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DrHook

Joined: 06 Apr 2006
Posts: 13
Location: Knights Landing CA

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 8:19 am Post subject: The Certified LSA Pioneers that have gone before me

The Goal: 

Get all certificates that would be required to get my Sports Pilot Licence Cerificate, during the Re-build of the Firestar project at hand.



OK so, I am a new member of EAA as of yesterday. So thats a start.

And there is no dought, I am in the right place, Here to get the advice to do that.



So for you guys that have done this and or are doing this. Can you steer me in the most practicle, "affordable", easiest way to do this.

I have been reading up on, and will continue to read-up on the things required.

So, yes I could search the archives and probably find the answers I need here.

but hoping some of you guys got the answers and advice at your fingertips.

So I suppose, what I need to help me is, the order in which to do things and what exactly to do.

EAA has this Homebuilt Certification Kit, Here are the details for this kit.



March 30, 2006 - EAA's new Amateur-Built Aircraft Certification Kit includes everything you need to register and certificate a new experimental amateur-built aircraft. The 15-page, step-by-step Certification Guide walks you through the entire process-from getting an N number to the aircraft inspection-and provides samples of how to complete each required form. 

EAA staff member and Amateur-Built DAR Joe Norris, who reviewed all of the materials included in the kit, commented, "Whenever I inspect an aircraft for certification, the paperwork is what causes delays more often than anything on the aircraft. This guide will make a homebuilder's inspection go a lot easier."



The certification kit also includes all FAA forms, Experimental sticker (in black), dataplate, and a convenient placard decal sheet. Cost for EAA members is $12.99 plus shipping. The kit is also available for non-members for $19.99 plus shipping. To order, call EAA Membership Services at 800/JOIN EAA (564-6322), or visit http://shop.eaa.org. 

 

      

For $12.99 I think this will help me out, big time.

So here is an aricle that caught my I as well. Its from an older Plane & Pilot magazine.



Traditional kit planes regulations required that the owner and/or builder construct a minimum of 51% of the aircraft, which would take hundreds of hours of labor. The new sport experimental rules, on the other hand, only call for the builder to participate and sign off that he or she has played a part in making the aircraft airworthy. The builder also needs to attend formal training classes to earn a repairman’s certificate for minor maintenance, but the whole process is much less time-consuming than it has been in the past.



EAA has these Repairmen LSA Workshops.

Will I have to take this $300.00 16hr class?



So there it is, any help, advice and guidance would be Mucho appriciated,

Thanks Chris

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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 10:45 am Post subject: The Certified LSA Pioneers that have gone before me

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		  >get my Sports Pilot Licence Cerificate

>Can you steer me in the most practicle, "affordable", easiest way to do

this.
	




Dear Chris:



I am no expert, however last month's Aero Connections magazine (the magazine

produced by ASC), has an article called something like "Sport Pilot on a

Shoestring." It appears to provide some good getting started advice with

lots of websites where you can explore further.



Good luck!



-Ken Fackler

Kolb Mark II / A722KWF

Rochester MI



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herbgh

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 145

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:10 pm Post subject: The Certified LSA Pioneers that have gone before me

On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 09:19:46 -0700 "DrHook" <csgale(at)yahoo.com> writes:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 The Goal: 

 Get all certificates that would be required to get my Sports Pilot 

 Licence Cerificate, during the Re-build of the Firestar project at 

 hand.

 

 OK so, I am a new member of EAA as of yesterday. So thats a start.

 And there is no dought, I am in the right place, Here to get the 

 advice to do that.

 

 So for you guys that have done this and or are doing this. Can you 

 steer me in the most practicle, "affordable", easiest way to do 

 this.

 I have been reading up on, and will continue to read-up on the 

 things required.

 So, yes I could search the archives and probably find the answers I 

 need here.

 but hoping some of you guys got the answers and advice at your 

 fingertips.

 So I suppose, what I need to help me is, the order in which to do 

 things and what exactly to do.

 EAA has this Homebuilt Certification Kit, Here are the details for 

 this kit.

 

 March 30, 2006 - EAA's new Amateur-Built Aircraft Certification Kit 

 includes everything you need to register and certificate a new 

 experimental amateur-built aircraft. The 15-page, step-by-step 

 Certification Guide walks you through the entire process-from 

 getting an N number to the aircraft inspection-and provides samples 

 of how to complete each required form. 

 EAA staff member and Amateur-Built DAR Joe Norris, who reviewed all 

 of the materials included in the kit, commented, "Whenever I inspect 

 an aircraft for certification, the paperwork is what causes delays 

 more often than anything on the aircraft. This guide will make a 

 homebuilder's inspection go a lot easier."

