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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:39 am    Post subject: Icom A210/A200 owners Reply with quote

Hello List,
 
  I'm getting very close to hooking up all the components to my instrument panel,
and I'd sure like some advice regarding my Icom A200., to be put into the 2-place
plane I'm building.
 
  I have a SoftComm International ATC-2 potable intercom that I got for my plane
years ago.  I also have a Icom A200 (mobile style).  Basically, it the same a the regular
A200, it's just that it comes more like a CB radio; attched mic via a coiled cord, speaker
that pluds into a 3mm plug recepticle, hot/grnd leads for power.
 
  Anyway, back to my question;  For those guys that have experience with the built-in
intercom function of the Icom radios, would you say that that alone is sufficient (for a 2-place),
or is the intercom part "lacking", and in need of a separate dedicated intercom?
 
  Frankly, if the concensus is that the Icom is up to the task, I'd rather just go ahead and
install a couple of jacks and be done with it. (the intercom part, I mean)
 
  So, wuddaya think of the Icom intercom??
 
Thanks,  Mike Welch
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:59 am    Post subject: Icom A210/A200 owners Reply with quote

Sheesh, I should proof-read more.  Overlook the typos.  Thanks, Mike
 
From: mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com
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Subject: Icom A210/A200 owners
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 09:25:32 -0700

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  I'm getting very close to hooking up all the components to my instrument panel,
and I'd sure like some advice regarding my Icom A200., to be put into the 2-place
plane I'm building.
 
  I have a SoftComm International ATC-2 potable intercom that I got for my plane
years ago.  I also have a Icom A200 (mobile style).  Basically, it the same a the regular
A200, it's just that it comes more like a CB radio; attched mic via a coiled cord, speaker
that pluds into a 3mm plug recepticle, hot/grnd leads for power.
 
  Anyway, back to my question;  For those guys that have experience with the built-in
intercom function of the Icom radios, would you say that that alone is sufficient (for a 2-place),
or is the intercom part "lacking", and in need of a separate dedicated intercom?
 
  Frankly, if the concensus is that the Icom is up to the task, I'd rather just go ahead and
install a couple of jacks and be done with it. (the intercom part, I mean)
 
  So, wuddaya think of the Icom intercom??
 
Thanks,  Mike Welch
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:25 am    Post subject: Icom A210/A200 owners Reply with quote

Not related to the intercom but....
I put a A-200 in my experimental and can say it is a great unit. Clear, long range and easy to use.
The one BIG drawback to it was the display is not easy to read unless I turn on my nav lights, which I wired to the internal lighting on the A-200, thinking I would only need radio lighting on when I needed nav lights. WRONG.... The display is too dim for me to see in normal conditions, I don't want to cut into my harness I made to add a splice so I removed the radio out of the can and looked inside to see if I could jumper the lights that way.. Not a easy deal.
I would suggest you wire the internal radio light to stay on all the time.
Just my opinion.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:44 am    Post subject: Icom A210/A200 owners Reply with quote

Thanks Ben, I'll be sure to do that.
 
Regarding the value of using the Icom's intercom, anybody?       Anybody??
 
Thanks,  Mike
 
From: n801bh(at)netzero.com
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:12:03 +0000
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Icom A210/A200 owners

Not related to the intercom but....
I put a A-200 in my experimental and can say it is a great unit. Clear, long range and easy to use.
The one BIG drawback to it was the display is not easy to read unless I turn on my nav lights, which I wired to the internal lighting on the A-200, thinking I would only need radio lighting on when I needed nav lights.  WRONG.... The display is too dim for me to see in normal conditions, I don't want to cut into my harness I made to add a splice so I removed the radio out of the can and looked inside to see if I could jumper the lights that way.. Not a easy deal.
I would suggest you wire the internal radio light to stay on all the time.
Just my opinion.
do not archive.
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:15 am    Post subject: Re: Icom A210/A200 owners Reply with quote

Mike,

The A200 intercom function has been criticized by many, including Stein Bruch in print and in forums. Most of the criticism centered around the A200 not being a voice activated intercom system. A separate broadcast/intercom switch needs to be mounted and you have to select one or the other and then activate the PTT switch to communicate.

