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paulf(at)ncsu.edu
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 3:56 am Post subject: Looking for RV-8

All:  

   

On Thursday, the engine of my RV-4 quit over poor terrain, and the plane is totaled.  I am OK though sore.  I have decided to upgrade to an RV-8, and would appreciate people’s collected wisdom on what features to look for, especially from builders.  I am looking at one at Elizabeth town later this week and would appreciate a builder looking with me if you can please.  

   

Any other leads would be appreciated!  

   

I am looking for a CS speed prop, decent power, and equipment or potential to fly light IFR.  

   

Things to look for:  

   

Constant Speed Prop: Anything particular to avoid?  

   

Weight:  What is a good weight range indicating a quality build?  

   

Build features:  Anything dumb that makes MX hard.  E.g. Battery placement, panel access, etc.  Anything dumb that creates problems later.  

   

Engine:  I have flown IO-360 for years, but guess I should be open to an O-360.  I am tempted to avoid 200 hp in case 100LL availability becomes an issue.   Comments?  I don’t know if the 390 is high compression or not.  

   

Panel:   Avoid Blue Mountain.  Prefer trutrack over other autopilots.  Could upgrade if price is right.  IFR GPS if possible since that is expensive..  

Any other comments, please?  

   

I appreciate your held and advice.  

   

Regards,   

   

Paul   

   

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Larry Bowen

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Posts: 802
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 5:42 am Post subject: Looking for RV-8

Sorry to hear that, Paul.  Glad you are alright.  Please share some details if you're willing.

 

Random thoughts:

Prop - Traditional Hartzell is fine, but heavy.  Everything else being equal, I might prefer an 8 with a composite prop.

 



Weight - Not sure what the avg is.  Mine was 1130 with paint.



 

Maint - Access panels above the gear towers are handy.  Mine didn't leak.  Accurate electrical documentation is a plus.



 

Engine - I don't think the 390 is high compression.  How does the W&B work out with one of those and a heavy prop?  I had no regrets with 180 O360.  I'm doing a 180 IO360 on the RV-7.

 



Panel - Lots of personal decisions here.  IMO, the cost to keep plane and pilot IFR current and qualified is too high, but I'm just a casual fligher.  Getting an 8 with a dated panel and redoing to your liking has it's advantages...

 



Best of luck.  Let us know how it goes.

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Larry Bowen

Larry(at)BowenAero.com

http://BowenAero.com

 



On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 7:55 AM, Paul Franzon <paulf(at)ncsu.edu (paulf(at)ncsu.edu)> wrote:

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All:  

   

On Thursday, the engine of my RV-4 quit over poor terrain, and the plane is totaled.  I am OK though sore.  I have decided to upgrade to an RV-8, and would appreciate people’s collected wisdom on what features to look for, especially from builders.  I am looking at one at Elizabeth town later this week and would appreciate a builder looking with me if you can please.  

   

Any other leads would be appreciated!  

   

I am looking for a CS speed prop, decent power, and equipment or potential to fly light IFR.  

   

Things to look for:  

   

Constant Speed Prop: Anything particular to avoid?  

   

Weight:  What is a good weight range indicating a quality build?  

   

Build features:  Anything dumb that makes MX hard.  E.g. Battery placement, panel access, etc.  Anything dumb that creates problems later.  

   

Engine:  I have flown IO-360 for years, but guess I should be open to an O-360.  I am tempted to avoid 200 hp in case 100LL availability becomes an issue.   Comments?  I don’t know if the 390 is high compression or not.  

   

Panel:   Avoid Blue Mountain.  Prefer trutrack over other autopilots.  Could upgrade if price is right.  IFR GPS if possible since that is expensive..  

Any other comments, please?  

   

I appreciate your held and advice.  

   

Regards,   

   

Paul   

   

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paulf(at)ncsu.edu
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Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:44 am Post subject: Looking for RV-8

Larry, Thanks.  

