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sidsel.svein(at)oslo.onli
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Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:23 am Post subject: SV: SV: Trip to Denmark, Sweden and Norway

Frans,



 	  Quote: 	
		  >I just found this in some other information package as well. Trouble is

that the Norwegian AIP says otherwise (or I have misinterpreted it). 
	




Here is the direct link to the Directorate of Customs' own web page

containing all the necessary details:



http://www.toll.no/templates_TAD/Article.aspx?id=145132&epslanguage=EN



The flight plan may be sent by fax to:  +47 22 86 08 00



or as an e-mail attachment (or summarized in the e-mail text) to:

desken(at)toll.no



or called in to telephone number:  +47 22 17 18 17 if time or available

fascilities do not make fax or e-mail practical (as when the flight plan has

been called in to the AIS by telephone or time between filing the flight

plan and ETA is shorter than the prescribed 4 hours (I did this two weeks

ago when flying home from Denmark, no problem at all).



I can assure you that this simple procedure is still in force - I have used

it twice for leaving Norway and twice for re-entering this summer, most

recently  two weeks ago.

Here is a good source for VFR flying in Norway, issued by our CAA:

http://www.luftfartstilsynet.no/multimedia/archive/00006/VFR-guide_for_Norwa

y__6222a.pdf



Here you will also find (p. 31) the simple procedure for flying in and out

of smaller aerodromes not having customs service, if flying from/to an

aerodrome in a Schengen country.  There is an unfortunate statement at the

beginning of "TRAFFIC BETWEEN NORWAY AND SCHENGEN COUNTRIES", saying that it

applies to aircraft holding a normal EASA type certificate.  I have a year

ago made our CAA aware that this special customs procedure also applies to

homebuilt aircraft, but they have not bothered to correct it (there is no

2010 issue - yet).  

The entering/leaving/customs stipulations on p. 32 do not apply if you come

from or fly to a Scehngen country.  The language is unclear here and may

cause confusion as to whether p.32 applies regardless, but it only comes

into effect if you do not come from or fly to a Schengen country.



 	  Quote: 	
		  >But Norway, it isn't a Schengen country, is it?

Norway is a Schengen country.  Maybe you are thinking of EU, which we are
	


not a member of.



In another mail a day or two ago you asked about an island between Denmark

and Sweden with an airstrip.  There are actually (at least) two such

islands, Anholt (EKAT)and Læsø (Laesoe) EKLS.  I have not been to Anholt,

but can recommend Læsø very highly.  We had a small Nordic Europa fly-in

there in May this year.  Although camping by the aircraft is not generally

permitted, we got permission.  There is a nice club house with good

facilities (no shower, though) which you should be able to get the key to.

Good bikes are available for rent by prior arrangement (the aerodrome is

unattended).  Læsø is a most charming island.  Bring a good map of the roads

to get to the places with shops and restuarants - there are no terrain

features to navigate by (just like in Holland!).



 	  Quote: 	
		  >Hey, I thought you are Swedish. Your airplane, doesn't it have a Swedish

call sign, or do I confuse you with someone else?
	


Our union with Sweden ended in 1905!  My airplane call sign is LN-SKJ - La

Norvége (by coincidence, it was our turn in the alphabet!)



Regards,

Svein

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frans(at)privatepilots.nl
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Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 1:12 pm Post subject: SV: SV: Trip to Denmark, Sweden and Norway

On 06/20/2010 09:18 PM, Sidsel og Svein Johnsen wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   Here is a good source for VFR flying in Norway, issued by our CAA:

 http://www.luftfartstilsynet.no/multimedia/archive/00006/VFR-guide_for_Norwa

 y__6222a.pdf


	


Your reply is most helpfull! Thank you very much!



 	  Quote: 	
		   Norway is a Schengen country.  Maybe you are thinking of EU, which we are

 not a member of.


	


Ok, then I was wrong here. I remember from previous visits to Norway (by

commercial airplane, and by boat) that I had to go through customs, and

even got a stamp in my passport. But ok, my regular visits to Norway

ended some 10 years ago, so things have probably changed since then. I

still consider Norway as the most beautiful country of Europe, so that's

why, now I have an affordable way to travel, I look forward to going

there again.



 	  Quote: 	
		   In another mail a day or two ago you asked about an island between Denmark

 and Sweden with an airstrip.  There are actually (at least) two such

 islands, Anholt (EKAT)and Læsø (Laesoe) EKLS.


	


Yep, I saw these on the maps. I just wondered whether they were worth

visiting, and I'm pleased to hear that at least one of them is!



 	  Quote: 	
		  >> Hey, I thought you are Swedish. Your airplane, doesn't it have a Swedish

 call sign, or do I confuse you with someone else?

 Our union with Sweden ended in 1905!  My airplane call sign is LN-SKJ


	


Ok, I did confuse you with someone else. Well, now I won't forget it

anymore. 



Where are you located in Norway?



Thanks!

Frans

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kheindl(at)msn.com
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Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 3:00 pm Post subject: SV: SV: Trip to Denmark, Sweden and Norway

 Svein wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

 > In another mail a day or two ago you asked about an island between Denmark

 > and Sweden with an airstrip. There are actually (at least) two such

 > islands, Anholt (EKAT)and Læsø (Laesoe) EKLS.

  Many years ago I accompanied my brother in a Cessna from Germany to the Danish island Bornholm.  I remember it as a very nice place, excellent airport, and reasonable accomodation just minutes away. Rent bicycles to explore the island.

 Karl

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