 

 The certification kit also includes all FAA forms, Experimental 

 sticker (in black), dataplate, and a convenient placard decal sheet. 

 Cost for EAA members is $12.99 plus shipping. The kit is also 

 available for non-members for $19.99 plus shipping. To order, call 

 EAA Membership Services at 800/JOIN EAA (564-6322), or visit 

 http://shop.eaa.org. 

  

       

 For $12.99 I think this will help me out, big time.

 So here is an aricle that caught my I as well. Its from an older 

 Plane & Pilot magazine.

 

 Traditional kit planes regulations required that the owner and/or 

 builder construct a minimum of 51% of the aircraft, which would take 

 hundreds of hours of labor. The new sport experimental rules, on the 

 other hand, only call for the builder to participate and sign off 

 that he or she has played a part in making the aircraft airworthy. 

 The builder also needs to attend formal training classes to earn a 

 repairmans certificate for minor maintenance, but the whole process 

 is much less time-consuming than it has been in the past.

 

 EAA has these Repairmen LSA Workshops.

 Will I have to take this $300.00 16hr class?

 

 So there it is, any help, advice and guidance would be Mucho 

 appriciated,

 Thanks Chris

 

 --------

 Kolb Firestar owner, Rebuild-Recover job at hand.

 

 

 

 

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John Hauck

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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:30 pm Post subject: The Certified LSA Pioneers that have gone before me

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Dave Pelletier

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 100
Location: Prescott, Arizona

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 4:00 pm Post subject: The Certified LSA Pioneers that have gone before me

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		   So for you guys that have done this and or are doing this. Can you steer 

 me in the most practicle, "affordable", easiest way to do this.


	


Chris,



Ok, I'm in the process and here's what its cost me so far:



-- $12.99 for EAA's Conversion Guide "How to register and certify your 

Ultralight as an Experimental Light-Sport Aircraft."



-- $90.00 to take the Sport Pilot Knowledge Test



-- $5.00 to FAA for my "N" Number



-- $450 for the Airworthiness Certificate.



I still have to do the Following:



-- $??? Arizona registration



-- $??? Arizona Sales Tax



-- $??? Practical Test



-- $300.00 16 Hour Maintenance Course



 	  Quote: 	
		   March 30, 2006 - EAA's new Amateur-Built Aircraft Certification Kit 

 includes everything you need to register and certificate a new 

 experimental amateur-built aircraft. The 15-page, step-by-step 

 Certification Guide walks you through the entire process-from getting an N 

 number to the aircraft inspection-and provides samples of how to complete 

 each required form.


	


This is a very helpful publication and worthwhile.  But the one I have is 

NOT Experimental Amateur-Built but IS Experimental Light-Sport --- there is 

a difference.



"Whenever I inspect an aircraft for certification, the paperwork is what 

causes delays more often than anything on the aircraft. This guide will make 

a homebuilder's inspection go a lot easier."



I can agree with this.  The DAR who inspected my MK III just sent me a 

corrected copy of the FAA form 8130-6 (Airworthiness Certificate) because 

"it had a typo."  The form he sent me to sign has four mistakes in it.



 	  Quote: 	
		   The certification kit also includes all FAA forms, Experimental sticker 

 (in black), dataplate, and a convenient placard decal sheet. Cost for EAA 

 members is $12.99 plus shipping. The kit is also available for non-members 

 for $19.99 plus shipping. To order, call EAA Membership Services at 

 800/JOIN EAA (564-6322), or visit http://shop.eaa.org.


	


 	  Quote: 	
		   EAA has these Repairmen LSA Workshops.   Will I have to take this $300.00 

 16hr class?


	


As I understand it, if you register Experimental Amateur Built, you don't 

have to take the class.  But If you register Experimental LSA, you need to 

take the class to sign off inspections and do maintenance.  But the 

advantage is that the next owner can also take the class and not have to use 

an A & E guy to sign off stuff.  Check with EAA to be sure of this.



Good Luck,

AzDave



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Roger Lee

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1464
Location: Tucson, Az.

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 8:33 pm Post subject: Re: The Certified LSA Pioneers that have gone before me

Hi Dave,



Az. Registration $25 every year

Az. Sales tax,  none

Practicle test $350,  Terry Brandt in Buckeye, Az.

16 hr. course through EAA was $300 + food, travel. Took mine in Riverside, Ca.



All done.

Piece of cake. One day at a time.



Take Care,

Roger Lee

Tucson, Az.



 see you next month in MV



p.s.

Give me a call if you need info about any of the certs.

520-574-1080

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