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woxofswa
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 Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:42 am Post subject: Brother's keepers |
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In light of John's post about some losses and insurance rates, I have decided to express some thoughts that I have been having for a while.
I just got involved in this community right about the time of the tragic accident of a builder who crashed and died in his RV-10. What seemed odd to me as a new member of the fraternity was all of the retrospective thoughts by those who knew the guy well about red flags that they had seen during his building and flying process. Apparently the guy was popular and well liked and people didn't step forward when they saw things that concerned them.
I thought about that again when I recently read about a guy who launched his first flight (successfully) without a functioning generator. I can see how any of us, myself included, can get all wrapped up in the first flight hoopla, that we take a chance on something that we wouldn't have otherwise done.
None of us are wiser than any other. The lowliest student pilot can catch something that the most experienced ATP can miss. It doesn't do any good however, if nobody speaks up out of fear of offending someone.
Every crash is not only tragic, but it costs each and every one of us dearly out of our own pocketbooks either directly or indirectly. Immediately or down the road we are each eventually going to pay for every accident.
As a community, we need to hunker down and police ourselves. We need to comment forcefully on red flags, unwise practices, and the like, and foster more vigilance and commitment to building and flying in the safest manner possible.
Friends don't let friends push the envelope. I need and request everyone's help to keep from doing something stupid. The safety of the RV-10 community is in our hands until things deteriorate to the point that unwanted hands step in with onerous regulation and/or prohibitive cost.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:04 pm Post subject: Brother's keepers |
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Negative Ghost Rider.....Lots of us stepped in, i.e. Horse, water, shown water, refused to drink. Lots of people attempted to guide Dan, even to the point of not telling him any more info that may allegedly use to allow him to skirt the processes.
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In light of John's post about some losses and insurance rates, I have decided to express some thoughts that I have been having for a while.
I just got involved in this community right about the time of the tragic accident of a builder who crashed and died in his RV-10. What seemed odd to me as a new member of the fraternity was all of the retrospective thoughts by those who knew the guy well about red flags that they had seen during his building and flying process. Apparently the guy was popular and well liked and people didn't step forward when they saw things that concerned them.
I thought about that again when I recently read about a guy who launched his first flight (successfully) without a functioning generator. I can see how any of us, myself included, can get all wrapped up in the first flight hoopla, that we take a chance on something that we wouldn't have otherwise done.
None of us are wiser than any other. The lowliest student pilot can catch something that the most experienced ATP can miss. It doesn't do any good however, if nobody speaks up out of fear of offending someone.
Every crash is not only tragic, but it costs each and every one of us dearly out of our own pocketbooks either directly or indirectly. Immediately or down the road we are each eventually going to pay for every accident.
As a community, we need to hunker down and police ourselves. We need to comment forcefully on red flags, unwise practices, and the like, and foster more vigilance and commitment to building and flying in the safest manner possible.
Friends don't let friends push the envelope. I need and request everyone's help to keep from doing something stupid. The safety of the RV-10 community is in our hands until things deteriorate to the point that unwanted hands step in with onerous regulation and/or prohibitive cost.
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Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse in progress
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bcondrey
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| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:36 pm Post subject: Brother's keepers |
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I'll confirm Rick's statement.
Bob
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woxofswa
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| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:51 pm Post subject: Re: Brother's keepers |
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>>Negative Ghost Rider<<
I wasn't there and must defer to those who were. I just remember reading a heartfelt introspective by someone who was obviously close to him and who lamented that he hadn't done more.
I'm not trying to step on anyone's toes. The individual cases don't matter as much as the theory that a group is stronger than the sum of its individual parts.
In any facet of aviation there is always room for improvement and refinement. Yes there will always be cowboys and fringe elements and it is, afterall, "experimental" aviation. We obviously don't need ramp nazis, but we do need friends and supporters to look out for each other and refocus us when we get off kilter. I could easily see myself get all ramped up for a first flight and have an inoperative component but let "giterdonitis" enter into my actions. I want (and will have) a buddy by my side to bring me back into proper focus.
This is just a call for all of us, individually and collectively, to step up our game a notch before elements out of our control come in and force us to.
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woxofswa
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| Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:54 am Post subject: Re: Brother's keepers |
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In retrospect I should have found a way to press my message forward without reference to the past.
I didn't mean any disrespect or to resurrect painful memories. For that I apologize.
I now more fully understand the herculean efforts that the community has made in the past to help members.
The community of builders is one of the greatest assets and motivators to this avocation. Let's magnify it going forward.
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