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Tim Olson
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 Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:25 pm Post subject: Warming up in the -10 |
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Well, I got a flight in New Year's Eve to end of the 2009
flying season, and then, since it warmed up today (it
started out as -18F this a.m. when I woke up at
9am, and got up to 1F this afternoon!) I decided to
go fly again.
I'll just tell y'all again, the RV-10 heater makes it
real comfy in the cabin, even with OAT on the ground
at 1F, and even into the way negatives at altitude.
I have the standard Vetterman's exhaust with the 2
heat muffs and no coatings or anything else, and there's
way more heat available than what I need. On our trip
home from Florida, we spent literally HOURS with OAT's
of zero, and the kids in the back would complain at
times that we should turn the heat down.
Also, thought I'd attach a picture of one of my favorite
little projects of the fall, now that I can comment on
how it's working out.
This fall I wanted to prepare so my chemicals at the
hangar (windshield cleaners, hand cleaners, and all
that good stuff) wouldn't freeze and get ruined. I had
previously used a wall mounted cabinet with foam glued
to the inside, but it still stayed pretty cold. So
this fall I advertized on Craigs list looking for a
junk mini-fridge. I ripped out the guts, and put in an
outlet trio and mounted 2 15W mini-base lamp sockets in
the freezer area (so it heats that metal plate), and
stuck a 15W Reptile terrarium heating pad to the floor.
The heating pad was a waste, but it does warm things.
Today, with OAT's that went from the -20 to +1 range,
I used my Harbor Freight infared thermometer and checked
the inside temp. It's over 100F on that metal plate,
but about 85F on the walls inside the fridge. So,
plenty of nice warm chemicals to use. I used 2 bulbs
so that there would be redundancy, because one should
easily keep it from freezing. So far I've burned out
one bulb, so having 2 was a good idea. Cheap, and
works great.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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aerosport1
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| Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:22 pm Post subject: Warming up in the -10 |
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Tim made himself a easy bake oven.
Tim looks like it is working good.
Great idea
Geoff
Sent from my iPhone Geoff
On Jan 2, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Well, I got a flight in New Year's Eve to end of the 2009
flying season, and then, since it warmed up today (it
started out as -18F this a.m. when I woke up at
9am, and got up to 1F this afternoon!) I decided to
go fly again.
I'll just tell y'all again, the RV-10 heater makes it
real comfy in the cabin, even with OAT on the ground
at 1F, and even into the way negatives at altitude.
I have the standard Vetterman's exhaust with the 2
heat muffs and no coatings or anything else, and there's
way more heat available than what I need. On our trip
home from Florida, we spent literally HOURS with OAT's
of zero, and the kids in the back would complain at
times that we should turn the heat down.
Also, thought I'd attach a picture of one of my favorite
little projects of the fall, now that I can comment on
how it's working out.
This fall I wanted to prepare so my chemicals at the
hangar (windshield cleaners, hand cleaners, and all
that good stuff) wouldn't freeze and get ruined. I had
previously used a wall mounted cabinet with foam glued
to the inside, but it still stayed pretty cold. So
this fall I advertized on Craigs list looking for a
junk mini-fridge. I ripped out the guts, and put in an
outlet trio and mounted 2 15W mini-base lamp sockets in
the freezer area (so it heats that metal plate), and
stuck a 15W Reptile terrarium heating pad to the floor.
The heating pad was a waste, but it does warm things.
Today, with OAT's that went from the -20 to +1 range,
I used my Harbor Freight infared thermometer and checked
the inside temp. It's over 100F on that metal plate,
but about 85F on the walls inside the fridge. So,
plenty of nice warm chemicals to use. I used 2 bulbs
so that there would be redundancy, because one should
easily keep it from freezing. So far I've burned out
one bulb, so having 2 was a good idea. Cheap, and
works great.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
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luis(at)cristabelle.net
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| Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 5:39 pm Post subject: Warming up in the -10 |
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Tim,
Low temperatures is the last thing I worry about here in South
Florida. But thought I should chime in. I didn't know low temps can
ruin cleaning supplies and the like. What happens if it gets TOO hot
in there. Any possiblilty of something, melting, leaking, mixing, or
much worse, start a fire. I know this is a long shot but you never
know. 15w seems so small but......Ever thought of adding a
thermostat? If and when it warms up, you don't have to worry about
running to the hanger to shut the lights off. Any how, just looking
at the safety aspect of this nifty cleaner warmer.
Nice posts and -10 by the way..
Luis
aka Manny on VAF
On Jan 2, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
| Quote: | Well, I got a flight in New Year's Eve to end of the 2009
flying season, and then, since it warmed up today (it
started out as -18F this a.m. when I woke up at
9am, and got up to 1F this afternoon!) I decided to
go fly again.
I'll just tell y'all again, the RV-10 heater makes it
real comfy in the cabin, even with OAT on the ground
at 1F, and even into the way negatives at altitude.
I have the standard Vetterman's exhaust with the 2
heat muffs and no coatings or anything else, and there's
way more heat available than what I need. On our trip
home from Florida, we spent literally HOURS with OAT's
of zero, and the kids in the back would complain at
times that we should turn the heat down.
Also, thought I'd attach a picture of one of my favorite
little projects of the fall, now that I can comment on
how it's working out.
