjusted the radio's squelch setting, it may be set low enough that the hiss you're hearing is normal white noise.  Tighten the squelch and see if the hiss goes away.



Neal

N8ZG



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Geoff Heap

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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Location: Lindenwold, New Jersey

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:46 am Post subject: Re: LOOKING FOR RIGHT ANGLE BNC CONNECTOR

Sorry. I wasn't complaining about the hiss. I was complaining that, that was all i got. I live under Philadelphia approach. Commercial craft at a couple thousand feet most of the day. I thought I would be picking up some of that. I'll borrow a hand held and test it with that on Saturday.

user9253

Joined: 28 Mar 2008
Posts: 1927
Location: Riley TWP Michigan

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:22 am Post subject: Re: LOOKING FOR RIGHT ANGLE BNC CONNECTOR

Geoff Heap,

Have you tried a portable antenna?  Even a 22" wire will work.  Just do not transmit.  If you can not get the hiss to go away with the squelch adjustment, there is another squelch control on top of the radio accessible through a hole hidden under round aluminum foil.

Joe

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