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Speedy11(at)aol.com
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 Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 4:59 pm Post subject: Battery leakage |
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Regardless, many of us ARE having leakage problems. I discovered my high dollar LED flishlight (used frequently and batteries changed often) "welded" closed due to battery leakage just one week ago. I couldn't get the batteries out and threw away the flashlight. I had changed from ever using Duracells again and the faulty batteries this time were Everready.
Someone mentioned last week on this forum that the problem might not be with a particular brand, but with alkalines in general. I'm beginning to think there may be some validity to that argument. Or perhaps the problem is caused by the "cheaper" manufacturing process. Perhaps the Chinese cannot make leak resistant batteries as well as Americans or Mexicans.
Or perhaps the fault lies in the design of the battery. With the correct design, I suspect quality batteries could be built anywhere.
Thoughts?
Stan Sutterfield
| Quote: | If you dig around in my alkaline cell stock that
ranges from AAAA to D cells, you'll find a host of
different brands. I've not suffered a severe battery
leakage event in so long I don't recall the last time.
At the same time, we go through batteries pretty
quickly. No cell sits around in a seldom used
device.
The fact that some of us here on the
list have suffered a leakage event with a particular
brand is not a definitive study of the propensity
of that brand for failure. If say 90% of all cells
presently occupying the battery box of our favorite
accessories are Duracells . . . it's axiomatic that
the propensity of any failures will be in Duracells.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 5:46 pm Post subject: Battery leakage |
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At 16:59 12/24/2009, you wrote:
| Quote: | | Someone mentioned last week on this forum that the problem might not be with a particular brand, but with alkalines in general. I'm beginning to think there may be some validity to that argument. Or perhaps the problem is caused by the "cheaper" manufacturing process. Perhaps the Chinese cannot make leak resistant batteries as well as Americans or Mexicans. |
Just to add yet additional data, as many certainly could do, I've just had to toss a number of unused HF "Thunderbolt Magnum" AAA's dated 08-1010 due to leakage. Origin, China.
I also ordered on special, from an unremembered source, a large quantity (~200) of Rayovac "Maximum PLUS" AAA's and have had to dispose of nearly 20% due to leakage prior to any even being put into service; these with a Dec 2011 expiration date. This -special- turned out to be not-so-special. Origin, USA.
These failure rates prompt consideration on just how I may want to manage batteries in devices...
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steve(at)stevegregory.us
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| Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 7:02 pm Post subject: Battery leakage |
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I had more than just a leak. I had two Duracell’s “explode” in two different smoke detectors at my house. I was sitting quietly reading, and it sounded like a .22 pistol went off. Couldn’t figure out where the loud pop came from. It happened the next day as well. I finally found the source (no red power light on the detector). The bottoms of the batteries were blown out. Went online and Goggled “exploding Duracell batteries”. I found a lot of articles. No more Duracell’s for me. And if I’m not mistaken, Safeway Select brand alkaline batteries are made by Duracell as well.
Steve Gregory
925-323-6987 (cell)
steve(at)stevegregory.us
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Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 4:59 PM
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Subject: Re: Battery leakage
Regardless, many of us ARE having leakage problems. I discovered my high dollar LED flishlight (used frequently and batteries changed often) "welded" closed due to battery leakage just one week ago. I couldn't get the batteries out and threw away the flashlight. I had changed from ever using Duracells again and the faulty batteries this time were Everready.
Someone mentioned last week on this forum that the problem might not be with a particular brand, but with alkalines in general. I'm beginning to think there may be some validity to that argument. Or perhaps the problem is caused by the "cheaper" manufacturing process. Perhaps the Chinese cannot make leak resistant batteries as well as Americans or Mexicans.
Or perhaps the fault lies in the design of the battery. With the correct design, I suspect quality batteries could be built anywhere.
Thoughts?
Stan Sutterfield
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If you dig around in my alkaline cell stock that
ranges from AAAA to D cells, you'll find a host of
different brands. I've not suffered a severe battery
leakage event in so long I don't recall the last time.
At the same time, we go through batteries pretty
quickly. No cell sits around in a seldom used
device.
