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dougsappllc(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:04 am Post subject: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve

Yes, Bill Blackwell offers this system as a kit.  Bill's Ph 623-703-1001



Doug



On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:50 AM,  <cjpilot710(at)aol.com (cjpilot710(at)aol.com)> wrote:

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   Bill Blackwell set this up for me years ago and I was either the first or second guy to get it.  The valve came off a Sikorsky CH-37 Mojave helicopter.  This was a monstrosity that had 2 W1820s mounted on each side.  "A flying transmission system built for failure".  These valves were used for the same purpose.  Evidently Bill picked these up from Davis-Monthum.     

   I don't remember if Bill ever set this up as a kit or not.

    

   Jim "Pappy" Goolsby

 

 

   

  

 

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david(at)mcgirt.net
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:34 am Post subject: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve

I agree with the oil shutoff.  I have the manual valve from Kimball Enterprises, it has the extra value of a switch that you can tie to your starter button.  If the oil is STILL shutoff, you cannot start..  I have proven this is important.. J  

   

http://www.jimkimballenterprises.com/web/m14p.php  

   

Does not matter who , just get one in my opinion..  

   

David McGirt  

Yak52 TW  

   

   

     

From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of doug sapp

 Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:04 PM

 To: yak-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve  

  

   

Yes, Bill Blackwell offers this system as a kit.  Bill's Ph 623-703-1001    

   

    

Doug    

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:50 AM, <cjpilot710(at)aol.com (cjpilot710(at)aol.com)> wrote:  

     

Bill Blackwell set this up for me years ago and I was either the first or second guy to get it.  The valve came off a Sikorsky CH-37 Mojave helicopter.  This was a monstrosity that had 2 W1820s mounted on each side.  "A flying transmission system built for failure".  These valves were used for the same purpose.  Evidently Bill picked these up from Davis-Monthum.      

   

    

I don't remember if Bill ever set this up as a kit or not.  

    

   

    

Jim "Pappy" Goolsby  

  

     

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terrycalloway(at)mac.com
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:48 am Post subject: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve

Kevin Kimball has a kit also. As I installed on my M14. 

His number is (407) 889-3451

Pumper



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On Jan 19, 2010, at 1:04 PM, doug sapp <dougsappllc(at)gmail.com (dougsappllc(at)gmail.com)> wrote:



[quote]Yes, Bill Blackwell offers this system as a kit.  Bill's Ph 623-703-1001



Doug



On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:50 AM,  <[url=mailto:cjpilot710(at)aol.com]cjpilot710(at)aol.com (cjpilot710(at)aol.com)[/url]> wrote:

 [quote]

 

   Bill Blackwell set this up for me years ago and I was either the first or second guy to get it.  The valve came off a Sikorsky CH-37 Mojave helicopter.  This was a monstrosity that had 2 W1820s mounted on each side.  "A flying transmission system built for failure".  These valves were used for the same purpose.  Evidently Bill picked these up from Davis-Monthum.     

   I don't remember if Bill ever set this up as a kit or not.

    

   Jim "Pappy" Goolsby

 

 

   

  

 

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wise(at)txc.net.au
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:58 pm Post subject: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve

G'Day Jim,

  

 Can you please send me Bill's email address  off-list.

  

 wise(at)txc.net.au (wise(at)txc.net.au)

  

 As I am in Australia it may be easier to  communicate via email.

  

 Thanks and cheers,

 Chris.

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cjpilot710(at)aol.com
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:50 pm Post subject: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve

Chris,

    

   I don't have that,  Maybe some else here on the list does?

    

   Jim "Pappy" Goolsby

   

 

  

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dougsappllc(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:09 pm Post subject: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve

Bill Blackwell,  bill(at)blackwellredstar.com (bill(at)blackwellredstar.com)



Doug



On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 4:47 PM,  <cjpilot710(at)aol.com (cjpilot710(at)aol.com)> wrote:

 [quote]

 

   

   Chris,

    

   I don't have that,  Maybe some else here on the list does?

    

   Jim "Pappy" Goolsby

   

 

  

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wise(at)txc.net.au
Guest

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:03 pm Post subject: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve

Thanks Doug,

  

 Kind regards,

 Chris.

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viperdoc(at)mindspring.co
Guest

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:03 pm Post subject: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve

Anyone have pictures of Doug’s system and Jim Kimbel’s system?  

Doc  

       

From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Wise

 Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:31 PM

 To: yak-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve  

  

  

     

Thanks Doug,  

    

   

    

Kind regards,  

    

Chris.  

  [quote]    

----- Original Message -----   

    

From: doug sapp (dougsappllc(at)gmail.com)   

    

To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)   

    

Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:39 AM  

    

Subject: Re: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve  

    

   

  

Bill Blackwell,  bill(at)blackwellredstar.com (bill(at)blackwellredstar.com)     

   

    

Doug    

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 4:47 PM, <cjpilot710(at)aol.com (cjpilot710(at)aol.com)> wrote:  

     

Chris,  

    

   

    

I don't have that,  Maybe some else here on the list does?  

