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Geoff Heap

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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Location: Lindenwold, New Jersey

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:01 am Post subject: Com'on Guys. What ELT's are you installing?

I'm looking at the AMERI-KING AK-451 ELT at the moment and yes, as homebuilders of  planes with more than one seat, we need an ELT.

What have you guys bought....Geoff

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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:44 am Post subject: Com'on Guys. What ELT's are you installing?

I installed the AK451. Looks nice, have not used it yet. 



-John



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 I'm looking at the AMERI-KING AK-451 ELT at the moment and yes, as homebuilders of  planes with more than one seat, we need an ELT.

 What have you guys bought....Geoff





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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:44 am Post subject: Com'on Guys. What ELT's are you installing?

I installed the Ameri-King AK-450.  But, now that Canada requires the new 406.025 MHz ELT's, I suppose I will be buying another one before I start international flights.  I have heard that AmeriKing makes a 406.025 ELT that is direct drop-in replacement for the AK-450, so you can use the same installation, just a different unit.

   

 John

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I'm looking at the AMERI-KING AK-451 ELT at the moment and yes, as homebuilders of  planes with more than one seat, we need an ELT.

What have you guys bought....Geoff





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craig(at)craigandjean.com
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:56 am Post subject: Com'on Guys. What ELT's are you installing?

I have an Artex ME406. I haven't crashed yet so it is not fully tested.



Spruce is now offering a 406 MHz unit with an internal GPS. This reduces the

diameter of the search area from 1-3 nm to under 300 ft.



SPRUCE 406 ELT W/ INTERNAL GPS	11-08053	$1360



http://www.elt406.net/faq.htm



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dougsnash

Joined: 14 Apr 2008
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:57 am Post subject: Com'on Guys. What ELT's are you installing?

Um, correct me if I'm wrong but I think Canada backed away from that one.  I think the rule reads that if you don't have a 406 ELT, you have to have a placard warning your passengers.



I could be wrong though so double check for yourself.



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NW Ontario, Canada



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 I installed the Ameri-King AK-450. 

 But, now that Canada requires the new 406.025 MHz ELT's,

 I suppose I will be buying another one before I start

 international flights.  I have heard that AmeriKing makes a

 406.025 ELT that is direct drop-in replacement for the

 AK-450, so you can use the same installation, just a

 different unit.

 

  

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bobkat

Joined: 07 Sep 2008
Posts: 143
Location: Bismarck, ND

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:08 pm Post subject: Com'on Guys. What ELT's are you installing?

I have the Ameriking 406 mhz ELT.  I hope I never have to test it!   It will 

interface with any GPS, though it requires some wiring to do so.   Prices 

for the 406 ELT's are gradually coming down.  Most also transmit on 121.5 as 

well.



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Geoff Heap

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 266
Location: Lindenwold, New Jersey

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:39 am Post subject: Re: Com'on Guys. What ELT's are you installing?

Votes are coming in.

Ameri-king seems to be in the lead but what models have you purchased.

The 450 is 121MHz and therefore pointless.

All 451's are 406MHz

The 451-2 is a little under $1000. It has no GPS and is accurate to 1-2 kilometers.

the 451-? with GPS is at least twice the price. However I don't think it actually has a GPS unit inside it. Reading about it I see that they offer an interface only for the extra cost.

The only GPS I can find where they actually state that THERE IS AN ACTUAL GPS INSIDE. NO NEED FOR AN INTERFACE HERE is the one craig mentioned. Aircraft spruce 406 ELT W/ INTERNAL GPS 11-08053 $1360.

So Craig. your Artex ME406 is listed at $1949. can you throw some light on this? what do you get for that much. Is it just the interface to connect to your  panel mount GPS.

I did call Ameri-king and was told that the 451-2 ($764) has no GPS and no interface.

 Unless someone corrects me it seems like my choice is between the 451-2 with no GPS and accuracy of 1-2 kilometers OR the 406 ELT W/ INTERNAL GPS 11-08053 $1360 from spruce.

BTW the "ELT" in the last sentence is the brand name of the unit. "Emerging Lifesaving Technologies"

bobkat

Joined: 07 Sep 2008
Posts: 143
Location: Bismarck, ND

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:30 am Post subject: Com'on Guys. What ELT's are you installing?

The Ameriking is the cheapest, which is why I bought it.  I'd love to have a 

GPS already included with it, but at the time these weren't available. 

Maybe they can develop a retrofit!   Having flown S & R in the CAP even the 

non GPS 406 ELT gives tremendous more accuracy than the 121.5. and really 

narrows the focus of a search  though it takes a little more time to lock in 

then the GPS ones.   That, plus a 406 PLB, a SPOT, and a cell phone 

hopefully will suffice, not that I ever want to test any of them!   Never 

want to see my BRS deployed either!



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sonar1@cox.net

Joined: 02 Oct 2007
Posts: 55
Location: Santa Barbara, Ca

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:39 am Post subject: Re: Com'on Guys. What ELT's are you installing?

I got my airtex ME 406 with a whip antenna for less than a thousand. Don't know why Aircraft Spruce is charging so much. Installed easily. .....Fred....N9701

craig(at)craigandjean.com
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:50 am Post subject: Com'on Guys. What ELT's are you installing?

Actually there are many versions of the Artex ME406 package. The price

partly depends on what antenna is included. For slow airplanes like ours

whip is fine and that kit only costs $875:



ME406, Spruce p/n 11-03492, Artex ME406 ELT w/ whip antenna. Programmed for

US registered aircraft. $875.00 



Also there is now a cheap(ish) add-on to connect your existing GPS NMEA

output to the ME406:



ARTEX ME-232 NAV INTERFACE	11-08036	$250.00



-- Craig



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Geoff Heap

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 266
Location: Lindenwold, New Jersey

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:57 am Post subject: Re: Com'on Guys. What ELT's are you installing?

There are 2 Fred. The me406 elt and the me406 hm elt. the HM is twice the price at $1949.

Well thanks for the feedback guys. I still don't know what I'll get but I know now what each will do.

It's between the 451-2 at $764 and the ELT406GPS (with GPS inside) at $1360........Geoff

Geoff Heap

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 266
Location: Lindenwold, New Jersey

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:09 pm Post subject: Re: Com'on Guys. What ELT's are you installing?

OK i just called ARTEX

The most expensive ($1950) HM models are for helicopters Duh

The $1450 models are the same as the $875 model. we're paying (at)600 extra for the antenna.

The ME-232 interface, according to the tech guy I just spoke to, is not in production yet. maybe mid year. ASSCO has none in stock(makes sense)

The other interface (NMEA-0183 protocol) is expected at ASSCO next week)

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