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barry.collman(at)air-brit
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:08 pm Post subject: Palm Tree Airways Ltd

Hi Guys,



I'm currently getting a stack of photos catalogued on to my Commander photos 

database.



One photograph is a shot of a Model 680, N6854S. This is serial number 368-54. I 

am unaware of the date or location.



It has "Palm Tree Airways Ltd" titles on the forward fuselage, but it was never 

registered to such an operator.



Question is, and I know it's a long shot, does anyone know of such an operator?



Best Regards,

Barry C (UK)

steveg(at)nternet.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 1:45 pm Post subject: Palm Tree Airways Ltd

Barry,



I have my partner in Oz looking around as the Ltd could point in that

direction.  While poking around the net I came up with a copy of email

correspondence (see below) between educators where one of them recommends a

flight on Palm Tree Airways to Nunavut in Canada.



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		  From tdonelly(at)binghamton.edu  Wed Jan 15 03:53:16 2003

From: tdonelly(at)binghamton.edu (Nick Donnelly)
	


Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:53:16 -0500

Subject: [Odonata-l] Canadian geographic holes

In-Reply-To: <v01540b35ba4a6da92db3(at)[139.142.112.34]>

Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.1.20030114223608.00d58bb0(at)mail.binghamton.edu>



 	  Quote: 	
		  The farming districts of southern Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and Alberta are 

remarkably poorly covered.  These may not be considered attractive areas, 

but if you find yourself driving across the northern Great Plains, I 

suggest you stop from time to time to see what you can find.


	


I also suggest further collecting in the northern Rockies.  The range maps 

of several transcontinental species (like Aeshna tuberculifera) might 

suggest a gap between eastern and western populations.  I do not think 

there is a disjunction at all.  I think this area is poorly collected.



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		    If Walker had not spent a few weeks in horse and buggy in Manitoba, we 

 would have vastly fewer records.  In a few very brief trips to Manitoba I 

 have been able to make additions.  Think of what I could do in a week!


	


Actually the territories above 60 degrees are pretty well covered, although 

I have not been able to find a single unambiguous record for Nunavut. The 

northern half of Quebec (Above Lakes Mistassini and Albenil) has 

essentially no records.  But how do you get there?  It is all muskeg and a 

few float planes taking fishermen in.  And then, there's always Labrador . .

barry.collman(at)air-brit
Guest

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:23 pm Post subject: Palm Tree Airways Ltd

Hi Steve,



I think in Oz, it would probably have been "..... Pty Ltd", (Pty = Proprietary) 

but it's an interesting thought.



I have a feeling that Canada might be nearer the truth, but "Palm Tree Airways 

Ltd" in Canada seems a bit incongruous!



It did spend a while under ownership in Roswell, New Mexico between June 1972 & 

October 1974. Now Palm Trees in Roswell may not be so alien 



I have a gut feeling that the photo is of 1960's vintage, but that'll sure leave 

me wide open for error.



Very Best Regards,

Barry



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steveg(at)nternet.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:03 pm Post subject: Palm Tree Airways Ltd

Barry,



You are most likely right.  A quick check to the charts for Nunavut shows

that the Magnetic North Pole is an hour or so away by piston flight.  Pretty

desolate yet ideal for a Commander.  Palm Tree Airways would be an ideal

tongue in cheek name for marketing awareness.  The Eskimos would have a

field day of jokes with that one.



I will search more as idle time arises.  



Steve G



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BobsV35B(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:12 pm Post subject: Palm Tree Airways Ltd

Good Evening Steve,  



For What It Is Worth, I have a vague memory of a D-18 Twin Beech at  Oshkosh 

four or five years ago that was sporting a painting of a palm tree  on it's 

side and had a name such as Palm Tree Airways.  I am certain it  was, or was 

going to be, based in Australia. Could have been in transit from  Canada to 

Australia!

