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n223rv(at)wolflakeairport
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:24 am Post subject: Overhead Console Question

I have seen a lot of pictures regarding the full length overhead consoles, but don't recall seeing how everyone is finishing the aft end of them to the rear baggage bulkhead.  



On my console, the height of it covers some of the screws that hold on the upper rear baggage panel.  Also the console has to have a good seal against this panel, so I am assuming this now will have to become permanent? 



How is everyone sealing the console to the bulkhead?  I have mine cut to within 1/8" of the rear panel and was considering filling and fiberglassing it to the bulkhead, but wanted to understand what others were doing.



Any help would be greatly appreciated.

-Mike Kraus

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Lew Gallagher

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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 4:28 am Post subject: Re: Overhead Console Question

Hey Mike,



Just a thought about sealing to the rear bulkhead.  I've been roofing for the past few weekends and the "new" sealant is polyurethane in a caulk tube.  Home depot is NP-1 (aluminum, black, limestone, white - 181251,181250, 181249), Lowes is PL roof and flashing sealant (black 68457).  This stuff is very similar to the urethane they put windshields in cars with, creates a flexible bond that's pretty permanent but could be cut if need be -- better than silicone.



Chemical guys chime in here, I just use the stuff, don't know the technical specs on it, but it bonds really well to everything.  We put in headliner instead of paint -- don't know about painting polyurethane, but the joint should be inconspicuous.



Later, - Lew

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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 5:58 am Post subject: Overhead Console Question

I used a "d" seal from mcmaster that pushes up against the rear  

bulkhead.  It makes it possible to slide up the upper bulkhead and  

screw in place.



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On Jun 11, 2010, at 6:29, "Lew Gallagher" <lewgall(at)charter.net> wrote:



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 Hey Mike,



 Just a thought about sealing to the rear bulkhead.  I've been  

 roofing for the past few weekends and the "new" sealant is  

 polyurethane in a caulk tube.  Home depot is NP-1 (aluminum, black,  

 limestone, white - 181251,181250, 181249), Lowes is PL roof and  

 flashing sealant (black 68457).  This stuff is very similar to the  

 urethane they put windshields in cars with, creates a flexible bond  

 that's pretty permanent but could be cut if need be -- better than  

 silicone.



 Chemical guys chime in here, I just use the stuff, don't know the  

 technical specs on it, but it bonds really well to everything.  We  

 put in headliner instead of paint -- don't know about painting  

 polyurethane, but the joint should be inconspicuous.



 Later, - Lew



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n223rv(at)wolflakeairport
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 6:55 am Post subject: Overhead Console Question

Sean,

Aren't your top screws covered by the overhead console?  Or do you  

just leave those out?



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On Jun 11, 2010, at 9:56 AM, Seano <sean(at)braunandco.com> wrote:



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 I used a "d" seal from mcmaster that pushes up against the rear  

 bulkhead.  It makes it possible to slide up the upper bulkhead and  

 screw in place.



 Sent from my iPhone



 On Jun 11, 2010, at 6:29, "Lew Gallagher" <lewgall(at)charter.net> wrote:



> 

> <lewgall(at)charter.net>

>

> Hey Mike,

>

> Just a thought about sealing to the rear bulkhead.  I've been  

> roofing for the past few weekends and the "new" sealant is  

> polyurethane in a caulk tube.  Home depot is NP-1 (aluminum, black,  

> limestone, white - 181251,181250, 181249), Lowes is PL roof and  

> flashing sealant (black 68457).  This stuff is very similar to the  

> urethane they put windshields in cars with, creates a flexible bond  

> that's pretty permanent but could be cut if need be -- better than  

> silicone.

>

> Chemical guys chime in here, I just use the stuff, don't know the  

> technical specs on it, but it bonds really well to everything.  We  

> put in headliner instead of paint -- don't know about painting  

> polyurethane, but the joint should be inconspicuous.

>

> Later, - Lew

>

> --------

> non-pilot

> crazy about building

> NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549

> Fly off completed !

>

>

> Read this topic online here:

>

> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300926#300926

>

>

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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:18 am Post subject: Re: Overhead Console Question

It pushes pretty tight with the "D" seal so I leave the middle two screws out.  I had two carve two small half circles out on the top of the upper bulkhead so there would be room for the duct couplers behind the overhead.

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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:29 am Post subject: Overhead Console Question

Michael Kraus wrote:

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 I have seen a lot of pictures regarding the full length overhead consoles, but don't recall seeing how everyone is finishing the aft end of them to the rear baggage bulkhead.  

   

Mine will have a flange on it .... will have because I'm just now 
	


getting ready to lay it up.

 	  Quote: 	
		   On my console, the height of it covers some of the screws that hold on the upper rear baggage panel.  Also the console has to have a good seal against this panel, so I am assuming this now will have to become permanent?

I don't think 'permanent' is a good idea.  I plan on mounting mine with 
	


a couple of screws (# not yet determined) and silicone to seal it. I'm 

not sure yet, but I think foam door seal should work real well.  

Considering the surface area of the console, a little air pressure can 

become significant in PSI.

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 How is everyone sealing the console to the bulkhead?  I have mine cut to within 1/8" of the rear panel and was considering filling and fiberglassing it to the bulkhead, but wanted to understand what others were doing.

   

I wouldn't seal it up permanently .... you may want to remove the 
	


bulkhead at a later date.

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		   Any help would be greatly appreciated.

   

Not sure if that's help, but that's the direction I'm heading.
	


Linn

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Ron B.

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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:32 pm Post subject: Re: Overhead Console Question

I made a flange at the aft end on the console and used a foam gasket to seal it up. I placed a few screws through the flange into nutplates on the bulkhead.

Ron

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woxofswa

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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 6:27 pm Post subject: Re: Overhead Console Question

I glassed mine to the bulkhead.  I then put in a couple of rivets in case vibration tries to separate the glass from the metal.  I wanted a tight seal for the air conditioning.



I lost a couple of panel screw holes, but I am going to put an additional one on the center upright.  I don't think it will be a problem.

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