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william(at)gbta.net
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 3:58 pm Post subject: Wing skin question

Page 16-2 step 5.  Wing skin joint detail.  I  kinda understand what it's asking me to do but does anybody have any pics of  exactly what it wants.  How is the best way to accomplish this  job?

  

 Thanks in advance,

 Bill

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ricksked(at)cox.net
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:44 am Post subject: Wing skin question

Bill,  

   

Are you talking about feathering the edges on the overlap? If so, I used a belt sander and finished it up with a vixen file. Sorry don’t have the plans in front to reference the page.  

   

Rick  

       

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Billy & Tami Britton

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william(at)gbta.net
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:51 am Post subject: Wing skin question

That’s exactly what I''m asking about.  Is it a  slow process or does the metal come off pretty quickly.  I have a belt  sander but I know how fast you can mess things up with it.  It's looking  like I'll probably just use a hand powered sander and see how that  goes.

  

  

 Thanks to all that have replied.

  

 Bill

  



  From: Rick (ricksked(at)cox.net) 

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Bill, 

  

Are  you talking about feathering the edges on the overlap? If so, I used a belt  sander and finished it up with a vixen file. Sorry don’t have the plans in front  to reference the page. 

  

Rick 

    

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Strasnuts

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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:04 am Post subject: Wing skin question

I set the two pieces close to the end of the table  and drew a reference line and used a 6 inch DA sander.  Worked well and  didn't take too much too fast.

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Kellym

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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:41 pm Post subject: Wing skin question

Are folks sanding the two mating surfaces, or the top, exposed surface? The plans seem to imply sanding the outer, exposed surfaces. I think I would prefer sanding the mating surfaces, then prime them.

 

 

 

 

 

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john(at)trollingers.com
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:27 pm Post subject: Wing skin question

i just skipped the step and the wing still looks great



On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com (kellym(at)aviating.com)> wrote:

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dlm46007(at)cox.net
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:42 pm Post subject: Wing skin question

I may be misunderstanding the question, but , in general, when  mating two skin sections, for example at the forward spar, a small gap (.020)  between the skins must be allowed. When riveting the skins the riveting process  will close he gap. If no gap is there the edges of the skins will form a ridge  that is visible by looking down the seam. The ridge can easily be felt  by running fingers along  or across the seam. Ridges are poor sheet metal  form.

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i just skipped the step and the wing still looks great

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davidsoutpost(at)comcast.
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:18 pm Post subject: Wing skin question

My plans stated this was an "optional step".  I elected to skip it and my wings look just fine.



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jrlark

Joined: 03 Jul 2009
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:35 pm Post subject: Wing skin question

Bill

  

 Get yourself a 5" random orbital sander to do the  feathering of that edge.  I have a lot of experience using them for  woodworking projects and they are an excellent sander, easy to control and won't  give you a nasty surprise.  I wouldn't go near a belt sander with aluminum  for anything....Rick

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MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 5:34 am Post subject: Wing skin question

Rick and Sandra Lark wrote:

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 Get yourself a 5" random orbital sander to do the feathering of that 

 edge.  I have a lot of experience using them for woodworking projects 

 and they are an excellent sander, easy to control and won't give you a 

 nasty surprise.  I wouldn't go near a belt sander with aluminum for 

 anything....Rick

That sounds right.  I'll have to get one of those.  I'm guessing it 
	


would work well on some of the fiberglass finishing (?).



I used a sanding disk on my die grinder for the skin.  It worked but was 

clearly the wrong tool for the job.



Bill Watson

Jim Berry

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 237
Location: Denver

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:46 am Post subject: Re: Wing skin question

Bill,



A dual action sander works even better than a random orbit sander for finishing fiberglass. A cheapie from Harbor Freight will do the job, or you can get a high dollar dual action form your local auto body supplier.



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