 

Happy  Skies,



Old Bob

AKA

Bob Siegfried

Ancient Aviator

Stearman  N3977A

Brookeridge Air Park LL22

Downers Grove, IL 60516

630  985-8503



 

In a message dated 4/26/2006 6:04:15 P.M. Central Standard Time,  

steveg(at)nternet.com writes:



Barry,



You are most likely right.  A quick check to the  charts for Nunavut shows

that the Magnetic North Pole is an hour or so away  by piston flight.  Pretty

desolate yet ideal for a Commander.   Palm Tree Airways would be an ideal

tongue in cheek name for marketing  awareness.  The Eskimos would have a

field day of jokes with that  one.



I will search more as idle time arises.  



Steve  G

rlegg(at)austarnet.com.au
Guest

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:20 pm Post subject: Palm Tree Airways Ltd

G'day Sir Barry,



I would be 99% certain that the Straight 680 is not an Ossie one.

The Ltd category is available in Australia.



What a great name for an airline...kind of sounds like it should have 

featured on an episode of Gilligan's Island...something the Millionaire & his 

wife might have flown around in!



Best wishes from Oz



Russell



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		  Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:07:10 +0100

From: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman(at)air-britain.co.uk>  

Subject: Palm Tree Airways Ltd  

To: <commander-list(at)matronics.com>



&gt;--&gt; Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" &
	


lt;barry.collman(at)air-britain.co.uk&gt;

&gt;

&gt;Hi Guys,

&gt;

&gt;I'm currently getting a stack of photos catalogued on to my 

Commander photos 

&gt;database.

&gt;

&gt;One photograph is a shot of a Model 680, N6854S. This is serial 

number 368-54. I 

&gt;am unaware of the date or location.

&gt;

&gt;It has "Palm Tree Airways Ltd" titles on the forward fuselage, but it was 

never 

&gt;registered to such an operator.

&gt;

&gt;Question is, and I know it's a long shot, does anyone know of such an 

operator?

&gt;

&gt;Best Regards,

&gt;Barry C (UK) 

&gt;

&gt;

&gt;

&gt;

&gt;

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&gt;

&gt;

&gt;

&gt; 

&gt; 

&gt; 

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wjrhamilton(at)optusnet.c
Guest

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 6:55 am Post subject: Palm Tree Airways Ltd

Folks,

In Australia, a small ( unlisted) company will have Pty., Ltd after 

the name. Pty is the abbreviation for " Proprietary".



A "public" company, with a sufficient number of shareholders, usually 

listed on a Stock Exchange, is just "Ltd." , Ltd meaning Limited 

Liability in both cases.

Just to confuse the issue, if you didn't understand the law, the 

biggest Australian company for many years ( now BHP Billiton) was BHP 

Ltd, full name Broken Hill Proprietary  Ltd.



All the above should not be confused with Limited appearing on the 

side of an Australian registered aircraft, meaning it has a Part 21 

Limited Category Special Certificate of Airworthiness.



For every rule there is an exception, bar one,  you cannot repeal or 

appeal the law of gravity, as our late then AOPA President found out 

two weeks ago.



Regards,

Bill Hamilton



At 10:19 27/04/2006, you wrote:

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G'day Sir Barry,



I would be 99% certain that the Straight 680 is not an Ossie one.

The Ltd category is available in Australia.



What a great name for an airline...kind of sounds like it should have

featured on an episode of Gilligan's Island...something the Millionaire & his

wife might have flown around in!



Best wishes from Oz



Russell



---- Original message ----

 >Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:07:10 +0100

 >From: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman(at)air-britain.co.uk>

 >Subject: Palm Tree Airways Ltd

 >To: <commander-list(at)matronics.com>

 >

&gt;--&gt; Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" &

lt;barry.collman(at)air-britain.co.uk&gt;

&gt;

&gt;Hi Guys,

&gt;

&gt;I'm currently getting a stack of photos catalogued on to my

Commander photos

&gt;database.

&gt;

&gt;One photograph is a shot of a Model 680, N6854S. This is serial

number 368-54. I

&gt;am unaware of the date or location.