I combined my A200 with a PS Engineering PM-501 intercom and it works great. I really like my A200 and have gotten compliments on how clear the transmission sounds in the air. On the ground, though, i have been told that it is not quite so clear.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:57 am    Post subject: Icom A210/A200 owners Reply with quote

> The A200 intercom function has been criticized by many> --------
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Thanks, Dave.
 
  I get the impression this opionion about the Icom's intercom is fairly common.
 
  I guess I'll go ahead and plan on the Softcomm intercom.  Thanks.
 
Mike Welch
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 5:59 am    Post subject: Icom A210/A200 owners Reply with quote

I have an A210 and intend to use the intercom, but it's not yet functioning.  I have the wires installed, but I've not had a passenger lately, so finishing it is a low priority right now.

Sam

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com (mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:
[quote] Thanks Ben, I'll be sure to do that.
 
Regarding the value of using the Icom's intercom, anybody?       Anybody??
 
Thanks,  Mike
 
From: n801bh(at)netzero.com (n801bh(at)netzero.com)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:12:03 +0000
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com (aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com)

Subject: Re: Icom A210/A200 owners
Not related to the intercom but....
I put a A-200 in my experimental and can say it is a great unit. Clear, long range and easy to use.
The one BIG drawback to it was the display is not easy to read unless I turn on my nav lights, which I wired to the internal lighting on the A-200, thinking I would only need radio lighting on when I needed nav lights.  WRONG.... The display is too dim for me to see in normal conditions, I don't want to cut into my harness I made to add a splice so I removed the radio out of the can and looked inside to see if I could jumper the lights that way.. Not a easy deal.
I would suggest you wire the internal radio light to stay on all the time.
Just my opinion.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:39 am    Post subject: Icom A210/A200 owners Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply, Sam.
 
Shoot!!  I'm still undecided.  I've had a couple of good responses, but about the time I think
I've got a direction, I get a new email, and then rethink my choice.
 
Considering my noisy cockpit environment, using the PTT wiring, Icom internal method seems
to be the best route, I guess.
 
Thanks again, Sam.
 
Mike Welch 
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 08:56:43 -0500
Subject: Re: Icom A210/A200 owners
From: sam.hoskins(at)gmail.com
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com

I have an A210 and intend to use the intercom, but it's not yet functioning.  I have the wires installed, but I've not had a passenger lately, so finishing it is a low priority right now.

Sam

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com (mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:
[quote] Thanks Ben, I'll be sure to do that.
 
Regarding the value of using the Icom's intercom, anybody?       Anybody??
 
Thanks,  Mike
 
From: n801bh(at)netzero.com (n801bh(at)netzero.com)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:12:03 +0000
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com (aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com)

Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Icom A210/A200 owners


Not related to the intercom but....
I put a A-200 in my experimental and can say it is a great unit. Clear, long range and easy to use.
The one BIG drawback to it was the display is not easy to read unless I turn on my nav lights, which I wired to the internal lighting on the A-200, thinking I would only need radio lighting on when I needed nav lights.  WRONG.... The display is too dim for me to see in normal conditions, I don't want to cut into my harness I made to add a splice so I removed the radio out of the can and looked inside to see if I could jumper the lights that way.. Not a easy deal.
I would suggest you wire the internal radio light to stay on all the time.
Just my opinion.
do not archive.
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:37 am    Post subject: Icom A210/A200 owners Reply with quote

Hi Mike,

FWIW, I’d encourage you to just put in the external intercom and be done with it. The internal intercom of the 200’s is barely what anyone would call a functioning and usable intercom. I won’t bore you with the details, but suffice to say our experience has been that almost any intercom is many times superior to the internal one for many reasons. BTW, the 200 is indeed a great little radio, just not a very good intercom!

My 2 cents as usual….

Cheers,

Stein


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Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 9:38 AM
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Subject: RE: Icom A210/A200 owners



Thanks for the reply, Sam.

Shoot!! I'm still undecided. I've had a couple of good responses, but about the time I think
I've got a direction, I get a new email, and then rethink my choice.

Considering my noisy cockpit environment, using the PTT wiring, Icom internal method seems
to be the best route, I guess.

Thanks again, Sam.

Mike Welch

Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 08:56:43 -0500
Subject: Re: Icom A210/A200 owners
From: sam.hoskins(at)gmail.com
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com

I have an A210 and intend to use the intercom, but it's not yet functioning. I have the wires installed, but I've not had a passenger lately, so finishing it is a low priority right now.


