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Peter Bichier

Joined: 25 Aug 2008
Posts: 103
Location: Toledo, Ohio

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:35 pm Post subject: Commander photos

Hi Barry,



I must admit it wasn't very clear to me either that you were looking  

for MORE Commander pictures; granted I'm relatively "new" to this  

group... but HEY it's not too late. So I'll start the ball rolling and  

all who are reading will follow how's that?



First I have already shared the ones from my Dad's straight 560 #211  

(YV-T-ABE) I'm still looking for pictures of her when she was  

(YV-515P). If you two want those again, let me know.



Here are two pictures of 1962 500A-B #1251-76 N37CK and 1968 500S  

#1817-23 N590DR taken both at St John's International Airport (VI22)  

taken 10 March 2010. I tried to get closer, but the guard at the gate  

told me since I was not embarking on a plane at the civilian side I  

had no business in there... So I parked the car as close as I could  

from the gate and took a picture from the roof of my rental (I can  

still see the guard waving at me asking WTF?)



Doesn't seem that N37CK is going any where... where as N590DR had just  

landed (you can see the shows of the pilot if you look closely).



Let me know when you receive them Sir. Always a pleasure to hear yours  

and everyone else's Commander stories,



Peter



PS. I am working on your other request as well.

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bertberry1(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:05 pm Post subject: Commander photos

Thank You Peter so much.  Anything at all that you can send us would be so     

Appreciated.



Bert



On Dec 1, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Peter Bichier <pbichie(at)utnet.utoledo.edu> wrote:



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		   Hi Barry,

 

 I must admit it wasn't very clear to me either that you were looking for MORE Commander pictures; granted I'm relatively "new" to this group... but HEY it's not too late. So I'll start the ball rolling and all who are reading will follow how's that?

 

 First I have already shared the ones from my Dad's straight 560 #211 (YV-T-ABE) I'm still looking for pictures of her when she was (YV-515P). If you two want those again, let me know.

 

 Here are two pictures of 1962 500A-B #1251-76 N37CK and 1968 500S #1817-23 N590DR taken both at St John's International Airport (VI22) taken 10 March 2010. I tried to get closer, but the guard at the gate told me since I was not embarking on a plane at the civilian side I had no business in there... So I parked the car as close as I could from the gate and took a picture from the roof of my rental (I can still see the guard waving at me asking WTF?)

 

 Doesn't seem that N37CK is going any where... where as N590DR had just landed (you can see the shows of the pilot if you look closely).

 

 Let me know when you receive them Sir. Always a pleasure to hear yours and everyone else's Commander stories,

 

 Peter

 

 PS. I am working on your other request as well.

 

 <500A-B'62 N37CK VI22'10.jpg>

 

 

 <500S'68 N590DR VI22'10.jpg>

sr14572(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:20 pm Post subject: Commander photos

these were taken after I sold it.

   From: Peter Bichier <pbichie(at)utnet.utoledo.edu>

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com; Barry Collman <barry.collman(at)air-britain.co.uk>; bertberrry(at)aol.com

Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 5:18:33 PM

Subject: Commander photos

Hi Barry,

I must admit it wasn't very clear to me either that you were looking for MORE Commander pictures; granted I'm relatively "new" to this group... but HEY it's not too late. So I'll start the ball rolling and all who are reading will follow how's that?

First I have already shared the ones from my Dad's straight 560 #211 (YV-T-ABE) I'm still looking for pictures of her when she was (YV-515P). If you two want those again, let me know.

Here are two pictures of 1962 500A-B #1251-76 N37CK  and 1968 500S #1817-23 N590DR taken both at St John's International Airport (VI22) taken 10 March 2010. I tried to get closer, but the guard at the gate told me since I was not embarking on a plane at the civilian side I had no business in there... So I parked the car as close as I could from the gate and took a picture from the roof of my rental (I can still see the guard waving at me asking WTF?)

Doesn't seem that N37CK is going any where... where as N590DR had just landed (you can see the shows of the pilot if you look closely).

