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 Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:04 pm Post subject: Annuals |
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Gary,
Any interesting annuals to regale us with? It's windy/snowing here in PA, so no going to the airport and flying.
Bruce Smith
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GrummanDude
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| Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:13 pm Post subject: Annuals |
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Hi Bruce,
Funny you should ask that.
A couple of years ago I got a 75 Tiger that needed an annual. It's a pretty TIger. Interior is largely original. Nice paint. The owner told me that after his prop strike the previous year, he had the bottom of the engine rebuilt. He told me that the Top overhaul was done the previous year. I asked how he got the prop strike.
"Well, it's my fault really. I was landing at Sutter County airport and I was a little fast. I slammed on the brakes and tried to stop. I blew out both tires and skidded until I over ran the runway and ended up in a ditch about 50 yds past the end of the runway." He continued, "The insurance company wanted to total the plane. I'd only had it for six months. It's my first plane. So, I told them I wanted it rebuilt."
And he did. With the insurance money, he got the plane painted, added the LoPresti nose bowl, Lopresti landing light, donkey dick Power Flow, and a Sensenich prop.
Then, he told me the story of buying the plane from New Zealand, having it shipped to the U.S. and having it reassembled here.
As I looked around the plane, I noticed that nearly every panel had rivets in them. The cylinder bases were all rusty. There was a big fuel stain on the bottom of the right wing. The forward inboard access cover on the left wing was leaking. Someone had installed the LoPresti landing light and made clearance behind it by cutting a 4" diameter hole in the baffle. The upper cowling was debonding. In place of a breather tube, there was a 3/4" hose from the engine sticking out the bottom of the cowling. It did, however, have a notch cut in it to imitate the breather tube. The instrument panel had been cut all the way through the bottom of the avionics stack so a Garmin 196 could be installed there. "It came from New Zealand that way." There is really too much to tell here in one sitting.
I asked about the leaky right wing. He said, and I quote, "I've spent $10,000 over the last 4 years trying to fix this the leak. Leave it. No use throwing good money after bad." This annual, he asked me to reseal the leaky access cover. While tearing the access cover away from the high adhesion fuel tank sealant, it became clear that the access cover was leaking because the retaining ring was debonding. I was able to lift the ring up high enough to force sealant under the ring and then rivet the ring in place. We'll see. The inboard wing tank section on the left wing has had a scabbed in patch on the inner section (between the first two ribs) The tank is leaking at the seam. Both wings need to be reskinned.
Bottom line is, this guy is a Doctor, has a Columbia 350 to fly, and isn't all that interested in flying the Tiger. He was trying to sell the plane for a while. Asking $50,000. I told him that realistically, this 1500 TTSN airplane was worth about $25,000.
If you know of anyone who wants a Tiger project, let me know.
Gary
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haveblue1(at)mac.com
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| Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:52 pm Post subject: Annuals |
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Gary,
The last part says it all. .."spent $10,000 over the last 4 years trying to fix this the leak. Leave it." This plane is a disaster waiting to occur. I wonder what kind of maintenance he has done on his Columbia?
On Feb 26, 2010, at 3:12 PM, teamgrumman(at)aol.com (teamgrumman(at)aol.com) wrote:
[quote]Hi Bruce,
Funny you should ask that.
A couple of years ago I got a 75 Tiger that needed an annual. It's a pretty TIger. Interior is largely original. Nice paint. The owner told me that after his prop strike the previous year, he had the bottom of the engine rebuilt. He told me that the Top overhaul was done the previous year. I asked how he got the prop strike.
"Well, it's my fault really. I was landing at Sutter County airport and I was a little fast. I slammed on the brakes and tried to stop. I blew out both tires and skidded until I over ran the runway and ended up in a ditch about 50 yds past the end of the runway." He continued, "The insurance company wanted to total the plane. I'd only had it for six months. It's my first plane. So, I told them I wanted it rebuilt."
And he did. With the insurance money, he got the plane painted, added the LoPresti nose bowl, Lopresti landing light, donkey dick Power Flow, and a Sensenich prop.
Then, he told me the story of buying the plane from New Zealand, having it shipped to the U.S. and having it reassembled here.
As I looked around the plane, I noticed that nearly every panel had rivets in them. The cylinder bases were all rusty. There was a big fuel stain on the bottom of the right wing. The forward inboard access cover on the left wing was leaking. Someone had installed the LoPresti landing light and made clearance behind it by cutting a 4" diameter hole in the baffle. The upper cowling was debonding. In place of a breather tube, there was a 3/4" hose from the engine sticking out the bottom of the cowling. It did, however, have a notch cut in it to imitate the breather tube. The instrument panel had been cut all the way through the bottom of the avionics stack so a Garmin 196 could be installed there. "It came from New Zealand that way." There is really too much to tell here in one sitting.
I asked about the leaky right wing. He said, and I quote, "I've spent $10,000 over the last 4 years trying to fix this the leak. Leave it. No use throwing good money after bad." This annual, he asked me to reseal the leaky access cover. While tearing the access cover away from the high adhesion fuel tank sealant, it became clear that the access cover was leaking because the retaining ring was debonding. I was able to lift the ring up high enough to force sealant under the ring and then rivet the ring in place. We'll see. The inboard wing tank section on the left wing has had a scabbed in patch on the inner section (between the first two ribs) The tank is leaking at the seam. Both wings need to be reskinned.
Bottom line is, this guy is a Doctor, has a Columbia 350 to fly, and isn't all that interested in flying the Tiger. He was trying to sell the plane for a while. Asking $50,000. I told him that realistically, this 1500 TTSN airplane was worth about $25,000.
If you know of anyone who wants a Tiger project, let me know.
Gary
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