    

   

    

Jim "Pappy" Goolsby  

    



 

    

    

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dsavarese0812(at)bellsout
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:05 am Post subject: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve

Look at item M14P-6 - http://www.jimkimballenterprises.com/web/m14p.php   Dave Jester recently installed the Kimball system on his 52TD.  He might  have some pictures of the installation.

 Dennis

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david(at)mcgirt.net
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:04 am Post subject: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve

Doc,  

   

  Here are some photos of my installation on a Yak 52 TW  

   

http://picasaweb.google.com/dmcgirt/OilShutoffYak52TW#  

   

David  

   

       

From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp M.D.

 Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 12:03 AM

 To: yak-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RE: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve  

  

  

   

Anyone have pictures of Doug’s system and Jim Kimbel’s system?  

Doc  

       

From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Wise

 Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:31 PM

 To: yak-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve  

  

  

     

Thanks Doug,  

    

   

    

Kind regards,  

    

Chris.  

  [quote]    

----- Original Message -----   

    

From: doug sapp (dougsappllc(at)gmail.com)   

    

To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)   

    

Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:39 AM  

    

Subject: Re: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve  

    

   

  

Bill Blackwell,  bill(at)blackwellredstar.com (bill(at)blackwellredstar.com)     

   

    

Doug    

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 4:47 PM, <cjpilot710(at)aol.com (cjpilot710(at)aol.com)> wrote:  

     

Chris,  

    

   

    

I don't have that,  Maybe some else here on the list does?  

    

   

    

Jim "Pappy" Goolsby  

    



 

    

    

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wdjester(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:33 pm Post subject: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve

Dennis is correct, partially.  I used Kimball cutoff valve but had an  aviation grade pump built for the sump.   I have pictures and will  post them when I can recover them from a computer in my hanger.    When I have my valve closed, the air start button will not operate because of a  micro switch set up.  The only way it the prop will turn is if the oil  shut off valve is open engaging the micro switch.  I have seen Girt's  photos and my set up is a bit different.   Works nicely and reduces  the oil from leaking out the exhaust, etc.  I notice little if  any oil on my belly after a flight now.  Oil loss/consumption is down as  well.   Girt, how you doing?

  

  

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david(at)mcgirt.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:55 pm Post subject: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve

The TW does not seem to have the same layout in some regards, so we had to make some interesting bends.. but I burn less than a quart an hour flying hard acro these days.. so I am pretty happy with the whole setup..  I plan on replacing the scavenger hose with something a little more rugged, but quite frankly, it works great.. lol  

   

Will see you at Waycross GoatBoy..  looking forward to flying more this year..  

   

David  

   

   

   

       

From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave "Goatboy" Jester

 Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 7:05 PM

 To: yak-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve  

  

  

     

Dennis is correct, partially.  I used Kimball cutoff valve but had an aviation grade pump built for the sump.   I have pictures and will post them when I can recover them from a computer in my hanger.   When I have my valve closed, the air start button will not operate because of a micro switch set up.  The only way it the prop will turn is if the oil shut off valve is open engaging the micro switch.  I have seen Girt's photos and my set up is a bit different.   Works nicely and reduces the oil from leaking out the exhaust, etc.  I notice little if any oil on my belly after a flight now.  Oil loss/consumption is down as well.   Girt, how you doing?  

    

   

    

   

    

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viperdoc(at)mindspring.co
Guest

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:31 pm Post subject: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve

David,  

Thanks for the URL.  

Doc  

       

From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McGirt

 Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 1:03 PM

 To: yak-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RE: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve  

  

  

   

Doc,  

   

  Here are some photos of my installation on a Yak 52 TW  

   

http://picasaweb.google.com/dmcgirt/OilShutoffYak52TW#  

   

David  

   

       

From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp M.D.

 Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 12:03 AM

 To: yak-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RE: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve  

  

  

   

Anyone have pictures of Doug’s system and Jim Kimbel’s system?  

Doc  

       

From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Wise

 Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:31 PM

 To: yak-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve  

  

  

     

Thanks Doug,  

    

   

    

Kind regards,  

    

Chris.  

  [quote]    

----- Original Message -----   

    

From: doug sapp (dougsappllc(at)gmail.com)   

    

To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)   

    

Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:39 AM  

    

Subject: Re: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve  

    

   

  

Bill Blackwell,  bill(at)blackwellredstar.com (bill(at)blackwellredstar.com)     

   

    

Doug    

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 4:47 PM, <cjpilot710(at)aol.com (cjpilot710(at)aol.com)> wrote:  

     

Chris,  

    

   

    

I don't have that,  Maybe some else here on the list does?  

    

   

    

Jim "Pappy" Goolsby  

    



 

    

    

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Dale

Joined: 30 May 2007
Posts: 178

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:32 pm Post subject: Re: M14 P problems oil shutoff valve

Yak 52 oil shut off

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