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tdawson-townsend(at)auror
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Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 7:21 pm Post subject: Full tanks for first flight?

From the age-old advice of always taking as much fuel with you as possible when flying, I’m inclined to do my first flight with full tanks.  

   

Any reason not to?  W&B seems reasonable.  

   

TDT

 

   

   

Tim Dawson-Townsend  

RV-10  40025  

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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:01 pm Post subject: Full tanks for first flight?

To be honest, I never really thought about flying without full tanks.  That saying 'the only time you have too much fuel is when you're on fire' comes to mind.  I don't start a trip ..... even local .... without full fuel unless my airplane has really long legs.  My vote then, is for full fuel.  W&B consideration is a good one.

 Can't wait 'till I'm faced with that issue!!!  

 Linn

 

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From the age-old advice of always taking as much fuel with you as possible when flying, I’m inclined to do my first flight with full tanks.   

    

Any reason not to?  W&B seems reasonable.   

    

TDT

   

      

    

Tim Dawson-Townsend   

RV-10  40025   

tdt(at)aurora.aero (tdt(at)aurora.aero)    

617-500-4812 (office)   

617-905-4800 (mobile)   

    

    

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Kelly McMullen

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Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:51 pm Post subject: Full tanks for first flight?

I'd take enough for the planned flight plus 15 gal. Do you really want

full tanks if something forces you to put it down off-airport? When is

the probability of a fire absolutely highest in your aircraft? I'd be

surprised if it isn't some where during Phase I. Would you even

consider taking off for first flight at full gross? I think not. Why

would you want full fuel? What does it do for you that a couple hours

of fuel doesn't handle? Are you concerned about the tank not feeding

properly if it isn't full, or??



On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Dawson-Townsend,Timothy

<tdawson-townsend(at)aurora.aero> wrote:

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		   From the age-old advice of always taking as much fuel with you as possible

 when flying, I’m inclined to do my first flight with full tanks.



 Any reason not to?  W&B seems reasonable.



 TDT



 Tim Dawson-Townsend



 RV-10  40025



 tdt(at)aurora.aero



 617-500-4812 (office)



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taildragon(at)msn.com
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 6:42 am Post subject: Full tanks for first flight?

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->  Think like a test pilot...20 -30 minute first flight, no more than 1/2  tanks, 80 - 100 lbs of sand in baggage area, flame suit if you have one or at  least long cotton clothes and gloves, helmet, small fire axe...the list goes  on...get some good transition training and all this will be covered. Don't be  caught upside down in some field smelling fuel thinking "wish I had planned this  out a little better"!

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AirMike

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Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:27 am Post subject: Full tanks for first flight?

Mike Seager also had me put 50 lbs of lead shot/ sand in the baggage area to improve balance and trim on the first flights.

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Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:57 am Post subject: Full tanks for first flight?

I encourage anyone getting ready for the first flight to go to the EAA 

webinars and listen through the "first flight in your homebuilt", in there 

there is reference to fuel, oil, flight plans.. etc..



In the meantime AC90-89 is a great source for the flight test period. It 

states 4 times the amount of fuel needed for the first flight- I take that 

to mean if I plan a 20-30 minute flight at 15GPH that would mean I need 8GPH 

for the first flight times 4 which is 24 Gallons.



Start on page 33 of the AC 90-89a, gives all the details we all need for the 

prep and actual flights.



Pascal

No where near needing to think about the first flight but it's never too 

early to start anyway!



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From: "AirMike" <Mikeabel(at)Pacbell.net>

Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 9:27 AM

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 Mike Seager also had me put 50 lbs of lead shot/ sand in the baggage area 

 to improve balance and trim on the first flights.



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dan.masys(at)vanderbilt.e
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Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:22 pm Post subject: Full tanks for first flight?

On my RV-10 first flight back in July of 2007, as I went to full throttle I found myself mightily surprised when at full forward (climb pitch, flat pitch) on the RPM knob my RV-10 with a new fresh-from-the-factory IO-540 would only turn 2400 rpm, on a 95 degree day lifting off from an uphill runway.  The plane felt like it was 'lugging' due to climbing with prop in cruise configuration, but it did climb about 800 ft per minute with half fuel, 50 pounds of sand in the baggage compartment, and just me (at 170 lbs) aboard.  It was pretty exciting (in a negative way, given that my other plane at the time was a 2000+ fpm climbing RV-7A) and I was very glad to have a relatively light airplane for that first time around the patch.  After adjusting the prop governor up to 2700 rpm dynamic for the second flight (still wasn't much more than 2400 static) the climb rate was up to about 1800 fpm the same afternoon.



Half fuel sounds just about perfect for a first flight from my perspective.  As old time EAA's say, "Keep it light and it will keep you happy."  Next first flight will be the RV-12 later this summer, and ten of twenty possible gallons in the tank should be just right.



-Dan Masys

RV-10 N104LD 320 hrs

RV-12 N122LD firewall forward

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		  Time: 07:42:36 AM PST US

From: "Roger Standley" <taildragon(at)msn.com>

Subject: Re: Full tanks for first flight?


	


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		  Think like a test pilot...20 -30 minute first flight, no more than 1/2 

tanks, 80 - 100 lbs of sand in baggage area, flame suit if you have one 

or at least long cotton clothes and gloves, helmet, small fire axe...the 

list goes on...get some good transition training and all this will be 

covered. Don't be caught upside down in some field smelling fuel 

thinking "wish I had planned this out a little better"!

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