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bgreen(at)bimi.org
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Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:43 am Post subject: Kolb-List Digest: 22 Msgs - 05/05/10

Had not heard of the company change.  IMHO Kolb can make a better go of it if they stick to the designs put out by Homer.  Personally I got tired of seeing adds about a $100K plane built in China.

The people at Kolb are a butch of nice people for sure.  

Bob

MKIIIX

N830PB

Great Plains VW Re-drive

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mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.co
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Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 8:02 am Post subject: Kolb-List Digest: 22 Msgs - 05/05/10

> Had not heard of the company change. IMHO Kolb can make a better go of it if they stick to the designs put out by Homer.sure. 

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		   Bob

 MKIIIX

 N830PB

 Great Plains VW Re-drive


	


 Bob,

  

   Has any of the guys at Kolb Aircraft contacted you about your VW engine setup?  If I'm not mistaken, I though I heard Travis mention something about a VW-based engine for the next company built Xtra.

   I would imagine that the Kolb owner guys that are running the VW engines on their Xtra's would be sought after by Kolb Co.

   Maybe Travis could update us on this latest project, or whether or not it is out the window due to the latest developments.

  

 Mike Welch

 MkIII 

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capedavis(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 1:27 pm Post subject: Kolb-List Digest: 22 Msgs - 05/05/10

Mike/gang Thinking about what would help Kolb make a go of it Brian and the gang should stick with the Homer designs but --- IMHO they should go after the LSPA market with a new aircraft model with all the modifications the John Hauck and his brother Jim have done to his MKIII and all the obvious success he has had and all the fans that miss pfer and John have I think that the "MKIII Hauck "model would be very marketable and a flock of those would do a lot for our longevity.I personally dont care for the MKIII extra "they dont glide worth a sh-t "

Chris Davis

KXP 503 492 hrs

Glider Pilot

Disabled from crash building Firefly  



 

   From: Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com>

To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Thu, May 6, 2010 12:00:18 PM

Subject: RE: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 22 Msgs - 05/05/10



  > Had not heard of the company change. IMHO Kolb can make a better go of it if they stick to the designs put out by Homer.sure. 

 	  Quote: 	
		   Bob

 MKIIIX

 N830PB

 Great Plains VW Re-drive


	


Bob,

 

  Has any of the guys at Kolb Aircraft contacted you about your VW engine setup?  If I'm not mistaken, I though I heard Travis mention something about a VW-based engine for the next company built Xtra.

  I would imagine that the Kolb owner guys that are running the VW engines on their Xtra's would be sought after by Kolb Co.

  Maybe Travis could update us on this latest project, or whether or not it is out the window due to the latest developments.

 

Mike Welch

MkIII 



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slyck(at)frontiernet.net
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Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 2:04 pm Post subject: Kolb-List Digest: 22 Msgs - 05/05/10

Not many kit planes, Kolbs included, are good gliders.  That's not what we bought them for.  The bare bones simplicityand ability to fly safely in a well designed airplane is what lures Kolb builders and buyers.  My original aim was for a FSII

but the opportunity cropped up for a wrecked MKIII so I "settled for" that.  No regrets.

I think the xtra is an attractive modification to the MKIII design.  I doubt if the flying qualities have been compromised.

The best Kolb can do is continue their excellent support of the fleet as it is.  I have an order for parts coming in the mail now.

If nobody buys stuff from them they will evaporate.

There is always room for a new and innovative airplane.  Perhaps they can do some design work in their spare time. Another P 103 UL?  

