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dewittw(at)earthlink.net
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:34 pm Post subject: Question on best use of buttons on stick grip

Fellow Grand Rapids customers:



 We are in the midst of trying to decide what functions to assign to the buttons on our CS-8 Aircraft Grips from Tosten Mfg. ( http://tostenmanufacturing.com/catalog/aircraft-grips/cs-8-aircraft-grip.html# ). In addition to a 4-way hat switch, this ambidextrous grip has two face buttons, an index button and a trigger switch.



 We, of course, will use the hat switch for the elevator and aileron trim. Initially, we thought of assigning the two face buttons (L and R) to the cowl flap (Open and Close). The trigger switch would be the Push To Talk and the index button "Acknowledge and turn checklist pages" for the VP-200.



 However, after receiving suggestions from fellow Subie engine users, it appears the cowl flap actuator does not deserve such a prominent position on the grip and would work fine on the panel. There are other possible uses for the two face buttons if we didn't assign them to the cowl flap. For instance:



 1. "Swap" button to allow the pilot to switch from the current Com to the other Com frequency. (Suggested by PS Engineering.)

 2. VFR button for GTX 327 transponder (Suggested by Garmin.)

 3. Remote Servo Disconnect/Pilot Controlled Steering button for our Trio Pro Pilot. (Strongly suggested by Trio.)



 Any of you have experience of upside or downside of assigning all these buttons?



 

 Dee Whittington



 

 DeWitt (Dee) Whittington

 406 N Mulberry St

 Richmond, VA 23220-3320

 (804) 358-4333 phone and fax

 SKYPE: hilltopkid

 GlaStar Sportsman 2+2 #7034, reserved N18TA

 Eggenfellner E6 Subaru 3.6L with 2.01 redrive

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sarg314(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:04 pm Post subject: Question on best use of buttons on stick grip

I used the extra buttons for comm radio flip-flop and transponder 'ident' button (I also have a GTX-327).Â  Not flying yet, so I can't really tell if these are very useful.



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Tom Sargent, RV-6A, final assembly.

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MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:36 pm Post subject: Question on best use of buttons on stick grip

I'm not flying either (RV10) but I'm using the 2 buttons for AP 

disconnect and freq flip flop.



The little button on the backside I'm using for ident.  Using it for 

squawking VFR would probably be equally useful since either function is 

used on average slightly less than once a flight.



I really like the Tosten grip.  Had some concerns about the 'fit and 

finish' appearance from the website picture but turns out it is a very 

nicely designed unit.  The swiveling ability seems like a winner too.  

Can't wait to fly it.



Bill "just finished wiring the stick last week" Watson

RV10 Durham NC



DeWitt Whittington wrote:

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		   Fellow Grand Rapids customers:



 We are in the midst of trying to decide what functions to assign to 

 the buttons on our CS-8 Aircraft Grips from Tosten Mfg. ( 

 http://tostenmanufacturing.com/catalog/aircraft-grips/cs-8-aircraft-grip.html# 

 ). In addition to a 4-way hat switch, this ambidextrous grip has two 

 face buttons, an index button and a trigger switch.



 We, of course, will use the hat switch for the elevator and aileron 

 trim. Initially, we thought of assigning the two face buttons (L and 

 R) to the cowl flap (Open and Close). The trigger switch would be the 

 Push To Talk and the index button "Acknowledge and turn checklist 

 pages" for the VP-200.



 However, after receiving suggestions from fellow Subie engine users, 

 it appears the cowl flap actuator does not deserve such a prominent 

 position on the grip and would work fine on the panel. There are other 

 possible uses for the two face buttons if we didn't assign them to the 

 cowl flap. For instance:



 1. "Swap" button to allow the pilot to switch from the current Com to 

 the other Com frequency. (Suggested by PS Engineering.)

 2. VFR button for GTX 327 transponder (Suggested by Garmin.)

 3. Remote Servo Disconnect/Pilot Controlled Steering button for our 

 Trio Pro Pilot. (Strongly suggested by Trio.)



 Any of you have experience of upside or downside of assigning all 

 these buttons?

 Dee Whittington



 DeWitt (Dee) Whittington

 406 N Mulberry St

 Richmond, VA 23220-3320

 (804) 358-4333 phone and fax

 SKYPE: hilltopkid

 GlaStar Sportsman 2+2 #7034, reserved N18TA

 Eggenfellner E6 Subaru 3.6L with 2.01 redrive

 dee.whittington(at)gmail.com



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pmather

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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:48 pm Post subject: Question on best use of buttons on stick grip

Dee

  

 I've got the two buttons as Com frequency switch  and Trio servo disconnect - never used them !

  

 Best regards

  

 Peter

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FisherPaulA(at)johndeere.
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:43 am Post subject: Question on best use of buttons on stick grip

I too have one of these grips and I like it a lot.  I’ve only got about 60 flight hours so far, but I’m happy with the switch selections:  

   

4 way hat switch – as you stated, aileron and elevator trim  

Trigger – Push to talk  

Left top button – Com1/Com2 swap (function of the audio panel)  

Right top button – Com1 active/standby frequency swap (SL-30)  

Index button – Trio Autopilot and altitude hold disconnect  

   

Obviously it depends on the kind of flying you do, but these have worked out well for me.   

   

Paul A. Fisher  

RV-7A N18PF (flying since August 2009)  

   

       

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Fellow Grand Rapids customers:

 

 We are in the midst of trying to decide what functions to assign to the buttons on our CS-8 Aircraft Grips from Tosten Mfg. ( http://tostenmanufacturing.com/catalog/aircraft-grips/cs-8-aircraft-grip.html# ). In addition to a 4-way hat switch, this ambidextrous grip has two face buttons, an index button and a trigger switch.

 

   

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dfritzj(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:24 am Post subject: Question on best use of buttons on stick grip

I have the same sticks in my Velocity (not flying yet) and plan to use one of them as a remote autopilot disconnect.  



I've flown many military aircraft and found a remote disconnect on the stick to be extremely useful when the glass starts to do something you'd rather it doesn't.  With the button on the stick you can both disconnect the autopilot and begin your manual correction with one action. YMMV



Dan



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Dennis Johnson

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Location: N. Calif.

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:26 am Post subject: Question on best use of buttons on stick grip

I've been flying three years with the same stick grip and I'm very happy  with it.  Here is how I have mine wired:

  

 Hat Switch:  Elevator and aileron trim

 Right Switch:  Radio frequency flip/flop

 Left Switch:  Chelton audio warnings mute 

 Index Switch:  Autopilot on/off

 Trigger:  Push to transmit on radio

  

 Some of the switches share a common ground, which reduced the versatility a  little.  I had to add a relay to control the Chelton mute because  merely connecting a pin to ground didn't work.  I bought my stick grip from  CH Products and the current one from Tosten appears to be similar.   

  

 A few times I've accidentally hit the frequency flip/flop  switch.  It would be nice if the left and right switches had ring  guards to make accidental activation less likely.  I certainly wouldn't  want anything on those two switches if accidental activation could jeopardize  safe flight.  

  

 Dennis  

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