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ssssskippy
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Hi
As you should know, the standard Russian headsets are horrible!
I would like to plug my GA Headsets on the plane but I would prefer to keep
the original Russian plugs on the plane. So I need to build an adaptor to go
from Russian (5 pins)to western audio plugs.
Has someone the picture of the wiring I have to make to achieve this
adaptor?
Are the wires colors standards?
Thank's
Olivier
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:00 am Post subject: how to wire a russian plug to a GA jack 1/4" plug? |
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Salut Olive,
FELICITATION.
Tu entre de plain pied dans le mondes des propriétaires d'avion russe.
Bon je serais avec toi si tu as des problèmes donc en cas de doutes n'hésite surtout pas à m'écrire ou a m'appeler. Pour n'importe quelle question. Il vaut mieux me passer un petit coup de fil que d'abimer un élément donc n'hésite pas.
Je pense que déjà tu as bien compris que brasser est important. Même après une demie heure d'arrêt. Mais seulement si la température des cylindres est en dessous des 100 degrés critiques.
Pour ton casque, les branchements sont standards donc tu peux soit les remplacer (ce que je te conseillerais), soit faire un adaptateur.
Un jeune stagiaire électricien chez nous, les a changés en 15mn sur le 52 de mon ami Dominique en câblant une petite boite au standard américain avec les branchements d'origine russes scratché sur le côté de l'avion. Cela permet de revenir en arrière si l'on souhaite....même si c'est inutile. On ne reviens pas sur des casques originaux, ils sont pourris.
Donc n'hésite surtout pas à poser des questions, et encore une fois un tres grans BRAVO, tu kiffe grave et ça vas continuer.
Un autre gars qu'il faudra que je te fasse connaitre c'est Jan Mevis à Namur (tu le vois sur la liste). Un gars très sympa et qui connais très bien les Yaks. J'aime beaucoup et en plus il est très serviable.
Pour ma part je suis toujours à Hydra en Grèce et je rentre lundi prochain.
D'ici là, bons vols et à bientôt
Didier
2010/7/29 ssssskippy <ssssskippy(at)gmail.com (ssssskippy(at)gmail.com)>
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Hi
As you should know, the standard Russian headsets are horrible!
I would like to plug my GA Headsets on the plane but I would prefer to keep
the original Russian plugs on the plane. So I need to build an adaptor to go
from Russian (5 pins)to western audio plugs.
Has someone the picture of the wiring I have to make to achieve this
adaptor?
Are the wires colors standards?
Thank's
Olivier
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:51 am Post subject: how to wire a russian plug to a GA jack 1/4" plug? |
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You will be much better off installing the standard GA headphone and mic jacks.
Dennis
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:10 am Post subject: how to wire a Russian plug to a GA jack 1/4" plug? |
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Sssskippy,
You would best be served to call Termikus in Lithuania for that advise. The
wires are color standard for the Eastern EU..white with Cyrillic letters and
numbers on their ends.
Doc
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:12 am Post subject: how to wire a russian plug to a GA jack 1/4" plug? |
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Well..that about answers it.
Doc
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Salut Olive,
FELICITATION.
Tu entre de plain pied dans le mondes des propriétaires d'avion russe.
Bon je serais avec toi si tu as des problèmes donc en cas de doutes n'hésite surtout pas à m'écrire ou a m'appeler. Pour n'importe quelle question. Il vaut mieux me passer un petit coup de fil que d'abimer un élément donc n'hésite pas.
Je pense que déjà tu as bien compris que brasser est important. Même après une demie heure d'arrêt. Mais seulement si la température des cylindres est en dessous des 100 degrés critiques.
Pour ton casque, les branchements sont standards donc tu peux soit les remplacer (ce que je te conseillerais), soit faire un adaptateur.
Un jeune stagiaire électricien chez nous, les a changés en 15mn sur le 52 de mon ami Dominique en câblant une petite boite au standard américain avec les branchements d'origine russes scratché sur le côté de l'avion. Cela permet de revenir en arrière si l'on souhaite....même si c'est inutile. On ne reviens pas sur des casques originaux, ils sont pourris.
Donc n'hésite surtout pas à poser des questions, et encore une fois un tres grans BRAVO, tu kiffe grave et ça vas continuer.
Un autre gars qu'il faudra que je te fasse connaitre c'est Jan Mevis à Namur (tu le vois sur la liste). Un gars très sympa et qui connais très bien les Yaks. J'aime beaucoup et en plus il est très serviable.
Pour ma part je suis toujours à Hydra en Grèce et je rentre lundi prochain.
D'ici là, bons vols et à bientôt
Didier
2010/7/29 ssssskippy <ssssskippy(at)gmail.com (ssssskippy(at)gmail.com)>
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Hi
As you should know, the standard Russian headsets are horrible!
I would like to plug my GA Headsets on the plane but I would prefer to keep
the original Russian plugs on the plane. So I need to build an adaptor to go
from Russian (5 pins)to western audio plugs.
Has someone the picture of the wiring I have to make to achieve this
adaptor?
Are the wires colors standards?
Thank's
Olivier
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ssssskippy
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:38 am Post subject: how to wire a Russian plug to a GA jack 1/4" plug? |
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thank's, I'll do that!
