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bw12345(at)sbcglobal.net
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 Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:57 pm Post subject: Ram Air |
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I have a KitFox classic 4 with a 2200.Is it necessary to have Ram air or can the air filter draw from inside the cowl attached directly to carb? I am aware the vacuum hose has to be attached to the air filter.I tried the Jabiru factory filter, Pete has been great, but there is not enough room to mount the ram air filter box.
BOB
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| Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 4:27 pm Post subject: Ram Air |
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I have a model 4 -1200 clasic with the jabiru 2200 and I use air from inside the cowl and have no problems. Over 400 hrs in ten years and its fine. Tex
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Clive J
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| Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:14 am Post subject: Ram Air |
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The only issue with cowl air as I understand it is loss of power if the air is warmed by the engine, can't imagine it's much.
The Jab engine being a clean one should mean your filter with last Ok.
Or is there something else I forgot?
From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tex Mantell
Sent: 11 January 2010 00:24
To: jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Ram Air
I have a model 4 -1200 clasic with the jabiru 2200 and I use air from inside the cowl and have no problems. Over 400 hrs in ten years and its fine. Tex
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Lynn Matteson
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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Location: Grass Lake, Michigan
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| Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 5:35 am Post subject: Ram Air |
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I have a model IV with a 2200 Jabiru, and I found room to install the
air box as delivered by Pete back in 2005. You might have a larger
air box, as they have changed them over the years. With my Rotec TBI,
when I pull on the "carb heat" the engine actually picks up 40-80
rpm, and the fuel flow meter show a gain in fuel used by about .2-.4
GPH. This could be caused by my particular installation.
Be aware that the Sonex-type planes use only an air filter, and no
air box with their Jabiru installs, so it must work.
If you DO go with the air cleaner only and no air box, how will you
deal with the carb heat issue?
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 834.5 hrs
Countdown to 1000 hrs~167 to go
Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection
Status: flying (and learning)
On Jan 11, 2010, at 2:57 AM, James, Clive R wrote:
[quote] The only issue with cowl air as I understand it is loss of power if
the air is warmed by the engine, can't imagine it's much.
The Jab engine being a clean one should mean your filter with last Ok.
Or is there something else I forgot?
From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-
jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tex Mantell
Sent: 11 January 2010 00:24
To: jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Ram Air
I have a model 4 -1200 clasic with the jabiru 2200 and I use air
from inside the cowl and have no problems. Over 400 hrs in ten
years and its fine. Tex
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bw12345(at)sbcglobal.net
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| Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:41 am Post subject: Ram Air |
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I have the electric carb heat availible from Pete at Jabiru
BOB
--- On Mon, 1/11/10, Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net> wrote:
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From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
Subject: Re: Ram Air
To: jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Monday, January 11, 2010, 8:32 AM
--> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net (lynnmatt(at)jps.net)>
I have a model IV with a 2200 Jabiru, and I found room to install the air box as delivered by Pete back in 2005. You might have a larger air box, as they have changed them over the years. With my Rotec TBI, when I pull on the "carb heat" the engine actually picks up 40-80 rpm, and the fuel flow meter show a gain in fuel used by about .2-.4 GPH. This could be caused by my particular installation.
Be aware that the Sonex-type planes use only an air filter, and no air box with their Jabiru installs, so it must work.
If you DO go with the air cleaner only and no air box, how will you deal with the carb heat issue?
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 834.5 hrs
Countdown to 1000 hrs~167 to go
Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection
Status: flying (and learning)
On Jan 11, 2010, at 2:57 AM, James, Clive R wrote:
[quote] The only issue with cowl air as I understand it is loss of power if the air is warmed by the engine, can't imagine it's much.
The Jab engine being a clean one should mean your filter with last Ok.
Or is there something else I forgot?
From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-jabiruengine-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Tex Mantell
Sent: 11 January 2010 00:24
To: jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com (jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Ram Air
I have a model 4 -1200 clasic with the jabiru 2200 and I use air from inside the cowl and have no problems. Over 400 hrs in ten years and its fine. Tex
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Lynn Matteson
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan
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| Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:51 am Post subject: Ram Air |
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Right, right, right.....I keep forgetting about that....sorry.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 834.5 hrs
Countdown to 1000 hrs~167 to go
Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection
Status: flying (and learning)
On Jan 11, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Robert Rivard wrote:
| Quote: | I have the electric carb heat availible from Pete at Jabiru
BOB
--- On Mon, 1/11/10, Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net> wrote:
If you DO go with the air cleaner only and no air box, how will you
deal with the carb heat issue?
Lynn Matteson
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