Let me know when you receive them Sir. Always a pleasure to hear yours and everyone else's Commander stories,

Peter

PS. I am working on your other request as well.

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sr14572(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:20 pm Post subject: Commander photos

This is my old commander taken the last year that I owned it.   I have another pic. after it was sold

   From: Peter Bichier <pbichie(at)utnet.utoledo.edu>

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com; Barry Collman <barry.collman(at)air-britain.co.uk>; bertberrry(at)aol.com

Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 5:18:33 PM

Subject: Commander-List: Commander photos

Hi Barry,

I must admit it wasn't very clear to me either that you were looking for MORE Commander pictures; granted I'm relatively "new" to this group... but HEY it's not too late. So I'll start the ball rolling and all who are reading will follow how's that?

First I have already shared the ones from my Dad's straight 560 #211 (YV-T-ABE) I'm still looking for pictures of her when she was (YV-515P). If you two want those again, let me know.

Here are two pictures of 1962 500A-B #1251-76 N37CK  and 1968 500S #1817-23 N590DR taken both at St John's International Airport (VI22) taken 10 March 2010. I tried to get closer, but the guard at the gate told me since I was not embarking on a plane at the civilian side I had no business in there... So I parked the car as close as I could from the gate and took a picture from the roof of my rental (I can still see the guard waving at me asking WTF?)

Doesn't seem that N37CK is going any where... where as N590DR had just landed (you can see the shows of the pilot if you look closely).

Let me know when you receive them Sir. Always a pleasure to hear yours and everyone else's Commander stories,

Peter

PS. I am working on your other request as well.

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comserv500s(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:41 pm Post subject: Commander photos

Peter: On examination of the pictures of N37CK, it was produced as a 500A, but was converted to a 500B, which is Lycoming IO540B1A5 powered. Just some useless information.  Do you jhave the pictures posted of the fly-in & Evergreen museum? I lost my camera with them, before I could download them.  Best regards,  Morris kernick

 

 On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Peter Bichier <pbichie(at)utnet.utoledo.edu (pbichie(at)utnet.utoledo.edu)> wrote:

 [quote]Hi Barry,



I must admit it wasn't very clear to me either that you were looking for MORE Commander pictures; granted I'm relatively "new" to this group... but HEY it's not too late. So I'll start the ball rolling and all who are reading will follow how's that?

 

First I have already shared the ones from my Dad's straight 560 #211 (YV-T-ABE) I'm still looking for pictures of her when she was (YV-515P). If you two want those again, let me know.



Here are two pictures of 1962 500A-B #1251-76 N37CK and 1968 500S #1817-23 N590DR taken both at St John's International Airport (VI22) taken 10 March 2010. I tried to get closer, but the guard at the gate told me since I was not embarking on a plane at the civilian side I had no business in there... So I parked the car as close as I could from the gate and took a picture from the roof of my rental (I can still see the guard waving at me asking WTF?)

 

Doesn't seem that N37CK is going any where... where as N590DR had just landed (you can see the shows of the pilot if you look closely).



Let me know when you receive them Sir. Always a pleasure to hear yours and everyone else's Commander stories,

 

Peter



PS. I am working on your other request as well.



[b]

barry.collman(at)air-brit
Guest

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:50 am Post subject: Commander photos

Hello “sr14572”,

 

More thanks!

These were ‘obviously’ now taken after many more mods (all recorded) were installed by the Aircenter Inc.

Now a “Shrike-Alike” 500B!!

 

Best Regards,

Barry

 

From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of sr14572(at)yahoo.com

Sent: 02 December 2010 01:16

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com; Barry Collman; bertberrry(at)aol.com

Subject: Re: Commander photos

 

these were taken after I sold it.

 

   [quote][b]

barry.collman(at)air-brit
Guest

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:57 am Post subject: Commander photos

Hi Morris,

 

N37CK was converted from a 500A to a 500B on July 13th 1964 and, to be a bit nit-picky, the engines were IO-540-E1A5.