BB

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On 6, May 2010, at 5:25 PM, chris davis wrote:

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Mike/gang Thinking about what would help Kolb make a go of it Brian and the gang should stick with the Homer designs but --- IMHO they should go after the LSPA market with a new aircraft model with all the modifications the John Hauck and his brother Jim have done to his MKIII and all the obvious success he has had and all the fans that miss pfer and John have I think that the "MKIII Hauck "model would be very marketable and a flock of those would do a lot for our longevity.I personally dont care for the MKIII extra "they dont glide worth a sh-t "

Chris Davis

KXP 503 492 hrs

Glider Pilot

Disabled from crash building Firefly

From: Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com (mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com)>

To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)

Sent: Thu, May 6, 2010 12:00:18 PM

Subject: RE: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 22 Msgs - 05/05/10



 	  Quote: 	
		   Had not heard of the company change. IMHO Kolb can make a better go of it if they stick to the designs put out by Homer.sure. 

 Bob

 MKIIIX

 N830PB

 Great Plains VW Re-drive


	


Bob,

 

  Has any of the guys at Kolb Aircraft contacted you about your VW engine setup?  If I'm not mistaken, I though I heard Travis mention something about a VW-based engine for the next company built Xtra.

  I would imagine that the Kolb owner guys that are running the VW engines on their Xtra's would be sought after by Kolb Co.

  Maybe Travis could update us on this latest project, or whether or not it is out the window due to the latest developments.

 

Mike Welch

MkIII 



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capedavis(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 3:04 pm Post subject: Kolb-List Digest: 22 Msgs - 05/05/10

Robert , I was making a Joke about them gliding as the one I crashed in didnt make it to the runway after the engine quit . Sorry if I offended anyone ,I am still and always will be a Kolb lover and as soon as I finish building once again I will be  a Kolb flyer I just really prefer missPfer to the Xtra!

Chris Davis

KXP 503 492 hrs

Glider Pilot

Disabled from crash building Firefly  



 

   From: robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net>

To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Thu, May 6, 2010 6:04:13 PM

Subject: Re: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 22 Msgs - 05/05/10



Not many kit planes, Kolbs included, are good gliders.  That's not what we bought them for.  The bare bones simplicity  and ability to fly safely in a well designed airplane is what lures Kolb builders and buyers.  My original aim was for a FSII

 but the opportunity cropped up for a wrecked MKIII so I "settled for" that.  No regrets.

 



 I think the xtra is an attractive modification to the MKIII design.  I doubt if the flying qualities have been compromised.

 The best Kolb can do is continue their excellent support of the fleet as it is.  I have an order for parts coming in the mail now.

 If nobody buys stuff from them they will evaporate.

 



 There is always room for a new and innovative airplane.  Perhaps they can do some design work in their spare time. Another P 103 UL?  

 BB

 do not archive

 

  On 6, May 2010, at 5:25 PM, chris davis wrote:

 [quote]   

 Mike/gang Thinking about what would help Kolb make a go of it Brian and the gang should stick with the Homer designs but --- IMHO they should go after the LSPA market with a new aircraft model with all the modifications the John Hauck and his brother Jim have done to his MKIII and all the obvious success he has had and all the fans that miss pfer and John have I think that the "MKIII Hauck "model would be very marketable and a flock of those would do a lot for our longevity.I personally dont care for the MKIII extra "they dont glide worth a sh-t "

Chris Davis

KXP 503 492 hrs

Glider Pilot

Disabled from crash building Firefly  



 

   From: Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com (mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com)>

To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)

Sent: Thu, May 6, 2010 12:00:18 PM

Subject: RE: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 22 Msgs - 05/05/10



 	  Quote: 	
		   Had not heard of the company change. IMHO Kolb can make a better go of it if they stick to the designs put out by Homer.sure. 

 Bob

 MKIIIX

 N830PB

 Great Plains VW Re-drive


	


Bob,

 

  Has any of the guys at Kolb Aircraft contacted you about your VW engine setup?  If I'm not mistaken, I though I heard Travis mention something about a VW-based engine for the next company built Xtra.

  I would imagine that the Kolb owner guys that are running the VW engines on their Xtra's would be sought after by Kolb Co.

  Maybe Travis could update us on this latest project, or whether or not it is out the window due to the latest developments.

 

Mike Welch

MkIII 



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