&gt;

&gt;It has "Palm Tree Airways Ltd" titles on the forward fuselage, but it was

never

&gt;registered to such an operator.

&gt;

&gt;Question is, and I know it's a long shot, does anyone know of such an

operator?

&gt;

&gt;Best Regards,

&gt;Barry C (UK)

&gt;

&gt;

&gt;

&gt;

&gt;

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================

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================

&gt;

&gt;

&gt;

&gt;

&gt;

&gt;

&gt;

&gt;

&gt;




	




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nico(at)cybersuperstore.c
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:46 am Post subject: Palm Tree Airways Ltd

I've been out of the loop for a while. Did something happen to Phil Boyer?



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deneals

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:33 am Post subject: Palm Tree Airways Ltd

On 4/27/06 10:42 AM, "css nico" <nico(at)cybersuperstore.com> wrote:



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 I've been out of the loop for a while. Did something happen to Phil Boyer?


	


I'm assuming he meant the head of AOPA Australia

<http://www.aopa.com.au/infocentre/news.cfm>

AirServices CEO Pays Tribute to Ron Bertram

(Date: 04/06/2006)



 MEDIA RELEASE



Vale Ron Bertram - 05/06



Airservices Australia offers its deepest condolences to the family of

Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association President, Ron Bertram who was killed

in a tragic light aircraft accident at Bankstown airport yesterday.



Airservices Chief Executive Officer Greg Russell praised the work Mr Bertram

had done over the past three years since he became a Director and later

President of AOPA.



The association has lost a true reformer and a person dedicated to making

AOPA more relevant and valuable to the aviation industry, he said.



In memory of Ron and as a legacy to his work and role, it is of critical

importance that all of us in the Australian aviation industry continue to

strive to achieve his vision.



He was an active participant and champion for the general aviation

community.



 

Minister Pays Tribute to Ron Bertram

(Date: 04/06/2006)



 MEDIA RELEASE



The Australian Government Minister for Transport and Regional Services,

Warren Truss, has expressed his sympathy to the family and friends of

Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association President, Ron Bertram, who died in

an aircraft accident at Bankstown on Wednesday (5 April).



Mr Truss said Mr Bertram was a passionate advocate for pilots and aircraft

owners on general aviation issues.



"His contribution and practical approach to aviation issues will be missed

by both the government and the aviation industry," Mr Truss said.



"In his role as President of Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association (AOPA),

Mr Bertram was a strong advocate for his members. He worked tirelessly to

bring the views of AOPA to the attention of the government and its agencies.



"He was a constant and much valued participant in the Government's

consultation on aviation security - particularly the anti-theft requirements

for the General Aviation sector, background checking and Aviation Security

Identification Cards for General Aviation pilots," Mr Truss said.



"Ron played a leading role in forging a positive relationship between the

Government and its departments and agencies and the aviation industry. I met

with him at Bankstown only the day before his death to discuss a range of

aviation issues," he said.



"His integrity, balance and high energy will be sadly missed by the

government and the industry," Mr Truss said.



Mr Truss said Mr Bertram's achievements in aviation were substantial.



"He was an experienced pilot with thousands of hours experience. He was an

ultralight instructor who took an energetic interest in the expanding sports

aviation field. He was active in the Air League, encouraging young

Australians to take an interest in aviation.



"On behalf of AOPA, Mr Bertram played a leadership role in the regulatory

reform process for the civil aviation regulations. Under Mr Bertram's

leadership, AOPA has been an active member on the Standards Consultative

Committee as well as a strong lobby group in the development and

implementation of government aviation policy."

wjrhamilton(at)optusnet.c
Guest

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:45 pm Post subject: Palm Tree Airways Ltd

Nico,

It was the President of AOPA Australia.

Regards,

Bill Hamilton



At 01:42 28/04/2006, you wrote:

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I've been out of the loop for a while. Did something happen to Phil Boyer?



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