Matronics Email Lists Forum Index Matronics Email Lists
Web Forum Interface to the Matronics Email Lists
 
 Get Email Distribution Too!Get Email Distribution Too!    FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

B&C alt voltage goes right up to 16V

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Matronics Email Lists Forum Index -> AeroElectric-List
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
sblack



Joined: 14 Aug 2010
Posts: 21

PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 7:23 pm    Post subject: B&C alt voltage goes right up to 16V Reply with quote

I installed a b&c alt on an o200 with the PMR1C-14. After about 10 hrs on it with no problems one morning, after the airplane sat out in the rain, the voltage started going right up to 16V at takeoff power tripping the crowbar OV protection. The reg. is mounted on the firewall with the wires exiting downwards. I do see how water could have gotten into it. I have not played with the setpoint since it was working fine at the beginning (stayed just under 14v) so it should not have changed. My battery acts fine, takes a charge in a reasonable amount of time and my volt meter is correct as I checked it with another and the crowbar goes off and just the right voltage. What could cause this? For what it's worth I draw about 3amps from my panel as I have no lights and not much in the way of avionics. Any advice appreciated.

Scott


- The Matronics AeroElectric-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List

_________________
Scott Black
Montreal
Jodel F11 O-200
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
user9253



Joined: 28 Mar 2008
Posts: 1927
Location: Riley TWP Michigan

PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:39 am    Post subject: Re: B&C alt voltage goes right up to 16V Reply with quote

You confirmed that there is indeed an over-voltage condition. The voltage regulator is not doing its job, for whatever reason. The rain may or may not be a factor. Perhaps the regulator got too hot at some point. If you can not adjust the output voltage to within normal range, then the voltage regulator should be replaced.
Joe


- The Matronics AeroElectric-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List

_________________
Joe Gores
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
user9253



Joined: 28 Mar 2008
Posts: 1927
Location: Riley TWP Michigan

PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:19 am    Post subject: Re: B&C alt voltage goes right up to 16V Reply with quote

There is another possibility, depending on where in the circuit the voltage regulator measures the voltage. If there is a high resistance in the field circuit, the regulator might be seeing a lower voltage than is at the main bus. In that case, the regulator would tell the alternator to put out more. Make sure that all of the connections in the electrical system are secure, especially in the regulator sense and field circuits.
Joe


- The Matronics AeroElectric-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List

_________________
Joe Gores
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
sblack



Joined: 14 Aug 2010
Posts: 21

PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:00 am    Post subject: Re: B&C alt voltage goes right up to 16V Reply with quote

I apologize Joe, I did not provide enough detail. There is an overvoltage condition and the OV circuit does its job and takes the alternator off line at 16V. I have verified that the indicated voltage is correct. Also, it is a permanent magnet alternator (B&C G200) so there is no field winding.

Basically when I start up, at idle the voltage sits around 12V and when I do my runup it just starts climbing, gradually. I have to let it run at 1500 rpm for say a minute, or start the takeoff run (in which case it climbs faster) and then POP, off goes the OV.

thanks

Scott


- The Matronics AeroElectric-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List

_________________
Scott Black
Montreal
Jodel F11 O-200
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
user9253



Joined: 28 Mar 2008
Posts: 1927
Location: Riley TWP Michigan

PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:19 pm    Post subject: Re: B&C alt voltage goes right up to 16V Reply with quote

Quote:
I have not played with the setpoint since it was working fine at the beginning

Scott,
I got the impression from your first posting that the regulator has a set point adjustment. If the connections are all good and you are sure that there is no rain water in the regulator or connectors, then I would try adjusting the regulator. If that does not work, then replace the regulator. If the regulator "sense" terminal is seeing the actual bus voltage but still allows the alternator to put out more than 14.5 volts, then the regulator is not doing its job. Regulators installed in a high ambient temperature location will have a shorter life expectancy.
It is a good thing that there is over-voltage protection. Some electronics can be damaged by high voltage.
Joe


- The Matronics AeroElectric-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List

_________________
Joe Gores
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Matronics Email Lists Forum Index -> AeroElectric-List All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group