Sam


On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com (mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:
Thanks Ben, I'll be sure to do that.

Regarding the value of using the Icom's intercom, anybody? Anybody??

Thanks, Mike


From: n801bh(at)netzero.com (n801bh(at)netzero.com)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:12:03 +0000

To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com (aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com)

Subject: Re: Icom A210/A200 owners


Not related to the intercom but....
I put a A-200 in my experimental and can say it is a great unit. Clear, long range and easy to use.
The one BIG drawback to it was the display is not easy to read unless I turn on my nav lights, which I wired to the internal lighting on the A-200, thinking I would only need radio lighting on when I needed nav lights. WRONG.... The display is too dim for me to see in normal conditions, I don't want to cut into my harness I made to add a splice so I removed the radio out of the can and looked inside to see if I could jumper the lights that way.. Not a easy deal.
I would suggest you wire the internal radio light to stay on all the time.
Just my opinion.
do not archive.


Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:15 am    Post subject: Icom A210/A200 owners Reply with quote

Stein,
 
  Thanks.  That does it, then.  I'll just go with my Softcomm intercom.
 
  Maybe I might need a pointer or two hooking it up.  I'm hoping I can get
it working, but .......
 
  Is there a way of hooking up the Softcomm intercom with the Icom A200, and
NOT be an open mic arrangement?  I expect the cockpit noise will be "fairly
high", and it is my understanding that if each person pushed a button everytime
they wanted to say something, it would be much less annoying.
 
Or is it not worth it to hook up the PTT design, and simply adjust the squelch
to handle a loud cockpit.
 
Mike Welch
 
From: stein(at)steinair.com
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Icom A210/A200 owners
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 10:27:15 -0500

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Hi Mike,
 
FWIW, I’d encourage you to just put in the external intercom and be done with it.  The internal intercom of the 200’s is barely what anyone would call a functioning and usable intercom.  I won’t bore you with the details, but suffice to say our experience has been that almost any intercom is many times superior to the internal one for many reasons.  BTW, the 200 is indeed a great little radio, just not a very good intercom!
 
My 2 cents as usual….
 
Cheers,
 
Stein

 
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Welch
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 9:38 AM
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Icom A210/A200 owners


 
Thanks for the reply, Sam.
 
Shoot!!  I'm still undecided.  I've had a couple of good responses, but about the time I think
I've got a direction, I get a new email, and then rethink my choice.
 
Considering my noisy cockpit environment, using the PTT wiring, Icom internal method seems
to be the best route, I guess.
 
Thanks again, Sam.
 
Mike Welch 

Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 08:56:43 -0500
Subject: Re: Icom A210/A200 owners
From: sam.hoskins(at)gmail.com
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com

I have an A210 and intend to use the intercom, but it's not yet functioning.  I have the wires installed, but I've not had a passenger lately, so finishing it is a low priority right now.
 

Sam

 
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com (mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:
Thanks Ben, I'll be sure to do that.
 
Regarding the value of using the Icom's intercom, anybody?       Anybody??
 
Thanks,  Mike
 

From: n801bh(at)netzero.com (n801bh(at)netzero.com)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:12:03 +0000

To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com (aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com)

Subject: Re: Icom A210/A200 owners
Not related to the intercom but....
I put a A-200 in my experimental and can say it is a great unit. Clear, long range and easy to use.
The one BIG drawback to it was the display is not easy to read unless I turn on my nav lights, which I wired to the internal lighting on the A-200, thinking I would only need radio lighting on when I needed nav lights.  WRONG.... The display is too dim for me to see in normal conditions, I don't want to cut into my harness I made to add a splice so I removed the radio out of the can and looked inside to see if I could jumper the lights that way.. Not a easy deal.
I would suggest you wire the internal radio light to stay on all the time.
Just my opinion.
do not archive.
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:46 am    Post subject: Icom A210/A200 owners Reply with quote

Hi Mike,

I didn’t catch what kind of plane? If it’s an RV or similar the standard softcomm wired as per the manual will be just fine. No need for separate “Push to Intercom” switches. Honestly I’d avoid them anyway. With the exception of a very few warbirds and the occasional helicopter, we’ve rarely seen the need for those to be installed. It’s actually not fun to use one of those systems, it’s akin to using a walkie talkie and trying to have a conversation....

