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Arty Trost

Joined: 25 May 2006
Posts: 205
Location: Sandy, Oregon

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:45 pm Post subject: MV date decided yet?

John H -I think you were asking folks which weekend would work best for the MV fly-in this year. Have you had any responses? Has a decision been made? I'm hoping to be there - and want to be sure my calendar is clear for which-ever weekend is decided on. (Right now it makes no difference.)

Arty Trost

Maxair Drifter

Sandy, Oregon



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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
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Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:51 pm Post subject: MV date decided yet?

Hi Arty/Gang:

  

 The 2010 Unplanned/Unorgnized Kolb Flyin Monument  Valley, Utah will be held from Friday, 21 May until Sunday, 23 May  2010.

  

 Normally, we get there sometime on Thursday.   If you want to get there a week early, that's ok too.  If you want to stay  late, that's ok, but most of us will be heading out for other places, and home,  on Sunday morning.  I'll be flying to the Rock House, 7 miles south of  Burns Junction, Oregon, along with anybody else that wants to tag along.   Last year there were four of us that flew from MV, and joined up with three more  Kolbs at Larry and Karen Cottrell's.  Needless to say, we had a  grand and exciting time.  Amazing at the varied inclement weather  conditions that can be handed out by Mother Nature in the SE corner of  Oregon.  On the other hand, she can also hand out some beautiful flying  days to take advantage of that part of our great country.

  

 Glad to hear Arty is going to join us again, even  though she flies one of those other ultralights.  

  

 BTW:  Everyone is welcome at our flyin, no  matter what you fly or how you get there.  Remember though, some of us fly  as much as 20 hours to get there, so if we aren't ready to jump back in the air  and fly circles around MV, it is because we are getting old and lazy, and still  have 50 or more hours to fly before we get back home.

  

 I am looking forward to this year's flyin.   Hope to see all of you there.

  

 john h

 mkIII

  

  

 



 [quote]                             I think you were asking folks which weekend would work best for the          MV fly-in this year. Have you had any responses? Has a decision been          made? I'm hoping to be there - and want to be sure my calendar is clear          for which-ever weekend is decided on. (Right now it makes no          difference.)

         



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John Hauck
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lcottrell

Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1494
Location: Jordan Valley, Or

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:56 pm Post subject: MV date decided yet?

I want to add that if anyone is so inclined, they are also  welcome at the Rock House afterward. There is plenty of space for planes and  people.

 Larry Cottrell

  

  

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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
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Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 7:20 pm Post subject: MV date decided yet?

Will the ice be melted at the Rock House by  May?

  

 I am going to have to take an ice pick with me to  Gantt International and chip my mkIII out of the hanger if I am going to  attempt aviation tomorrow.  If it stays in the 30's, I ain't gonna  go.

  

 john h

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lcottrell

Joined: 29 May 2006
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Location: Jordan Valley, Or

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:56 pm Post subject: MV date decided yet?

I will guarantee that the ice will be melted and the wind  no more than 6 to 10 down the runway!

 Larry

  

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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 4:47 am Post subject: MV date decided yet?

sounds like either a retired car salesman or investment advisor....BB

nice here at zero and calm.  Dog's out hunting squirrels at 7:00AM

I'll be with him after some coffee

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George Alexander

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 245
Location: SW Florida

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:53 am Post subject: Re: MV date decided yet?

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The 2010 Unplanned/Unorganized Kolb Flyin Monument  Valley, Utah will be held from Friday, 21 May until Sunday, 23 May  2010.

  

	




With the discussions concerning this year's Monument Valley gathering, it was a good time to update the material from past years.  Take a look.... might be the incentive to go if you hadn't planned on it.....



Added the miscellaneous material received from a couple of people for 2006.  Not very organized (goes with the event).



Also added material that John Hauck sent me for 2009.  A little better organized.



If any of you have material from any of the years and want it added, send it on to me.  Pictures with words to go with them would be great.



And for those of you that do make it this year, send the stuff and we'll put it up too.



Click on http://gtalexander.home.att.net and then "Monument Valley Gatherings"

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lcottrell

Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1494
Location: Jordan Valley, Or

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:42 am Post subject: MV date decided yet?

Perhaps a bit of an explanation is due here. I had kind of  expected an outburst from John Bickham. When the boys were coming in last year,  they were still operating on reflexes honed in the South. The wind was up a bit,  even for here. My airstrip is a bit under a lot of the airflow that generally  blows from the west. I had a "wind meter" that we used on the Railroad that was  supposed to determine when the wind was blowing too hard for safe welding out in  the field. Having no reason to doubt that the wind gage might be less accurate  than my "WAG". When they called for landing suggestions I checked the wind, and  found that the meter showed 6 to 10 mph and it was blowing right down the  runway. They of course will swear that it was nothing less than a "Gale force  wind". In the future we used my other wind meter to check. It is a 1/4 pound  rock dropped from a height of 6 feet.

 Larry (honest as the day is long) Cottrell

  

  

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John Hauck

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Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:46 am Post subject: MV date decided yet?

> With the discussions concerning this year's Monument Valley gathering, it 

was a good time to update the material from past years.  Take a look.... 

might be the incentive to go if you hadn't planned on it.....

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 Added the miscellaneous material received from a couple of people for 

 2006.  Not very organized (goes with the event).


	


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		   Click on http://gtalexander.home.att.net and then "Monument Valley 

 Gatherings"



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George/Gang:



A special pat on the back for the time and hard work you volunteer to do to 

keep Kolb history.



