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Adrian Coop Cooper

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Location: Vancouver, BC

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:14 pm Post subject: CJ6A serial numbers

Hope some one out there can help me.

I would like to find my serial number on a Nanchang list that specifically states the aircraft is a CJ6A and not the generic CJ6 and also gives the date of manufacture.

Does such a list exist? If so please let me know so that I may access it.

Thanks very much.

Adrian Coop Cooper

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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:11 am Post subject: CJ6A serial numbers

Adrain

What information is on the plate riverted on the fire wall it should 

have date of manufacture on it.



Lou

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 Hope some one out there can help me.

 I would like to find my serial number on a Nanchang list that specifically states the aircraft is a CJ6A and not the generic CJ6 and also gives the date of manufacture.

 Does such a list exist? If so please let me know so that I may access it.

 Thanks very much.

 Adrian Coop Cooper



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cjpilot710(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:41 am Post subject: CJ6A serial numbers

The serial number on you fire wall maybe either 4 digits or 7.

    

   The first 2 digits are the batch number or a group of production airplanes

    

   The last 2 digits are the airplane number in that batch.

    

   If you have 3 digits in the middle, this will be the factory where the aircraft was assembled.

    

   Example 2532059 (my airplane) was the 59th aircraft in batch 25.  The 320 is the factory in Nanchang.

   It was part of a batch of 80 aircraft built between May and November of 1969.

    

   In RPAs 2007 spring issue of Red Alert there a list of all serial number with their dates of manufacture and number of aircraft in that batch.

    

   If your airplane has a 285 hp HS6A engine in it, it is a CJ-6A.  A CJ-6 has the 260 hp engine.  That's the only difference.

    

   Jim "Pappy" Goolsby

 

   

 

 

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k7wx

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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:55 am Post subject: CJ6A serial numbers

Coop,



Here is a picture showing the location of the serial number plate on the firewall. Mine says "83  3932010 " indicating that it was manufactured in 1983 with the serial number  3932010. I have heard that the serial number may contain other manufacturing information. Perhaps someone on the list may know how to decode it for you. 



A CJ-6 has the 260 HP Housai and the CJ-6A has the 285 HP version.  A CJ-6 would be an older aircraft, probably from the early to mid 1960s. I know that the 285 HP Housai started being used around the mid-1960s. 



Warren Hill



On Jul 20, 2010, at 11:14 PM, Adrian Coop Cooper wrote:



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 Hope some one out there can help me.

 I would like to find my serial number on a Nanchang list that specifically states the aircraft is a CJ6A and not the generic CJ6 and also gives the date of manufacture.

 Does such a list exist? If so please let me know so that I may access it.

 Thanks very much.

 Adrian Coop Cooper

 

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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:33 am Post subject: CJ6A serial numbers

Warren, 

    

   Your airplane was assembled at the Nanchang factory.  It was #10 in batch 39 which had 24 aircraft, built between Oct 1983 and May 1984.  All 24 aircraft were sent to the PLAF.

    

   At one point both the CJ-6 and CJ-6A were on the production line at the same time.  It just depended on which engine they would put in them.  You're correct about the early ones being CJ-6s.  At some point in their life, some CJ-6s were made into 6As with an engine change. 

    

   There were other variants too, modified for special purposes.  The CJ-6B was a armed version of an A.  Only 10 were built.  There several others too.

    

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k7wx

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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:48 am Post subject: CJ6A serial numbers

Pappy,



Thanks for decoding my serial number. Nice to know this extra information. 

Warren





 

On Jul 21, 2010, at 6:26 AM, cjpilot710(at)aol.com (cjpilot710(at)aol.com) wrote:

[quote] Warren, 

    

   Your airplane was assembled at the Nanchang factory.  It was #10 in batch 39 which had 24 aircraft, built between Oct 1983 and May 1984.  All 24 aircraft were sent to the PLAF.

    

   At one point both the CJ-6 and CJ-6A were on the production line at the same time.  It just depended on which engine they would put in them.  You're correct about the early ones being CJ-6s.  At some point in their life, some CJ-6s were made into 6As with an engine change. 

    

   There were other variants too, modified for special purposes.  The CJ-6B was a armed version of an A.  Only 10 were built.  There several others too.

    

   Jim "Pappy" Goolsby

 

 

   

 

 

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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:21 am Post subject: CJ6A serial numbers

Could someone please say what the data plate on a Huosai  engine would 

 say for 285 or 260 hp ? Thanks.

  

 David Stroud     Ottawa, Canada

Christavia  C-FDWS

Fairchild 51 replica

under  construction C-FYXV

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k7wx

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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:23 am Post subject: CJ6A serial numbers

David,



The 260 HP is a Housai HS-6. The 285 HP Housai is a HS-6A.