My 2 cents as usual!

Cheers,

Stein


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Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 11:12 AM
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Icom A210/A200 owners



Stein,

Thanks. That does it, then. I'll just go with my Softcomm intercom.

Maybe I might need a pointer or two hooking it up. I'm hoping I can get
it working, but .......

Is there a way of hooking up the Softcomm intercom with the Icom A200, and
NOT be an open mic arrangement? I expect the cockpit noise will be "fairly
high", and it is my understanding that if each person pushed a button everytime
they wanted to say something, it would be much less annoying.

Or is it not worth it to hook up the PTT design, and simply adjust the squelch
to handle a loud cockpit.

Mike Welch


From: stein(at)steinair.com
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Icom A210/A200 owners
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 10:27:15 -0500
Hi Mike,

FWIW, I’d encourage you to just put in the external intercom and be done with it. The internal intercom of the 200’s is barely what anyone would call a functioning and usable intercom. I won’t bore you with the details, but suffice to say our experience has been that almost any intercom is many times superior to the internal one for many reasons. BTW, the 200 is indeed a great little radio, just not a very good intercom!

My 2 cents as usual….

Cheers,

Stein


From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Welch
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 9:38 AM
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Icom A210/A200 owners



Thanks for the reply, Sam.

Shoot!! I'm still undecided. I've had a couple of good responses, but about the time I think
I've got a direction, I get a new email, and then rethink my choice.

Considering my noisy cockpit environment, using the PTT wiring, Icom internal method seems
to be the best route, I guess.

Thanks again, Sam.

Mike Welch

Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 08:56:43 -0500
Subject: Re: Icom A210/A200 owners
From: sam.hoskins(at)gmail.com
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com

I have an A210 and intend to use the intercom, but it's not yet functioning. I have the wires installed, but I've not had a passenger lately, so finishing it is a low priority right now.


Sam


On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com (mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:
Thanks Ben, I'll be sure to do that.

Regarding the value of using the Icom's intercom, anybody? Anybody??

Thanks, Mike


From: n801bh(at)netzero.com (n801bh(at)netzero.com)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:12:03 +0000

To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com (aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com)

Subject: Re: Icom A210/A200 owners


Not related to the intercom but....
I put a A-200 in my experimental and can say it is a great unit. Clear, long range and easy to use.
The one BIG drawback to it was the display is not easy to read unless I turn on my nav lights, which I wired to the internal lighting on the A-200, thinking I would only need radio lighting on when I needed nav lights. WRONG.... The display is too dim for me to see in normal conditions, I don't want to cut into my harness I made to add a splice so I removed the radio out of the can and looked inside to see if I could jumper the lights that way.. Not a easy deal.
I would suggest you wire the internal radio light to stay on all the time.
Just my opinion.
do not archive.


Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:38 am    Post subject: Icom A210/A200 owners Reply with quote

Hi Stein,
 
  I'm building a Kolb MkIII.  My engine is a GEO Metro (yeah, from the car)1.0 liter, with a turbo
and muffler.  Because of my exhaust system, I expect my engine/prop will be more quieter than
most of the other MkIII's, but that's only conjecture, at this point.  Hopefully, I should know in about
a month.
 
  I was building an RV7A, but sold it to buy my GlaStar kit, which is on the back burner until
the Kolb is done.  I need "something" to fly!!
 
  To make matters a little screwed up, I have a Icom A200 mobile version.  This is more like
a CB radio, in that everything is already attached (mic, spkr, tray, etc, etc) for an underdash mount.
This isn't much of a big deal, just different.
  I threw away the bracket, and mounted the tray into my panel, just like any other Icom A200 built-in.
(Now, nobody will know my secret)
 
  Compound the Icom A200M with the fact I have a portable Softcomm Int'l ATC-2 intercom.
There aren't any small colored wires, exactly, just two cords....one that is a pilot/co-pilot microphone combo
plug, and a single headphone plug.  (the colored wires are inside of the large black cords) 
  These two plugs would plug into a typical mic/headphone system.  Somehow, a guy would need to
incorporate a PTT switch, but I haven't figured that part out, yet.
 