If you all have captions for the photos George has posted to his web site, 

please send them to him.  I am the laziest of that bunch, but through 

George's goading, I have gotten captions for last year's MV Flyin, and will 

have some more soon for the 2006 MV Flyin.  Those captions are as important 

as the photos.



john h

mkIII - 11F with a warming trend on the way.

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Titus, Alabama

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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:56 am Post subject: MV date decided yet?

Perhaps a bit of an explanation is due here. I had kind of expected an outburst from John Bickham. When the boys were coming in last year, they were still operating on reflexes honed in the South. The wind was up a bit, even for here. My airstrip is a bit under a lot of the airflow that generally blows from the west. I had a "wind meter" that we used on the Railroad that was supposed to determine when the wind was blowing too hard for safe welding out in the field. Having no reason to doubt that the wind gage might be less accurate than my "WAG". When they called for landing suggestions I checked the wind, and found that the meter showed 6 to 10 mph and it was blowing right down the runway. They of course will swear that it was nothing less than a "Gale force wind". In the future we used my other wind meter to check. It is a 1/4 pound rock dropped from a height of 6 feet.  

Larry (honest as the day is long) Cottrell  

   

Larry,,,,,,   have you noticed how short the days have been the last few weeks????????????????????    LOL     

   

Boyd   

   

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:58 am Post subject: MV date decided yet?

John

Happy 2010, and I hope your 'warming trend' has arrived. Nothing  

colder than  a warm  state that gets a sudden  cold snap.

I've near-fruz in Pensacola more than  once. I feel sorry for the  

many people, and kids, who don't have warm clothes or any insulaion  

in their houses.

But you have thoughts of MV10 to keep you warm!

Fair winds,

Russ

John Bickham

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 170
Location: St. Francisville, LA

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 6:06 am Post subject: Re: MV date decided yet?

Don't want to let Larry down due to lack of outburst!!!



Sorry, been a little busy.  Past weekend in the teen's not good.  Petro-chemical plants not designed to handle that down here.  Found out fiber-optics can be freeze affected!!  News to a lot a folks here.



I learned a lot on that day. First, that is probably the last time you'll hear me say, "I'll go first!!!"



Second, if you see dust being picked up 1000' feet in the air 6-8 miles away, chances are pretty slim the wind is "6-10 mph right down the runway".



Third,  your "wind shadow" from the raised terrain on the west side of the runway is lower than the height of the barbed wire fence on the north end of the runway.  I'm guessing somewhere close to 6-8"!!!!

If you remember, you mentioned the "wind shadow" as we approached with a somewhat doubtful tone on the radio.



Fourth, you got a pretty good first step! As I touched down and the crosswind started to overpower the rudder causing a swerve, you demonstrated an amazing initial evasive move.



You know I'm just kidding.  It was the trip of a lifetime for me!  Your and Ms Karen's hospitality was much appreciated and hope to have the chance to return the favor someday.



The following is one of my favorite Kolb video's.  Give folks some appreciation of what we are talking about.  The wind was not this bad when we landed, but it sure wasn't "6-10, right down the runway"!!!

Pay attention to the power setting on approach and the the ground roll.  For perspective, I'm guessing Larry's hangar is about 40 ft wide.  This is on the crosswind runway that is not readily visible to first time arrivals.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMYsdarPcnY&feature=channel



Also if some folks are interested in what last year's trip was like, you might find the blog I kept during trip interesting. 

http://kolbadventures.blogspot.com/

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John Bickham
Mark III-C w/ 912UL
St. Francisville, LA

I know many pilots and a few true aviators. There is a distinct difference that I have the greatest respect for.

lucien

Joined: 03 Jun 2007
Posts: 721
Location: santa fe, NM

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 6:37 am Post subject: Re: MV date decided yet?

I've also lost track of how many bazillion times I've watched this video too. Just goes to show you what our light airplanes are capable of when flown by expert pilots.



When I was ferrying my plane to NM from JD's place in NE, I had to put down about an hour into the first leg of the trip. The headwinds were so strong that my ground speed was cut in half (airspeed about 100mph, GS reduced to about 50 shortly after t/o). Had only about 3 hrs in the plane (it was definitely NOT being flown by an expert) and the place I chose to land (loup city, NE) was blowing 25G40 about 20degs to the right. Amazing I did no damage. I've had no desire to fly in conditions like that since tho I've come close just as a matter of circumstances.



You guys still amaze me with your endurance and flying skill and show what the Kolb is capable of.



WX is looking good this weekend for another trip, hopefully I won't have to put down in such winds....



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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:28 am Post subject: MV date decided yet?

> I learned a lot on that day. First, that is probably the last time you'll 

hear me say, "I'll go first!!!"

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John B/Gang:



Ya done good, John Boy!



You and Bruce C both got one Hell of an initiation that day.



I had forgotten about the big dust cloud until you reminded me.



My hands don't sweat often when I fly, especially when it is cold.  I had to 

wipe my hands on my Levis leg several times on final that day.



Glad I knew about the cross wind strip.  I probably would not have made a 

satisfactory landing on the main strip.



Looking forward to doing it again this year.



6 to 10 right down the runway.



john h

mkIII

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lcottrell

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Location: Jordan Valley, Or

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:52 am Post subject: MV date decided yet?

John, I hope this doesn't mean that you aren't coming this  year? Karen will be devastated or at least distressed. 

 Larry

  

  

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