The fact that some of us here on the
list have suffered a leakage event with a particular
brand is not a definitive study of the propensity
of that brand for failure. If say 90% of all cells
presently occupying the battery box of our favorite
accessories are Duracells . . . it's axiomatic that
the propensity of any failures will be in Duracells. |
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jindoguy(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 7:12 pm Post subject: Battery leakage |
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I almost hate to write this testimonial but it's true, nonetheless.Several years ago, Bob did a test of various batteries and the best value in that test were the ones from Dollar General. I started using them and have ever since. I've never had one leak, I've had a very few of less than stellar capacity, but in general they have been of outstanding quality and at the best price around, 25 cents apiece for AA and AAA in packs of 20. I do change out batteries fairly often in these two sizes, but I've had the same experience with their C and D's that have been in flashlights for up to two years with no leakage.
Wish I could say the same for the Duracells I have to run in my ELT's. I have a very corroded, near new unit on the shelf that had one year old batteries that with the exception of the occasional test were unused.
I have no explanation for my experience with Dollar General batteries other than I don't leave dead batteries in devices.
Rick Girard
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 6:59 PM, <Speedy11(at)aol.com (Speedy11(at)aol.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Regardless, many of us ARE having leakage problems. I discovered my high dollar LED flishlight (used frequently and batteries changed often) "welded" closed due to battery leakage just one week ago. I couldn't get the batteries out and threw away the flashlight. I had changed from ever using Duracells again and the faulty batteries this time were Everready.
Someone mentioned last week on this forum that the problem might not be with a particular brand, but with alkalines in general. I'm beginning to think there may be some validity to that argument. Or perhaps the problem is caused by the "cheaper" manufacturing process. Perhaps the Chinese cannot make leak resistant batteries as well as Americans or Mexicans.
Or perhaps the fault lies in the design of the battery. With the correct design, I suspect quality batteries could be built anywhere.
Thoughts?
Stan Sutterfield
| Quote: | If you dig around in my alkaline cell stock that
ranges from AAAA to D cells, you'll find a host of
different brands. I've not suffered a severe battery
leakage event in so long I don't recall the last time.
At the same time, we go through batteries pretty
quickly. No cell sits around in a seldom used
device.
The fact that some of us here on the
list have suffered a leakage event with a particular
brand is not a definitive study of the propensity
of that brand for failure. If say 90% of all cells
presently occupying the battery box of our favorite
accessories are Duracells . . . it's axiomatic that
the propensity of any failures will be in Duracells.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 4:14 am Post subject: Battery leakage |
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Stan. I Agree with you 100 %. I too have witnessed a rise in leakage in the last few years and some episodes have been within a short period of time since battery replacement or new start up. I am convinced there is a systematic degrading of battery construction throughout the industry. I have had Duracells, Everready's and other brands fail.
Ben Haas
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From: Speedy11(at)aol.com
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Battery leakage
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 19:59:08 EST
Regardless, many of us ARE having leakage problems. I discovered my high dollar LED flishlight (used frequently and batteries changed often) "welded" closed due to battery leakage just one week ago. I couldn't get the batteries out and threw away the flashlight. I had changed from ever using Duracells again and the faulty batteries this time were Everready.
Someone mentioned last week on this forum that the problem might not be with a particular brand, but with alkalines in general. I'm beginning to think there may be some validity to that argument. Or perhaps the problem is caused by the "cheaper" manufacturing process. Perhaps the Chinese cannot make leak resistant batteries as well as Americans or Mexicans.
Or perhaps the fault lies in the design of the battery. With the correct design, I suspect quality batteries could be built anywhere.
Thoughts?
Stan Sutterfield
| Quote: | If you dig around in my alkaline cell stock that
ranges from AAAA to D cells, you'll find a host of
different brands. I've not suffered a severe battery
leakage event in so long I don't recall the last time.
At the same time, we go through batteries pretty
quickly. No cell sits around in a seldom used
device.
The fact that some of us here on the
list have suffered a leakage event with a particular
brand is not a definitive study of the propensity
of that brand for failure. If say 90% of all cells
presently occupying the battery box of our favorite
accessories are Duracells . . . it's axiomatic that
the propensity of any failures will be in Duracells.
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