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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:42 pm    Post subject: Yak-List: Reply with quote

Get em Gunny. 700 hours on your 50? When you wear it out, mine is still
for sale. Have taken delivery of my new 300L.

Freindly reminder for Yak Listers....my Yak 50 is for sale. See link below
for details. Will Deliver. Make fair offer and it is yours.

http://homepage.mac.com/francisbutler/

DO NOT ARCHIVE

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From: Bitterlich GS11 Mark G <BitterlichMG(at)cherrypoint.usmc.mil>
Reply-To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
To: "'yak-list(at)matronics.com'" <yak-list(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:02:43 -0400

I concur with Smash, I thought it was constructive too... and Smash, I took
nothing personally.. and further, it did not really degenerate into
something that did not make sense. We were debating from two different
points of view, that is all. And... I still have just as much respect for
you AND your perspective as I did before. Anyway, it's a done deal.

That said excuse me, I have something else to add.

I consider many on this list to be personal friends, and I would consider
it
a great loss to lose my friendship with any one of you. But here's the
deal. Certain member(s) of this list have already managed to drive one
person off... that being the guy who helped start the whole thing to begin
with. THAT was reprehensible! His knowledge and ability with YAK and CJ
aircraft will not be easily replaced.

NO ONE likes to be told off in public. When I or anyone else is involved
with a discussion that bothers you, then HEY maybe it is about time for you
to read the instruction manual that came with your email program and figure
out how to send a message directly to the person you are upset with,
instead
of trying to see if you can get a gang of like-minded readers to slay your
target in public. Doing that is just dirty pool. I NEVER RECEIVED ONE
PERSONAL MESSAGE FROM ANY OF YOU CONCERNING THIS TOPIC OF DISCUSSION.
Shame
on every one of you that has the courage to complain on a list, but not the
decency to write a private message.

Personally, I got sick and tired of hearing all the nonsense about ACM/BCM
WEEKS AGO! If you are in the military and do ACM for a living GREAT! Lucky
you. If you feel others should not even try it because it is too
dangerous,
SHUT YOUR MOUTH, what others do is none of your darn business, and don't
try
to imply that what I do in my airplane can impact your airplanes value, so
therefore it IS your business. Nice try. I'll still do whatever I want to
do in MY AIRPLANE, and if that makes others upset. Tough. If that lowers
your airplanes value.... tough.... Suck it up, or sell it and buy
something else. By the way, I currently do not even DO much ACM in my
YAK-50, but when I want to, I will. End of discussion.

If the RPA won't sponsor ACM training, fine... I could care less. That
said, I take exception to members of the RPA using this list as their
public
announcement page. If people have the right to come on this list and tell
me to cease and desist, then I have the same right...... You RPA folks have
your own site, start using it to discuss your RPA issues.

Personally, I joined this list because I had something to offer others
based
on my 700 hours or more of flying my YAK-50, and also working with 52,s
Sukhoi 26's, 31,s etc. I think the technical articles I have written prove
that. I have been fortunate enough to hang around with people that know
these aircraft and have done my best to pass every mistake I have made and
every tidbit I have learned to others that look for that knowledge the same
as I do.

Bottom line, the people complaining are right.... Gary Gabbard, your
comments hit home. There's nothing a ham radio operator hates more than to
be referred to as a CB radio freak, much less "a child". I will look
forward to reading more from you that contributes toward what this site was
created for. In fact, I will look forward to reading ANYTHING from you
that
has contributed towards what this site was created for.

Thus I will now HAPPILY limit ALL future submissions to this list to what
it
was created for...... Just be darn sure if it applies to me... it damn
well applies to you too. Let's see how long it lasts... personally my
guess
is less than 24 hours.

Mark Bitterlich
YAK-50 Driver



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