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John Hauck



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:49 am    Post subject: New 912 TBO Reply with quote

Morning Gang:

I sent this one a couple hours ago. Must have gotten lost in cyber space.

Rotax has announced new TBO, by serial number, the the 912 series engines:

Eric Tucker, the founder of Rotax Flying Club and developer of training
programs for Rotax Aircraft Engines, said "The upgrading of components
within the engine, and the significant improvements within the past few
years, shows a commitment and faith in the light aircraft community. With
LSA category aircraft becoming more accepted worldwide the increase in TBO
helps owners and operators using Rotax Aircraft Engines get the best value
in propulsion. 20 years ago this year Rotax put the 4 stroke 9 series on
the market, with a 600 hour TBO, today the 2000 mark is a milestone that is
welcome and deserved."

http://www.rotax-owner.com/SI_TB_Info/ServiceB/SB-912-057-UL.pdf

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:20 am    Post subject: New 912 TBO Reply with quote

Strange that the 912 gearbox has a 2k hr tbo while similar gearboxes
on 2 strokers have much less! Herb
At 10:48 AM 12/15/2009, you wrote:
Quote:


Morning Gang:

I sent this one a couple hours ago. Must have gotten lost in cyber space.

Rotax has announced new TBO, by serial number, the the 912 series engines:

Eric Tucker, the founder of Rotax Flying Club and developer of training
programs for Rotax Aircraft Engines, said "The upgrading of components
within the engine, and the significant improvements within the past few
years, shows a commitment and faith in the light aircraft community. With
LSA category aircraft becoming more accepted worldwide the increase in TBO
helps owners and operators using Rotax Aircraft Engines get the best value
in propulsion. 20 years ago this year Rotax put the 4 stroke 9 series on
the market, with a 600 hour TBO, today the 2000 mark is a milestone that is
welcome and deserved."

http://www.rotax-owner.com/SI_TB_Info/ServiceB/SB-912-057-UL.pdf

john h

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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:33 am    Post subject: New 912 TBO Reply with quote

> Strange that the 912 gearbox has a 2k hr tbo while similar gearboxes
Quote:
on 2 strokers have much less! Herb


Don't know why, for sure.

-Pressure lube

-Much heavier contruction.

???

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:45 am    Post subject: New 912 TBO Reply with quote

It may be a matter of harmonics or some other difference in stress imposed by 2 stroke vs four cylinders.
The 912 runs pretty smooth.
BB

On 15, Dec 2009, at 12:15 PM, Herb wrote:

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Strange that the 912 gearbox has a 2k hr tbo while similar gearboxes on 2 strokers have much less! Herb


At 10:48 AM 12/15/2009, you wrote:
>
>
> Morning Gang:
>
> I sent this one a couple hours ago. Must have gotten lost in cyber space.
>
> Rotax has announced new TBO, by serial number, the the 912 series engines:
>
> Eric Tucker, the founder of Rotax Flying Club and developer of training
> programs for Rotax Aircraft Engines, said "The upgrading of components
> within the engine, and the significant improvements within the past few
> years, shows a commitment and faith in the light aircraft community. With
> LSA category aircraft becoming more accepted worldwide the increase in TBO
> helps owners and operators using Rotax Aircraft Engines get the best value
> in propulsion. 20 years ago this year Rotax put the 4 stroke 9 series on
> the market, with a 600 hour TBO, today the 2000 mark is a milestone that is
> welcome and deserved."
>
>
>
> http://www.rotax-owner.com/SI_TB_Info/ServiceB/SB-912-057-UL.pdf
>
> john h
>
> mkIII
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> 12/15/09 07:52:00







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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:48 pm    Post subject: Re: New 912 TBO Reply with quote

It is harmonics/vibration and different internal parts in the 912 are stronger.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:02 pm    Post subject: New 912 TBO Reply with quote

Hauck wrote: << Rotax has announced new TBO, by serial number, for 912 series engines: >>

John / All –

In reading the referenced Rotax Service Bulletin, I notice that the 912UL is clearly absent from the TBO extension discussion.

They mention the 912A and 912F (certificated engines) and the 912S are given TBO extensions, assuming that all the specified Service Bulletins have been accomplished.

You think this means that the 912UL is still stuck at 1200 hours TBO?

Dennis Kirby
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Sandia Park, NM
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:23 pm    Post subject: New 912 TBO Reply with quote

Dennis K/Gang:

Depends on what your Serial Number is. Could be 1,000; 1,500; or 2,000 hours.

TBO is spelled out in this reference for the uncertified versions:

http://www.rotax-owner.com/SI_TB_Info/ServiceB/SB-912-057-UL.pdf

My feelings are, TBO's do not affect me and my engine because we are uncertified, experimental/homebuilt. I am going to run my engine until I get ready to tear it down. The TBO is primarily for Certified Engines. They must comply with it.

TBO doesn't mean the engine is going to last until the time designated. It is a figure Rotax has gleaned from the hours us users are putting on our engines. We are the operational testers for Rotax.

My own personal feelings about TBO's.

john h
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[quote] You think this means that the 912UL is still stuck at 1200 hours TBO?


Dennis Kirby

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