And in CommanderLand, no information is “useless information” 

Not visible in Peter’s shot, but it has also had a forward cabin door installed.

Another mod. Is the Miller nose, but that’s fairly obvious!!

 

Best Regards,

Barry

 

From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Morris Kernick

Sent: 02 December 2010 07:39

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Commander photos

 

Peter: On examination of the pictures of N37CK, it was produced as a 500A, but was converted to a 500B, which is Lycoming IO540B1A5 powered. Just some useless information.

Do you have the pictures posted of the fly-in & Evergreen museum? I lost my camera with them, before I could download them.  Best regards,  Morris kernick

   [quote][b]

sr14572(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:05 am Post subject: Commander photos

yes. 



 

   From: Barry Collman <barry.collman(at)air-britain.co.uk>

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 7:48:03 AM

Subject: RE: Commander-List: Commander photos



    

Hello â€œsr14572â€, 

  

More thanks! 

These were â€˜obviouslyâ€™ now taken after many more mods (all recorded) were installed by the Aircenter Inc. 

Now a â€œShrike-Alikeâ€ 500B!! 

  

Best Regards, 

Barry 

    

From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of sr14572(at)yahoo.com

Sent: 02 December 2010 01:16

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com; Barry Collman; bertberrry(at)aol.com

Subject: Re: Commander-List: Commander photos



 

    

these were taken after I sold it.



 

 

[quote]www.ist" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Comm=============

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andrew.bridget(at)telus.n
Guest

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:57 am Post subject: Commander photos

I thought Shrikes had eyebrow windows? Or did some earlier 500S models come 

out without them? Must be, if N560DR is a 500S.



I have 2 photos of  Tom Fisher's late Commander, taken at the Abbotsford 

Airshow in 2008 & 2009. The 2008 one is attached. I will send the 2009 one 

in a separate e-mail.

Regards,

Andrew

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andrew.bridget(at)telus.n
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:36 pm Post subject: Commander photos

I thought Shrikes had eyebrow windows? Or did some earlier 500S models come

out without them? Must be, if N560DR is a 500S.



I have 2 photos of  Tom Fisher's late Commander, taken at the Abbotsford

Airshow in 2008 & 2009. The 2008 one is attached. I will send the 2009 one

in a separate e-mail.

Regards,

Andrew

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barry.collman(at)air-brit
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:55 pm Post subject: Commander photos

Hi Andrew,



Grateful thanks for the shot of C-GISS at Abbotsford in 2008.



Not all the Shrikes had the eyebrow windows, as they were not a standard

item until s/n 3076.



Best Regards,

Barry



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BillLeff1(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:35 am Post subject: Commander photos

That is not a Shrike. It is a 680FL



BILL LEFF



Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless

-----Original message-----

[quote]From: Andrew & Bridget Watson <andrew.bridget(at)telus.net>

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Fri, Dec 3, 2010 20:39:17 GMT+00:00

Subject: Re: Commander-List: Commander photos

I thought Shrikes had eyebrow windows? Or did some earlier 500S models come

out without them? Must be, if N560DR is a 500S.



I have 2 photos of  Tom Fisher's late Commander, taken at the Abbotsford

Airshow in 2008 & 2009. The 2008 one is attached. I will send the 2009 one

in a separate e-mail.

Regards,

Andrew

---

BillLeff1(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:36 am Post subject: Commander photos

Oops, my mistake it is a Mr. RPM 680FLP



Bill Leff



Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless



-----Original message-----

From: Andrew & Bridget Watson <andrew.bridget(at)telus.net>

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Fri, Dec 3, 2010 20:39:17 GMT+00:00

Subject: Re: Commander photos



I thought Shrikes had eyebrow windows? Or did some earlier 500S models come

out without them? Must be, if N560DR is a 500S.



I have 2 photos of  Tom Fisher's late Commander, taken at the Abbotsford

Airshow in 2008 & 2009. The 2008 one is attached. I will send the 2009 one

in a separate e-mail.

