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Roger Lee
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 Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:44 pm Post subject: Rotax update school |
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Hi All,
Remember when you read this, Don't shoot the messenger!
I had to go too.
Back from the first Rotax update school in the nation at CPS in California. Here are some interesting items.
If you have to attend a Rotax update school don't bother studying like I did because nothing on the three test had anything to do with the specs and was taught in the refresher class. So be a good listener. Three 10 question test and you have to get at least 8 correct on each. There is a general test, a service test and a line maint. test. It is an all day class and all lecture. Here is the big item I learned.
The update class does not re-certify you for heavy maint. You have to take the heavy maint 3 day class all over every 2 years for the heavy re-certification. The reason for this is darn few people ever do the heavy maint, but when it is needed then it is indispensable. Each Rotax mechanic will have to take a refresher update class to continue to work on a Rotax engine if he wants the heavy certification. Now before anyone goes off on this, remember that a regular A&P or A/I has to have a refresher class every two years also and if that A&P doesn't work for over 6 months he is technically not certified any longer. So the SLSA industry is really no different than the GA side and they are trying to make sure everyone stays safe because we fly to the same places and mix with the same people around the world even if we fly SLSA. The FAA, Rotax and Jabiru are trying to make sure the appropriate people work on SLSA engines. Remember that no where in an A&P school did the GA A&P get any Rotax or Jabiru specific training as he did Continental or Lycoming, not to mention many GA A&P's worked under someone for years to get their knowledge after getting their A&P license.
So what this means is that anyone working on an SLSA no matter what their title will have to attend a Rotax school and everyone will have to attend the update class every two years or you will loose that right to work on a Rotax. Don't flip out on Rotax because Jabiru has the same training. You will be limited to what you can work on depending on what level of class you take, i.e. service, Line maint or Heavy maint.. For the FD CT guys the manual says you can do an engine inspection if you follow the Rotax manual and the Rotax manual says you can do an inspection with just the service class, but you can not repair or replace engine components with only the service level class. You can do oil and plugs and a few other things for those who are worried.
The problem here is that we as an LSA group around the nation haven't done as good a job as we could have when it comes to policing ourselves and doing the right thing when maint was required. Some of the problems have been people that think they don't have to follow any bodies rules, but most have been educational issues. This forum has done a good job keeping people up to date on this subject. There have been a few problems. I did here while in class one GA A&P that signed off on an SLSA without the training had his license suspend for 1 year and another A&P was fined $3K. A&P's or mechanics will usually always get fined more than an owner because the FAA holds them to a higher knowledge standard. Mechanic's went to school and are supposed to keep up better and have the training to know better.
To put this in the right frame of mind Rotax, Jabiru and the FAA are trying to keep the LSA aircraft from having more than their fair share of maint issues and crashes and trying to raise the education level for everyone.
The only thing that has changed here in all this was that Rotax wants people to take the Heavy maint course again for that certification every two years. Every thing else about who can work on an SLSA is the same as it always has been.
Just a idea,
If you don't want to go to Rotax school and you love your GA A&P then pay his way to a Rotax school then he'll be able to do it all.
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Bear Creek Aviation
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| Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:36 am Post subject: Re: Rotax update school |
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Roger,
Did you find the renewal class useful or just a block filler? Also how much was it?
Terry Gardner
LSRM AP PP WS
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Roger Lee
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| Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:20 am Post subject: Re: Rotax update school |
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Hi Terry,
The one day update focuses on all the changes in the manuals and goes over the SB's. I think everyone got different things out of the class. I found it useful because it covered things not normally covered in Rotax school, not to mention it was required and I have to have it. It is $300. I am going back in two weeks to do the Heavy maint class that I need. You need the heavy class if you are going to rebuild carbs or work on gearboxes. FAA and Rotax are starting to enforce the rules. I would not be an A&P and do a Rotax engine any more if I didn't have the school or the update to be current.
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