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Total Messages Posted Wed 07/07/10: 13
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1. 01:24 PM - Door Latch Redux (Les Kearney)
2. 02:25 PM - PlaneAround 180 (retro) latch install with pics (Strasnuts)
3. 02:36 PM - Re: Door Latch Redux (Richard Barnes)
4. 03:36 PM - Re: Door Latch Redux (Carl Froehlich)
5. 04:35 PM - Re: Door Latch Redux (johngoodman)
6. 04:46 PM - Re: Door Latch Redux (Albert Gardner)
7. 05:07 PM - Re: Door Latch Redux (Les Kearney)
8. 05:22 PM - Re: Door Latch Redux (DLM)
9. 05:34 PM - Re: Trying to be Politically correct - 4th of July (johngoodman)
10. 06:57 PM - Re: Door Latch Redux (Pascal)
11. 07:15 PM - Re: Door Latch Redux (nukeflyboy)
12. 07:35 PM - Re: Door Latch Redux (McGann, Ron)
13. 08:40 PM - Re: Door Latch Redux (AirMike)
________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 01:24:03 PM PST US
From: "Les Kearney" <kearney(at)shaw.ca (kearney(at)shaw.ca)>
Subject: Door Latch Redux
Hi
A few weeks back there was a great thread on door latches.
Is there any consensus as to what the best solution is - Sean's latches / 90
or 180 degree etc? Are there other options worth pursuing? I'll assume that
the latches from the iron works at Van's don't make the cut.
Cheers
Les
#40643
________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 02:25:54 PM PST US
Subject: PlaneAround 180 (retro) latch install with pics
From: "Strasnuts" <sean(at)braunandco.com (sean(at)braunandco.com)>
This is Michael Schipper's building site. I just wanted everyone who is thinking
of buying or installing a PlaneAround latch to see a great install that is
well documented.
Here it is:
http://www.rvten.com/finish9.asp
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Cust. #40936
RV-10 SB Fuselage
N801VR reserved
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304087#304087
________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
Time: 02:36:17 PM PST US
From: "Richard Barnes" <rickbarnes(at)highlanddental.com (rickbarnes(at)highlanddental.com)>
Subject: RE: Door Latch Redux
We were able to install the180 degree latches from Sean. If you haven't
painted the outside of the doors, these work really great. The latch cam
engages early, lining up the door frame for the pins, and the door closes
securely. The cam keeps the center of the door tight against the door
frame. I don't know how the door will ever come off when it is latched this
way. The installation was simple too.
Rick
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Les Kearney
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 2:19 PM
Subject: Door Latch Redux
Hi
A few weeks back there was a great thread on door latches.
Is there any consensus as to what the best solution is - Sean's latches / 90
or 180 degree etc? Are there other options worth pursuing? I'll assume that
the latches from the iron works at Van's don't make the cut.
Cheers
Les
#40643
________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
Time: 03:36:35 PM PST US
From: "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich(at)verizon.net (carl.froehlich(at)verizon.net)>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Door Latch Redux
I could not see putting the clunky Van's latch on the airplane. It is just
plain ugly. I installed the 180 degree Plane Around system and recommend it
with caveats and comments:
1. It works as advertised but at $470 for the retrofit kit it is
overpriced. Perhaps some competition will help drive it down to a more
value orientated price.
2. Be very careful not to strip out the threads in the nylon block. I
did and ended up with a less than satisfactory repair by melting some of the
nylon shaving you get fitting the blocks to fill then re-tap the holes.
3. I built up the bottom of the door to be flush across the door sill
and had already finish painted the interior. Being very careful with a
Dremmel Tool I cut a slot for the nylon catch (photos attached). The
placement of the catch ended up slightly below the sill and does not
interfere with getting in or out of the plane.
4. I already had the Rivet Head machined pins and pin blocks so I did
not purchase the ones from Plane Around.
Carl Froehlich
RV-10 (systems install)
RV-8A (550 hrs)
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Les Kearney
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:19 PM
Subject: Door Latch Redux
Hi
A few weeks back there was a great thread on door latches.
Is there any consensus as to what the best solution is - Sean's latches / 90
or 180 degree etc? Are there other options worth pursuing? I'll assume that
the latches from the iron works at Van's don't make the cut.
Cheers
Les
#40643
________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________
Time: 04:35:11 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Door Latch Redux
From: "johngoodman" <johngoodman(at)earthlink.net (johngoodman(at)earthlink.net)>
I'm going with Matt Banks' mod, that Vern Darley used. I haven't seen anything
better yet.
John
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#40572 QB. Working on Cowling & Panel
N711JG reserved
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304105#304105
________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________
Time: 04:46:31 PM PST US
From: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud(at)roadrunner.com (ibspud(at)roadrunner.com)>
Subject: RE: Door Latch Redux
On the other hand:
I don't believe anyone has lost a door when it was installed properly and
then closed properly. The issue seems to be that either the pins do not
penetrate the door frame sufficently to secure it or the sealing material
makes it more difficult to close the door and the pins were not engaged
before flight. I think that if we verify the doors are closed and latched we
would have no problem with the existing latch system.
Albert Gardner
N9914RV
Yuma, Az
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Les Kearney
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 1:19 PM
Subject: Door Latch Redux
Hi
A few weeks back there was a great thread on door latches.
Is there any consensus as to what the best solution is - Sean's latches / 90
or 180 degree etc? Are there other options worth pursuing? I'll assume that
the latches from the iron works at Van's don't make the cut.
Cheers
Les
#40643
________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________
Time: 05:07:11 PM PST US
From: "Les Kearney" <kearney(at)shaw.ca (kearney(at)shaw.ca)>
Subject: RE: Door Latch Redux
Albert
I agree 100% with your post. The problem is, being mere mortals, we will
make mistakes. The question is how often and what are the consequences. If
we can eliminate the risk, so much the better.
Given there have already been so door departures in flight, it would seem
that a little preventative medicine is in order.
Just my $0.02
Cheers
Les
#40643
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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Albert Gardner
Sent: July-07-10 5:45 PM
Subject: RE: Door Latch Redux
On the other hand:
I don't believe anyone has lost a door when it was installed properly and
then closed properly. The issue seems to be that either the pins do not
penetrate the door frame sufficently to secure it or the sealing material
makes it more difficult to close the door and the pins were not engaged
before flight. I think that if we verify the doors are closed and latched we
would have no problem with the existing latch system.
Albert Gardner
N9914RV
Yuma, Az
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Les Kearney
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 1:19 PM
Subject: Door Latch Redux
Hi
A few weeks back there was a great thread on door latches.
Is there any consensus as to what the best solution is - Sean's latches / 90
or 180 degree etc? Are there other options worth pursuing? I'll assume that
the latches from the iron works at Van's don't make the cut.
Cheers
Les
#40643
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________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________
Time: 05:22:30 PM PST US
From: "DLM" <dlm46007(at)cox.net (dlm46007(at)cox.net)>
Subject: Re: Door Latch Redux
Door Latch ReduxMine is the touchy feely system. Touch each pin once
after the doors are closed and touch each pin again before takeoff. I
did remake the pins extra long and cut to length as the location of the
latch gear can alter the required length.
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