Olivier
2010/7/29 Roger Kemp M.D. <viperdoc(at)mindspring.com (viperdoc(at)mindspring.com)>
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Sssskippy,
You would best be served to call Termikus in Lithuania for that advise. The
wires are color standard for the Eastern EU..white with Cyrillic letters and
numbers on their ends.
Doc
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:54 am Post subject: how to wire a Russian plug to a GA jack 1/4" plug? |
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Termikas is on holiday until after 9 August. Although they will most likely have the wiring conversion information, Termikas typically installs the standard GA headphone and mike jacks in the airplanes they overhaul.
Dennis
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:38 am Post subject: how to wire a russian plug to a GA jack 1/4" plug? |
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good advice!
thanks
2010/7/29 John Fischer <fish(at)aviation-tech.com (fish(at)aviation-tech.com)>
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Lawndart,
I would recommend getting a conversion that uses the military one connection plug.
The reason for that is if you decide you need to get out of the plane in flight(since we carry parachutes), it is much easier.
If you forget to disconnect, the plug will come out on its own, and not pull you back into the cockpit by your head.
Laterrrrrr
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:00 am Post subject: how to wire a russian plug to a GA jack 1/4" plug? |
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There are pigtail adapters to go from GA jacks to the U-92 military jack. That way you can use both GA headsets AND the military plug/jack in the cockpits.
Dennis
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| Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 4:06 pm Post subject: how to wire a russian plug to a GA jack 1/4" plug? |
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If anyone really cares, I have done both. I have the standard General Aviation microphone and headphone jacks so I can plug in a David Clark headset with ease, and I also ha
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Subject: Re: how to wire a russian plug to a GA jack 1/4" plug?
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You will be much better off installing the standard GA headphone and mic jacks.
Dennis
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If anyone really cares, I have done both. I have the standard General Aviation microphone and headphone jacks so I can plug in a David Clark headset with ease, and I also have put in a standard military helicopter connector as has been described here. Basically the two are in parallel so that I can use either.
Be wary of military headsets (U.S. Military anyway) due to the fact that they are the wrong impedence for the Russian Radios. There are in fact “adapter cords†that allow their use if anyone wants details, I will send them to anyone interested. Rob Rowe has also done a lot of investigation on this issue, and I suggest that anyone interested contact him directly, especially for Balkan 5 model radios used in the 52.
As to bailing out: Having worked with both of these connector sets for most of my life, I have to say that there is not going to be much difference. Yes, I do agree that having just one connector makes it easier to disconnect versus two, the fact is that pulling that ONE connector out of the socket takes a considerable amount of force. The smartest course of action is to simply take your headset OFF before bailing out. If the situation does not allow that, it will more than likely just be yanked off your head anyway. I can tell you from personal experience that if you use a standard headset and try some inverted spins, the dang thing just flies off your head so fast your would not believe it, and then manages to disappear into parts unknown. That is why you should wear a cranial cloth that mounts the headset and then with a strap under your chin holds it on. THEN you will not pull it off your head, but will instead pull the plug out of the socket. Believe me, that small wire cord is not going to keep you in the cockpit when 200 pounds of human being decides to bail out, whether it be one plug or two.
Unless you are competing in serious IAC competitions, this issue is getting to be a little over the top, just my 2 cents. I’d like to ask.. just how many of us are doing that? How many of us are flying YAK-52’s, YAK-50’s, CJ-6A’s in IAC boxes and doing actual competition? My guess is not many. Most of the folks here are doing formation Red Star events, so how many plugs are on the headsets is just too much over the top.
Mark Bitterlich
p.s. As to figuring out which wire goes where... there are two wires for the headset and two for the microphone.
Microphone audio has voltage on it when you key the radio. Use a meter. Key the radio. Measure for voltage on one of the wires. That will be microphone hot. Microphone ground is a ground. Use a meter.
Headset audio are the other two wires. Tune in ASOS and put the meter to AC and look for a voltage. Failing that, go to a store like Lowes, and look for their Telephone Tracker combo. It has an inductive pickup probe that will HEAR the audio as you connect it to the headset audio wire. It's a nice piece of test equipment to have around. About $70 for the tone tracker and inductive pickup probe.
The mike ground and the headset ground wire basically go to the same grounding point. But if you want to be perfect, use the inductive probe to figure out the details.
Failing that, hire an Avionics Tech.
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Subject: Re: how to wire a russian plug to a GA jack 1/4" plug?
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You will be much better off installing the standard GA headphone and mic jacks.
Dennis
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ssssskippy
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| Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:53 pm Post subject: how to wire a russian plug to a GA jack 1/4" plug? |
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Hi all
So , for the European pilots, I bought this adaptors : http://www.czechpilotgroup.com/detail/pj_zsh.jpg here: http://www.czechpilotgroup.com/ .
Very quick delivery, a mug as a gift J.
I am very happy to leave in the locker those awful Russian headsets! The adaptors, with good quality headsets, give me such a wonderful comfort! Lovely!!!!
Thanks for all your advises!
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You will be much better off installing the standard GA headphone and mic jacks.
Dennis
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