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miyer2u

Joined: 19 Nov 2009
Posts: 41
Location: Oregon

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:25 am Post subject: Performance of a Bose headset on a Kolb (Rotax engines)

Dear Kolbers,

 

I wanted to know your views on the performance of a Bose Headset on Rotax engines in case anyone has used it.

 

I presently fly with a Lightspeed XC and it performs good both on the Kolb and GA aircraft, but if the Bose is really quiet, I was planning to upgrade. Any feedback is appreciated.

 

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Thanks,

 

Mahesh Iyer

 

Kolb FS-2,

 

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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:41 am Post subject: Performance of a Bose headset on a Kolb (Rotax engines)

They may be the perfect headset but I could build a whole airplane for what a pair of them cost.Wait until the chinese copy them for $25.

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On 26, Feb 2010, at 1:22 PM, Mahesh Iyer wrote:

[quote]Dear Kolbers, 

I wanted to know your views on the performance of a Bose Headset on Rotax engines in case anyone has used it. 

I presently fly with a Lightspeed XC and it performs good both on the Kolb and GA aircraft, but if the Bose is really quiet, I was planning to upgrade. Any feedback is appreciated. 

  

Thanks, 

Mahesh Iyer 

Kolb FS-2, 

Oregon. 

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Ralph B

Joined: 14 Apr 2007
Posts: 367
Location: Mound Minnesota

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:46 pm Post subject: Re: Performance of a Bose headset on a Kolb (Rotax engines)

A friend of mine uses the Bose headsets in his 912 Titan. I flew beside him to Oshkosh last summer and thought the Bose wasn't quite what I expected. It was hard to understand him at times. I use a DRE Communications headset that is passive and he understands me all the time. I bought a pair of Lightspeed 20xl's and they are terrible in the Kolbra. The background noise is awful. If I bought another pair, I would go with the Telex Digital 50's. I have heard good reports about them in the 912 series engines. I notice DRE has come out with some later models that have ANR. Maybe that would be the way to go.



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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:09 pm Post subject: Performance of a Bose headset on a Kolb (Rotax engines)

I notice DRE has come out with some later models that have ANR. Maybe that 

would be the way to go.



Ralph



Ralph/Gang:



That is the DRE6000 ENR.  Other day I referred to it as the ANR, but I 

wouldn't know the difference between the two designations.



I've been flying with mine for several years.  I have two sets.  The older 

set works better than the new set, to me, but I have David Clark high dollar 

silicone ear seals.  The new set has cheaper DC silicone seals.



Biggest problem with any ANR or passive headset is making sure it has a good 

seal around your ears.  Eye glass stems and base ball hats contribute to air 

leaks which reduce the performance of the head set.



john hauck

mkIII

Titus, Alabama

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tclongo(at)att.net
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:14 pm Post subject: Performance of a Bose headset on a Kolb (Rotax engines)

?   I  tried a set of Bose in my MKIII with a 582 on it and they did not work very  good, noise is to high frequency in the Kolb. Comtronics headsets and intercom  combo set up worked well.  Tom

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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 5:57 am Post subject: Performance of a Bose headset on a Kolb (Rotax engines)

Tom/list,

 I have used the performance of the intercom as a measure in judging headsets.My 30+ year old David Clarks have a mike gain control (a small white plastic screw near the grill on my H-10-30s) that the nice lady at DC said I could adjust to help stop transmitting cabin noise.I called them to see if their latest mics would be better at controlling noise.She said I already had the best for this problem.I never noticed the adjusting screw,buried under the foam cover and leather boot I had installed over the years. Keeping the noise out of your ears with good seals ,DC makes some tapered eyeglass frame seals for that too,and keeping the noise out of the microphone helped me the most. 

 

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Jason Omelchuck

Joined: 07 May 2009
Posts: 120
Location: Portland Oregon

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:14 am Post subject: Re: Performance of a Bose headset on a Kolb (Rotax engines)

Hello All,



I have some very old off brand passive head sets and do not want to spend the money on a good pair.  What I have done is purchased some $60 noise canceling earbuds (Audio Technica) and that has worked fairly well.  I wear them under the headsets and I listen to the radio through the earbuds so the headsets are passive noise reduction and mic.  I recently purchased an intercom box so I am going to try a different method of just using the earbuds for noise canceling and the headsets for listening as well as talking because I now will have the volume available in the headset.  I am sure this is not as good a solution as a good ANR headset, but you can definitely tell the difference between the ANR turned on and off in the earbuds.



FWIW



Jason

MKIII

Portland, OR

NeilsenRM(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:58 pm Post subject: Performance of a Bose headset on a Kolb (Rotax engines)

Jason



I have a ANR kit that I added to my headset. It helps but I use Sony passive 

ear buds under my headsets to get even more noise reduction. They also do a 

much better job of sound reproduction than what I get with my Segtronics 

headsets. I'm currently operating out of a airport where there is a flight 

school staffed by instructors that use just passable English so the better I 

hear them fewer times I have to ask them to repeat those runway numbers. I 

have considered trying a set of those active noise canceling ear buds under 

my ANR headsets. Hey it might help? If nothing else when the headset battery 

craps out I would have a ear bud backup.



Don't under estimate the benefit of what you are doing. Like all aviation 

products you have to pay for the lawyers and get very little if any benefit.



I'm also going to look for some of those eye glass bow seals for my 

headsets.



Rick Neilsen

Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC



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lcottrell

Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1494
Location: Jordan Valley, Or

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 2:36 pm Post subject: Performance of a Bose headset on a Kolb (Rotax engines)

Strangely to me at least, I get better performance out of  a  Sigtronics S45 headset than I do from a DRE 6000 ANR. The mike is better  and easier to understand for my wife, on the base station. Has anyone put  an ANR kit in a pair of Sig's?

 Larry

  

  

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Watkinsdw

Joined: 15 Mar 2009
Posts: 138
Location: Deerfield Beach, FL

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 3:37 pm Post subject: Re: Performance of a Bose headset on a Kolb (Rotax engines)

I have a Bose headset. Picked it up at Sun and Fun a couple years ago in a weak moment (they were throwing in a CD player for free, so my years of resisting the temptation finally ended!) I paid them off over a year.



They're great in GA airplanes with Lycoming engines. They were totally ineffective in the MK3 with a Rotax 912. John is right. Get the DRE's with active noise reduction. We've got two sets in our Kolb and are very satisfied with them.

Have fun!

Dave

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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:52 pm Post subject: Performance of a Bose headset on a Kolb (Rotax engines)

I fly the same headset as you;  you will not find anything  quieter.  A friend of mine who has to have the very best of everything  thought that more$ = better.  He bought that $1k Bose,   then retired it for a QC.

  

 Howard  Shackleford

FS II

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  In a message dated 2/26/2010 1:25:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  miyer2u(at)yahoo.com writes:

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I wanted to know your views on the    performance of a Bose Headset on Rotax engines in case anyone has used    it.    

   

I presently fly with a Lightspeed    XC and it performs good both on the Kolb and GA aircraft, but if the Bose is    really quiet, I was planning to upgrade. Any feedback is    appreciated.

GeoB

Joined: 16 Jun 2009
Posts: 207
Location: Fresno, CA

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:43 pm Post subject: Re: Performance of a Bose headset on a Kolb (Rotax engines)

 	  Jason Omelchuck wrote: 	
		  I am going to try a different method of just using the earbuds for noise canceling and the headsets for listening

	




It sounds to me like the noise canceling will be trying to cancel the sound of the radio.

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