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RotaxEngines-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 04/19/10

 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:24 am    Post subject: RotaxEngines-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 04/19/10 Reply with quote

Vince, that correlates pretty well with my experience. I never noticed any control issues because I almost always had to screw the power back on to make the field. The few times that I did make it was because I turned base immediately after I reduced power to idle. As for the assertion that the clutch is no worse than an engine out with prop stopped, once again, that's not my experience. The clutch is great for seaplane and towing where the landing field is alway below (watching a Moyes Dragonfly do a reasonable imitation of a Ju-87 Stuka after releasing me from tow was a sight to behold) but beyond that it's not for me.
Should anyone out there in the ether be considering the Rice King, do yourself a favor and put a couple of of tapped holes in the back plate (3/8-16 UNC or 10mm X 1.5 seem like a good compromise between size and strength) so you can remove it should the need arise. It was a major PITA to get off, but now I own a customized puller should I ever have to do it again. :-}


Rick Girard

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 7:16 AM, Vince Hallam <vince(at)devonwindmills.co.uk (vince(at)devonwindmills.co.uk)> wrote:
[quote]--> RotaxEngines-List message posted by: Vince Hallam <vince(at)devonwindmills.co.uk (vince(at)devonwindmills.co.uk)>

My experience of declutched freewheeling propellers is that in event
of engine off, glide distance is significantly reduced, perhaps worse
than half.
 This in turn cuts reachable landing spots to a quarter as well as
reducing time available. Yes you can use it intentionally like a
spoiler or flap, but you cant "reduce flap" to penetrate ahead.
Also the disturbed airflow over the tail can give you a nasty surprise
whe you try to do an accurate landing flare
Vince Hallam

Torquay, Devon, TQ1 3LZ

www.devonwindmills.co.uk



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>     1. 08:37 AM - Re: Fuel consumption for the 912S  (John Goodings)
>     2. 09:06 AM - Re: Re: Why exactly shouldn't you run a 914 without a prop?  (Noel Loveys)
>     3. 09:08 AM - Re: Re: Why exactly shouldn't you run a 914 without a prop?  (Gilles Thesee)
>     4. 09:14 AM - Re: Re: Fuel consumption for the 912S  (Gilles Thesee)
>     5. 11:34 AM - Re: Why exactly shouldn't you run a 914 without a prop?  (rparigoris)
>     6. 01:29 PM - Re: Why exactly shouldn't you run a 914 without a prop?  (rparigoris)
>     7. 03:15 PM - Re: 912s motor mount question  (Guy Buchanan)
>     8. 03:52 PM - Re: Why exactly shouldn't you run a 914 without a prop?  (lucien)
>     9. 07:06 PM - Desser 4.00-6 8 ply and 6 ply LSA tire  (Roger Lee)
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> Time: 08:37:05 AM PST US
> From: John Goodings <goodings(at)yorku.ca (goodings(at)yorku.ca)>
> Subject: Re: Fuel consumption for the 912S
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> People have been quoting fuel consumption figures for the Rotax 914
> recently.  The figures quoted seem rather high.  What fuel consumption do
> people get with the Rotax 912S (100 HP)?  We have measured it pretty
> carefully over quite a number of hours, and we are getting slightly under
> 16 litres/hr (4.34 U.S. gal/hr) at 5200 RPM cruise.  We use mainly 91
> octane mogas without ethanol additive, but probably 1/3 of the fuel used
> is 100 LL because we don't have a choice at many small airports in
> Ontario.  Here are other details of our aircraft, but I'm not sure they
> are very relevant to fuel consumption.  Our aircraft is a CH601HD with a
> 66-inch, 3-blade, GSC prop flying with 2 people (and 1 small Italian
> greyhound!) near 1200 lbs gross weight.  Because of that thick wing, our
> cruise is only about 100-105 mph.
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> John Goodings, C-FGPJ, CH601HD with R912S, Carp/Ottawa/Toronto.
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> Time: 09:06:03 AM PST US
> From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca (noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca)>
> Subject: RE: Re: Why exactly shouldn't you run a 914 without
> a prop?
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> Lucien:
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> Dave has a video up on you tube where he hand props a 582 in the middle of
> winter up to his backside in snow.  While rotax has good pull cord starters
> they have to come off to put on the standard electric starter.  Being able
> to hand prop a plane can be literally a life saver on a cold Ontario day.
>
> Noel
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