Warren

 

On Jul 21, 2010, at 7:17 AM, DAVID STROUD wrote:

[quote]Could someone please say what the data plate on a Huosai engine would

say for 285 or 260 hp ? Thanks.

 

David Stroud     Ottawa, Canada

Christavia C-FDWS

Fairchild 51 replica

under  construction C-FYXV

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dstroud(at)xplornet.com
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:44 am Post subject: CJ6A serial numbers

Thanks for that, Warren. The data plate has a 6 embossed  on it and right

 beside the 6 is an unintelligible symbol stamped in a  little square box all

 followed by the long serial number. Likely I've only got  260 hp then ? 

  

 David Stroud     Ottawa, Canada

Christavia  C-FDWS

Fairchild 51 replica

under  construction C-FYXV

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k7wx

Joined: 24 May 2010
Posts: 117

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:00 am Post subject: CJ6A serial numbers

One of the more experienced CJ-savvy guys may be able to give you guidance. 

 

On Jul 21, 2010, at 8:43 AM, DAVID STROUD wrote:

[quote]Thanks for that, Warren. The data plate has a 6 embossed on it and right

beside the 6 is an unintelligible symbol stamped in a little square box all

followed by the long serial number. Likely I've only got 260 hp then ?

 

David Stroud     Ottawa, Canada

Christavia C-FDWS

Fairchild 51 replica

under  construction C-FYXV

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wlannon(at)persona.ca
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:53 am Post subject: CJ6A serial numbers

David;

 You probably have an HS6A.  The unintelligable  symbol is likely Chinese for "A".

 Check the carburettor part # : QHQ-14 for the  HS6,  QHQ-14A for the HS6A (same symbol ?)

  

 Walt  

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Adrian Coop Cooper

Joined: 02 Feb 2010
Posts: 37
Location: Vancouver, BC

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:07 am Post subject: Re: CJ6A serial numbers

Thank you all for responding.

I needed this to prove to Transport Canada that this was indeed a CJ-6A as all my Chinese correspondence and papers referred only to the generic CJ-6, and I need the airplane registered as a CJ-6A. 

 

So a cautionary tale might be to always translate your serial number as explained by Pappy. Get the manufacturing date off of the Red Alert archives and explain that the manufacturing date and the 285 hp engine insist that this is therefor a 6A.



Thanks again.

Coop.

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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:50 am Post subject: CJ6A serial numbers

Another way to tell a HS-6 from a HS-6A is remove a top cylinder rocker box cover.  If it has grease in it, its a 260 hp HS-6.  If its oiled than its a 285 hp HS-6A.

    

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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:14 am Post subject: CJ6A serial numbers

You have to careful about shipping papers between countries.  My airplane was listed as a Yak 18A on all its customs documentation.  Bureaucrats are notorious for making such mistakes.  And for a long time I thought it was just a copy of the Russian airplane.  But the history and people behind the design CJ-6 is far more interesting.

    

   I only wish I could find detailed photos of the production line while it was going full tilt.  At one point a CJ-6 was coming off the line every 3 days.

    

    

   Pappy

   

 

  

   

 

 

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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:34 pm Post subject: CJ6A serial numbers

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. :^))  

Doc  

     

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You have to careful about shipping papers between countries.  My airplane was listed as a Yak 18A on all its customs documentation.  Bureaucrats are notorious for making such mistakes.  And for a long time I thought it was just a copy of the Russian airplane.  But the history and people behind the design CJ-6 is far more interesting.  

    

   

    

I only wish I could find detailed photos of the production line while it was going full tilt.  At one point a CJ-6 was coming off the line every 3 days.  

    

   

    

   

    

Pappy  

    



 

    

  

     

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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:31 pm Post subject: CJ6A serial numbers

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dstroud(at)xplornet.com
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:51 pm Post subject: CJ6A serial numbers

Thanks to all for the help in my 260/285 hp question. Mine  is 285 ( whew....). Also, I've 

 got a mag coming up to convert to electronic and will  offer my findings when available.

  

 David Stroud     Ottawa,  Canada

Christavia C-FDWS

Fairchild 51 replica

under  construction  C-FYXV

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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:35 pm Post subject: CJ6A serial numbers

Also of note a 260 hp cyl should not be used on a 285 hp engine, but the reverse is OK.  This from a Chinese mech.  Parts book alludes to this via a serial/batch number spread but is not very specific.



Doug

 

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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:35 pm Post subject: CJ6A serial numbers

HS6 is 260 hp, HS6A is 285 hp so I have been told.



Doug



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CJcanuck

Joined: 05 Jul 2006
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:42 pm Post subject: Re: CJ6A serial numbers

If factory code '320' is the factory in Nanchang, does anyone know where factory '512' was located?

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