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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:27 am    Post subject: PLBs Reply with quote

Just read the article on the Medford OR couple who have been lost 3 days in the mountains. They had cell phones but no signal.

If they had a PLB they would have been rescued within a few hours of their problem. Don't depend on a cell phone for communication in the event of a forced landing. If you have a 406Mh ELT fine but if not a $300 Fastfind 210 will ensure SAR activity shortly after activation. The Fastfind locates your position with a WAAS GPS and then transmits your position digitally to geosynchronous satellite over the Pacific or Atlantic; The distress message is then transmitted to Suitland MD where SAR headquarters activates local 911 responders. The PLB will operate at -20C or optionally at -40C. It can also be used on car trips, ATV adventures etc. It would be horrible to survive a forced landing and die of exposure waiting for SAR to find the aircraft or you.

Whether flying the Glastar or the RV10 or driving the Van or rental car, I carry a Fastfind PLB. http://www.rei.com/product/791972
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:52 am    Post subject: PLBs Reply with quote

This is the one I have; the original from 2003?

http://www.boatbandit.com/mcmurdopains-wessex-fastfind-plus-plb-w-gps-2716.aspx
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:46 am    Post subject: PLBs Reply with quote

The thing I like about PLB's is the cost..that and the fact my version of camping is a Holiday Inn without a bar...I want to be rescued!!.Sportys listed a basic one for 399. The 406 ELT's use the same technology don't they? So how come they are 1000 bucks?Rick SkedN246RS
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Just = read the=20 article on the Medford OR couple who have been lost 3 days in the = mountains.=20 They had cell phones but no signal.
 
If they had a PLB = they would=20 have been rescued within a few hours of their problem. Don't depend on a = cell=20 phone for communication in the event of a forced landing. If you have a = 406Mh=20 ELT fine but if not a $300 Fastfind 210 will ensure SAR activity shortly = after=20 activation. The Fastfind locates your position with a WAAS GPS and then=20 transmits your position digitally to geosynchronous satellite over the = Pacific=20 or Atlantic; The distress message is then transmitted to Suitland MD = where SAR=20 headquarters activates local 911 responders. The PLB will operate at = -20C or=20 optionally at -40C. It can also be used on car trips, ATV adventures = etc. It=20 would be horrible to survive a forced landing and die of exposure = waiting for=20 SAR to find the aircraft or you.
 
Whether flying the Glastar or the RV10 or driving = the Van or=20 rental car, I carry a Fastfind PLB. http://www.rei.com/product/791= 972
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:54 am    Post subject: PLBs Reply with quote

ELT has a pricey G switch AND approvals from about 6 govt/miltary
agencies. ACK took over a year to get approval after all paperwork was
submitted. Like getting a complex STC approved. Ridiculous considering
original ELT only needed FAA and FCC approval.

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The thing I like about PLB's is the cost..that and the fact my version
of camping is a Holiday Inn without a bar...I want to be
rescued!!.Sportys listed a basic one for 399. The 406 ELT's use the same
technology don't they? So how come they are 1000 bucks?

Rick Sked
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 9:00 am    Post subject: PLBs Reply with quote

The SAR agencies can decode the ID and determine if the source is a PLB (hiker) or ELT (aircraft) or EPIRB (ship/boat). This decoding provides the agencies with a choice of responses.
If a pilot crashes and sets off his PLB will he receive a response time equal to setting off his ELT?

My ELT decision was based upon a theoretical crash with my wife. One mental sceanario was 121.5Mhz and the other a 406Mhz. Looking at the short time to rescue with the 406 and the uncertain time to rescue with the 121 the thought of Sara sitting in the dirt beside a ball of aluminum and posing the question - "After spending $140K plus on this airplane you could not spend another $500 to protect our lives?" - would haunt me for years. I purchased the 406.

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ELT has a pricey G switch AND approvals from about 6 govt/miltary agencies. ACK took over a year to get approval after all paperwork was submitted. Like getting a complex STC approved. Ridiculous considering original ELT only needed FAA and FCC approval.

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The thing I like about PLB's is the cost..that and the fact my version of camping is a Holiday Inn without a bar...I want to be rescued!!.Sportys listed a basic one for 399. The 406 ELT's use the same technology don't they? So how come they are 1000 bucks?

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