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Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:40 pm Post subject: Travel to Washington DC, Request for Experience and Recom |
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But keep in mind what Neal is describing is the inner ring of the SFRA which has significantly different rules and procedures. Manassas and a number of airports are still inside the SFRA but much easier to negotiate since they're in the outer ring.
Rick McBride
On Feb 18, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Bill Boyd wrote:
Quote: | Thanks - cured me of any desire to visit the Swamp by airplane. Just as I thought.
-Stormy
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Neal George <n8zg(at)mchsi.com (n8zg(at)mchsi.com)> wrote:
Quote: | --> RV-List message posted by: "Neal George" <n8zg(at)mchsi.com (n8zg(at)mchsi.com)>
Waaay too much trouble. Two IFR-rated pilots, both with credentials for all
three restricted airports in-hand, both active duty military (not that it
matters, but it's a data point). Going in on the required IFR flight plan
was simple enough, if you disregard the 'bonus' 80nm scenic tour southeast
of DC for no apparent reason. Since we were in a rental, the extra hour was
painful. Landed at Potomac and topped the tanks, filed IFR direct to
College Park - 8nm - and had to leave the ADIZ to the south, fly around the
east end, and back in from the north to land at College Park, all vectors.
Another unnecessary 100 miles, another hour on the rental Hobbs. College
Park was not what I'd call pleasant. Or friendly. When we tried to file
the next day to get out and go home, DHS swore up and down that we had no
clearance be there, demanded to know how we got there in the first place and
wouldn't let us leave - with sunset and a monster thunderstorm rolling in.
After nearly two hours of discussions, we finally got a clearance to leave
the restricted area. Just not worth the hassle or the threat.
I'd fly into Manassas and grab a cab to the Metro...
neal
--> RV-List message posted by: Larry Bowen <larry(at)bowenaero.com (larry(at)bowenaero.com)>
Why not? Sounds like you are prepared, so ...
On 2/18/10, Neal George <n8zg(at)mchsi.com (n8zg(at)mchsi.com)> wrote:
> Alan -
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> I've had good experiences at Manassas and Potomac.
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> I have the appropriate paperwork and approvals, but I'll never voluntarily
> penetrate the ADIZ again.
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> Neal
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