This fall I wanted to prepare so my chemicals at the
hangar (windshield cleaners, hand cleaners, and all
that good stuff) wouldn't freeze and get ruined. I had
previously used a wall mounted cabinet with foam glued
to the inside, but it still stayed pretty cold. So
this fall I advertized on Craigs list looking for a
junk mini-fridge. I ripped out the guts, and put in an
outlet trio and mounted 2 15W mini-base lamp sockets in
the freezer area (so it heats that metal plate), and
stuck a 15W Reptile terrarium heating pad to the floor.
The heating pad was a waste, but it does warm things.
Today, with OAT's that went from the -20 to +1 range,
I used my Harbor Freight infared thermometer and checked
the inside temp. It's over 100F on that metal plate,
but about 85F on the walls inside the fridge. So,
plenty of nice warm chemicals to use. I used 2 bulbs
so that there would be redundancy, because one should
easily keep it from freezing. So far I've burned out
one bulb, so having 2 was a good idea. Cheap, and
works great.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
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Tim Olson
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| Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:43 pm Post subject: Warming up in the -10 |
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Good point, but I covered that in warm day tests. The top plate gets
to about 120F but the walls about 100....which is pretty tame
considering it's that hot in Arizona hangars many days. Also, I don't
let anything get right up to the warm metal of the freezer where those
temps are. So nothing in there gets dangerously warm as the average
temp in the center may be more like 80-95 year round. A thermostat
wouldn't be a bad idea but would add cost....and even then I'd keep it
at 75 or so if I could....so it's not that much hotter. I also don't
keep any highly dangerous things in there.
It sure is nice to have nice warm liquids around though.....especially
the spray waxes and hand cleaners.
Tim
On Jan 2, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Luis <luis(at)cristabelle.net> wrote:
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Tim,
Low temperatures is the last thing I worry about here in South
Florida. But thought I should chime in. I didn't know low temps
can ruin cleaning supplies and the like. What happens if it gets
TOO hot in there. Any possiblilty of something, melting, leaking,
mixing, or much worse, start a fire. I know this is a long shot but
you never know. 15w seems so small but......Ever thought of adding
a thermostat? If and when it warms up, you don't have to worry
about running to the hanger to shut the lights off. Any how, just
looking at the safety aspect of this nifty cleaner warmer.
Nice posts and -10 by the way..
Luis
aka Manny on VAF
On Jan 2, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
> Well, I got a flight in New Year's Eve to end of the 2009
> flying season, and then, since it warmed up today (it
> started out as -18F this a.m. when I woke up at
> 9am, and got up to 1F this afternoon!) I decided to
> go fly again.
>
> I'll just tell y'all again, the RV-10 heater makes it
> real comfy in the cabin, even with OAT on the ground
> at 1F, and even into the way negatives at altitude.
> I have the standard Vetterman's exhaust with the 2
> heat muffs and no coatings or anything else, and there's
> way more heat available than what I need. On our trip
> home from Florida, we spent literally HOURS with OAT's
> of zero, and the kids in the back would complain at
> times that we should turn the heat down.
>
> Also, thought I'd attach a picture of one of my favorite
> little projects of the fall, now that I can comment on
> how it's working out.
>
> This fall I wanted to prepare so my chemicals at the
> hangar (windshield cleaners, hand cleaners, and all
> that good stuff) wouldn't freeze and get ruined. I had
> previously used a wall mounted cabinet with foam glued
> to the inside, but it still stayed pretty cold. So
> this fall I advertized on Craigs list looking for a
> junk mini-fridge. I ripped out the guts, and put in an
> outlet trio and mounted 2 15W mini-base lamp sockets in
> the freezer area (so it heats that metal plate), and
> stuck a 15W Reptile terrarium heating pad to the floor.
> The heating pad was a waste, but it does warm things.
> Today, with OAT's that went from the -20 to +1 range,
> I used my Harbor Freight infared thermometer and checked
> the inside temp. It's over 100F on that metal plate,
> but about 85F on the walls inside the fridge. So,
> plenty of nice warm chemicals to use. I used 2 bulbs
> so that there would be redundancy, because one should
> easily keep it from freezing. So far I've burned out
> one bulb, so having 2 was a good idea. Cheap, and
> works great.
>
> --
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
> <Chem_Keeper.jpg>
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bhassel
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| Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:59 pm Post subject: Re: Warming up in the -10 |
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On the dark side (in the composite world) we wire our lights (heater) to an AC thermostat on the inside. I tend to use a higher watt bulb in the winter than the summer but this helps maintain the temps I'm looking for on Epoxies in my unheated garage.
Bob Hassel
Santa Fe, NM
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| Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:44 pm Post subject: Warming up in the -10 |
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Great idea, Tim. As far as temp control at soggy/foggy KWVI goes, we started using electric blankets for some of our larger composite parts. Keeps 'em nice and toasty all night long, and not as nerve wracking as the infra-red heat lamps we used to use.
You know, you could add a $15 thermostat to your chem locker and set it at the ideal temp. I think McMaster PN 17395K93 would do it.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
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Ron B.
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| Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 3:32 pm Post subject: Re: Warming up in the -10 |
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I can't believe you let your 10 get that cold?
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