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stazel(at)cpros.com
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 Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:57 am Post subject: Gear Installation |
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I'm about ready to invert my 8 QB fuselage and start the landing gear installation. Is there anything I need to know that is not covered in the instructions? It's such a critical installlation that I want to be as accurate as humanly possible. I'm using Van's stock gear legs. Any advice/tips/cautions/etc. greatly appreciated.
Stan Loer
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cs(at)charlesstringham.co
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| Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:42 am Post subject: Gear Installation |
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Hi Stan,Thanks for the question. I am at the same place in the process, and I too look forward to some wisdom from the others. Chet
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Subject: RV8-List: Gear Installation
I'm about ready to invert = my8QB=20 fuselage and start the landing gear installation. Is there = anything I need=20 to know that is not covered in the instructions? It's such a = critical=20 installlation that I want to be as accurate as humanly possible. = I'm using=20 Van's stock gear legs. Any advice/tips/cautions/etc. greatly=20 appreciated.
Stan Loer
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rice737(at)msn.com
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| Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:58 pm Post subject: Gear Installation |
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On my 8, I spent a long time making sure that the gear wassquareto thecenter lineof the fuselage and that theand only needed half a degree of shim to make my axles perfectly straight.In making it so closeon the initial install, the two outside bolts ended up not being in the center of the gear leg tower (slightly to the rear), and consequently, it isdifficult to getawrenchon therearmost outsidenuts with out removing some of the smaller nuts and bolts of thetower. My advise is tosquare the legs to the fuselage and centered in the tower, then just usea couple moreshims at the axle to make them spot on.
Good luck,
Paul
800 plus landings on original vanstires and still going
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From: cs(at)charlesstringham.com
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 18:40:23 +0000
Hi Stan,
Thanks for the question. I am at the same place in the process, and I too look forward to some wisdom from the others.
Chet Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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Subject: Gear Installation
I'm about ready to invert = my8QB=20 fuselage and start the landing gear installation. Is there = anything I need=20 to know that is not covered in the instructions? It's such a = critical=20 installlation that I want to be as accurate as humanly possible. = I'm using=20 Van's stock gear legs. Any advice/tips/cautions/etc. greatly=20 appreciated.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 5:03 pm Post subject: Gear Installation |
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The plans say to leave the gear off as long as possible and they aren't kidding. Resist the urge to install them just because you want to see how cool its going to look on the gear. I left my -8 fuse on the saw horse until just before I started the engine installation. At that point, all of the wiring was done, the interior was done, and the canopy was done. It sits up high on the gear and makes it a lot more difficult to work on. And I'm a tall dude.
The only thing I would have done differently would have been to REMOVE the instrument panel and instruments before I started the gear leg installation process. It would have be 100x easier to get to the nuts in the gear towers without the panel in place.
Speaking of gear, if you haven't ordered a set of Grove Gear for the RV-8, then do it! Delete the Steel gear from your Van's Kit (or return them), and get yourself a set of the all aluminum Grove gear for the RV-8. They are a work of art and are over 10 lbs LIGHTER than the stock steel gear. Even better, they are already airfoil shaped, so you don't have to mess with the fiberglass fairings. Win win win. Cost is the only drawback. But, they are well worth the investment.
I documented the installation process pretty well on my RV-8 Builders Log:
Grove RV-8 Aluminum Gear
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http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&category=2973&log=67042&row=447
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RV-8 Landing Gear Installation
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| Quote: | Hi Stan,Thanks for the question. I am at the same place in the process, and I too look forward to some wisdom from the others. Chet
From: "Stan Loer" <stazel(at)cpros.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 10:54:52 -0700
Subject: Gear Installation
I'm about ready to invert = my 8 QB fuselage and start the landing gear installation. Is there = anything I need to know that is not covered in the instructions? It's such a = critical installlation that I want to be as accurate as humanly possible. = I'm using Van's stock gear legs. Any advice/tips/cautions/etc. greatly appreciated.
Stan Loer
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| Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 5:31 pm Post subject: Gear Installation |
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i put grove gr, wheels. and tail wheel on first step out of the quick build
box . i have no regrets..j .. rv-8 160 hrs
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pilotjt
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| Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:36 am Post subject: Re: Gear Installation |
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Stan,
Just follow the instructions and you'll be fine. Make sure you have a variety of sockets and extensions on hand. I seem to remember grinding down one of the socket heads and running an extension w/universal socket adapter, out of the gear boxes. My blog might have a pic or two to help. Look under the landing gear label.
-JT
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johnciolino(at)comcast.ne
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| Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:04 pm Post subject: Gear Installation |
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Stan,
This is a suggestion for after you have the legs positioned and drilled.
Van recommends you re-torque the gear leg bolts at 10 hours, 50 hours and every annual after that. Getting into the gear leg towers of a completed -8 and getting a socket on the gear leg nuts is a royal pain. Go to the forums on Vansairforce and search RV-8 torque gear leg bolts for a discussion of the problems. There are several suggestions for making this easier. I used the “cut a socket shorter and grind the side off it” method, but it is still a lot of work and lying in an uncomfortable position. The suggestion I like best is to buy longer bolts and add washers under the nut to raise it out of the channel in which it sits. I think that would help getting access to the nuts.
Also take a look at the pilot hole Van has in the fuselage marking the location of the vent line entry into the tower from the tank. It is positioned exactly over the aft nut/bolt and that means the line has to be removed to get at that nut (at least I had to remove it). Move the vent line entry to some other location if you can.
I’d also recommend opening up the lightening holes and replacing the removed piece with a cover.
John Ciolino
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I'm about ready to invert my 8 QB fuselage and start the landing gear installation. Is there anything I need to know that is not covered in the instructions? It's such a critical installlation that I want to be as accurate as humanly possible. I'm using Van's stock gear legs. Any advice/tips/cautions/etc. greatly appreciated.
Stan Loer
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