   

I was flying from PDK to 78NC.  I was just south of Charlotte when the engine “popped” and  started losing power.  It had some power so I thought I could make Pageland airport, but the engine quit. All the fields were small but I could see a 4 lane road at a 45 degree anglewith no wires on my side.  Thought it would make a nice runway.  However, I was behind the energy curve when I got there so hit hard and slid into the median.  In fact the landing is a bit of a blank, though I remember the slide. I do remember making a point of not turning so I would not catch a wing.  I hit a post and fuel was pouring out so I jumped out of the plane straight away.  BTW, I did call a Mayday on 121.5 (and set my transponder to emergency) and ATC was very helpful.    

   

I landed in front a policeman so got help pretty quickly.  Was taken to the ER – no broken bones but badly pulled muscles. Was released that night.   The ER doc used to live a few miles from me in Adelaide, Australia!  I am still in bed today (at home).  My wife drove up and fetched me from the ER.  

   

An FAA inspector called me the next morning.  I met her at the plane (now in the tow yard) and she worked with a policeman (who has an RV-6) and tried to determine the cause. The preliminary finding is something wrong with the valves.  She was from the Columbia FSDO, and has an A&P.  She was very nice and made it clear that she was not “old school” FAA (my words not hers).  The FAA was great through the whole thing so far, and I am not anticipating any issues.  She even requested that the NTSB release the plane so I can settle the insurance quickly.  

   

When the prop stopped turning, the plane felt and sounded just like a glider.  In fact, I distinctly remember how pitch authority became more “glider like”.   I have a glider rating, which definitely helped me in this.  

   

Regards,  

   

Paul  

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

     

From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Bowen

 Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 9:42 AM

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 Subject: Re: Looking for RV-8  

  

   

Sorry to hear that, Paul.  Glad you are alright.  Please share some details if you're willing.    

   

    

Random thoughts:    

   

    

Prop - Traditional Hartzell is fine, but heavy.  Everything else being equal, I might prefer an 8 with a composite prop.  

    

   

    

Weight - Not sure what the avg is.  Mine was 1130 with paint.  

    

   

    

Maint - Access panels above the gear towers are handy.  Mine didn't leak.  Accurate electrical documentation is a plus.  

    

   

    

Engine - I don't think the 390 is high compression.  How does the W&B work out with one of those and a heavy prop?  I had no regrets with 180 O360.  I'm doing a 180 IO360 on the RV-7.  

    

   

    

Panel - Lots of personal decisions here.  IMO, the cost to keep plane and pilot IFR current and qualified is too high, but I'm just a casual fligher.  Getting an 8 with a dated panel and redoing to your liking has it's advantages...  

    

   

    

Best of luck.  Let us know how it goes.  

    

 --

 Larry Bowen

 Larry(at)BowenAero.com

 http://BowenAero.com

 

     

On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 7:55 AM, Paul Franzon <paulf(at)ncsu.edu (paulf(at)ncsu.edu)> wrote:      

All:  

   

On Thursday, the engine of my RV-4 quit over poor terrain, and the plane is totaled.  I am OK though sore.  I have decided to upgrade to an RV-8, and would appreciate people’s collected wisdom on what features to look for, especially from builders.  I am looking at one at Elizabeth town later this week and would appreciate a builder looking with me if you can please.  

   

Any other leads would be appreciated!  

   

I am looking for a CS speed prop, decent power, and equipment or potential to fly light IFR.  

   

Things to look for:  

   

Constant Speed Prop: Anything particular to avoid?  

   

Weight:  What is a good weight range indicating a quality build?  

   

Build features:  Anything dumb that makes MX hard.  E.g. Battery placement, panel access, etc.  Anything dumb that creates problems later.  

   

Engine:  I have flown IO-360 for years, but guess I should be open to an O-360.  I am tempted to avoid 200 hp in case 100LL availability becomes an issue.   Comments?  I don’t know if the 390 is high compression or not.  

   

Panel:   Avoid Blue Mountain.  Prefer trutrack over other autopilots.  Could upgrade if price is right.  IFR GPS if possible since that is expensive..  

Any other comments, please?  

   

I appreciate your held and advice.  

   

Regards,   

   

Paul   

   

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