  The Softcomm intercom has two large wires(looks like AC cord a toaster would use);  the first one
(microphone) has 4 wires inside of it;
 
1) white....which goes to the mic#1 tip
2) blue......which goes to the mic#2 tip
3) red.......which goes to the center section of both mic #1 & mic# 2
4) black....which goes to the base of both plugs
 
  The other large plug wire (for headphones) has two wires inside of it.  A red one and a white one. 
I haven't identified which one goes where, but it's easy since I can get to the circuit board and
chase them with a multimeter out to the plug.
 
  From what I can tell, it doesn't look too tough to draw up a wiring schematic and get it done.
Thanks for everyone's help.
  I attached a picture of my project.  It is MUCH further along, and is almost finished, just no recent
decent pictures.
 
Mike Welch
 
 
From: stein(at)steinair.com
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Icom A210/A200 owners
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 11:44:38 -0500

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Hi Mike,
 
I didn’t catch what kind of plane?  If it’s an RV or similar the standard softcomm wired as per the manual will be just fine.  No need for separate “Push to Intercom” switches.  Honestly I’d avoid them anyway.  With the exception of a very few warbirds and the occasional helicopter, we’ve rarely seen the need for those to be installed. It’s actually not fun to use one of those systems, it’s akin to using a walkie talkie and trying to have a conversation....
 
My 2 cents as usual!
 
Cheers,
 
Stein

 
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Welch
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 11:12 AM
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Icom A210/A200 owners


 
Stein,
 
  Thanks.  That does it, then.  I'll just go with my Softcomm intercom.
 
  Maybe I might need a pointer or two hooking it up.  I'm hoping I can get
it working, but .......
 
  Is there a way of hooking up the Softcomm intercom with the Icom A200, and
NOT be an open mic arrangement?  I expect the cockpit noise will be "fairly
high", and it is my understanding that if each person pushed a button everytime
they wanted to say something, it would be much less annoying.
 
Or is it not worth it to hook up the PTT design, and simply adjust the squelch
to handle a loud cockpit.
 
Mike Welch
 

From: stein(at)steinair.com
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Icom A210/A200 owners
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 10:27:15 -0500
Hi Mike,
 
FWIW, I’d encourage you to just put in the external intercom and be done with it.  The internal intercom of the 200’s is barely what anyone would call a functioning and usable intercom.  I won’t bore you with the details, but suffice to say our experience has been that almost any intercom is many times superior to the internal one for many reasons.  BTW, the 200 is indeed a great little radio, just not a very good intercom!
 
My 2 cents as usual….
 
Cheers,
 
Stein

 
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Welch
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 9:38 AM
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Icom A210/A200 owners


 
Thanks for the reply, Sam.
 
Shoot!!  I'm still undecided.  I've had a couple of good responses, but about the time I think
I've got a direction, I get a new email, and then rethink my choice.
 
Considering my noisy cockpit environment, using the PTT wiring, Icom internal method seems
to be the best route, I guess.
 
Thanks again, Sam.
 
Mike Welch 

Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 08:56:43 -0500
Subject: Re: Icom A210/A200 owners
From: sam.hoskins(at)gmail.com
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com

I have an A210 and intend to use the intercom, but it's not yet functioning.  I have the wires installed, but I've not had a passenger lately, so finishing it is a low priority right now.
 

Sam

 
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com (mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:
Thanks Ben, I'll be sure to do that.
 
Regarding the value of using the Icom's intercom, anybody?       Anybody??
 
Thanks,  Mike
 

From: n801bh(at)netzero.com (n801bh(at)netzero.com)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:12:03 +0000

To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com (aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com)

Subject: Re: Icom A210/A200 owners
Not related to the intercom but....
I put a A-200 in my experimental and can say it is a great unit. Clear, long range and easy to use.
The one BIG drawback to it was the display is not easy to read unless I turn on my nav lights, which I wired to the internal lighting on the A-200, thinking I would only need radio lighting on when I needed nav lights.  WRONG.... The display is too dim for me to see in normal conditions, I don't want to cut into my harness I made to add a splice so I removed the radio out of the can and looked inside to see if I could jumper the lights that way.. Not a easy deal.
I would suggest you wire the internal radio light to stay on all the time.
Just my opinion.
do not archive.
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com

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