Regards,

Andrew

---

barry.collman(at)air-brit
Guest

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:04 am Post subject: Commander photos

Hi Bill,

 

Just to clear up a bit of confusion, the Commander photographed at Abbotsford was indeed a MR RPM 680FLP, but Andrew was referring to N590DR, which was a Shrike, s/n 1817-23.

 

Best Regards,

Barry

 

From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of BillLeff1(at)aol.com

Sent: 04 December 2010 08:34

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Commander photos

 

Oops, my mistake it is a Mr. RPM 680FLP



Bill Leff



Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless



-----Original message-----

From: Andrew & Bridget Watson <andrew.bridget(at)telus.net>

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Fri, Dec 3, 2010 20:39:17 GMT+00:00

Subject: Re: Commander photos



I thought Shrikes had eyebrow windows? Or did some earlier 500S models come

out without them? Must be, if N560DR is a 500S.



I have 2 photos of Tom Fisher's late Commander, taken at the Abbotsford

Airshow in 2008 & 2009. The 2008 one is attached. I will send the 2009 one

in a separate e-mail.

Regards,

Andrew

---

BillLeff1(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:59 am Post subject: Commander photos

I see, got it.  THANKS. Do you have pictures of N69AT?  It is a 560 that has been sitting at KHAO for years. I hear they are going to scrap it.  I thought I would stop by and get some pictures of it if you don't have any.



By the way, was the 680FLP the unpressurized camera ship we use to work on here?



Bill



Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless

-----Original message-----

[quote]From: Barry Collman <barry.collman(at)air-britain.co.uk>

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Sat, Dec 4, 2010 12:04:34 GMT+00:00

Subject: RE: Commander-List: Commander photos

  <![endif]-->   <![endif]-->

Hi Bill,

 

Just to clear up a bit of confusion, the Commander photographed at Abbotsford was indeed a MR RPM 680FLP, but Andrew was referring to N590DR, which was a Shrike, s/n 1817-23.

 

Best Regards,

Barry

 

From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of BillLeff1(at)aol.com

Sent: 04 December 2010 08:34

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Commander-List: Commander photos

 

Oops, my mistake it is a Mr. RPM 680FLP



Bill Leff



Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless



-----Original message-----

From: Andrew & Bridget Watson <andrew.bridget(at)telus.net>

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Fri, Dec 3, 2010 20:39:17 GMT+00:00

Subject: Re: Commander-List: Commander photos



I thought Shrikes had eyebrow windows? Or did some earlier 500S models come

out without them? Must be, if N560DR is a 500S.



I have 2 photos of Tom Fisher's late Commander, taken at the Abbotsford

Airshow in 2008 & 2009. The 2008 one is attached. I will send the 2009 one

in a separate e-mail.

Regards,

Andrew

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tfisher(at)commandergroup
Guest

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:09 am Post subject: Commander photos

Formally FL"P"

 Tom...

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tfisher(at)commandergroup
Guest

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:10 am Post subject: Commander photos

It had a 9" camera port in the baggage compartment and a  19" in the belly of the cabin.

 Tom...

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BillLeff1(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:42 am Post subject: Commander photos

I thought so. I recognized the vents on the gill plates.



Bill



Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless

-----Original message-----

[quote]From: Tom Fisher <tfisher(at)commandergroup.bc.ca>

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Sat, Dec 4, 2010 16:11:52 GMT+00:00

Subject: Re: Commander-List: Commander photos

  BODY { 	BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff; WORD-WRAP: break-word }     It had a 9" camera port in the baggage compartment and a  19" in the belly of the cabin.

 Tom...

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barry.collman(at)air-brit
Guest

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:24 pm Post subject: Commander photos

Hi Bill,

 

Any shots of N69AT will be more than welcome, as I donâ€™t have any at all of s/n 181.

There is, however, a shot of it on airliners.net if you cannot stop by to take a few shots.

 

The 680FLP was s/n 1497-15 C-GISS, previously N77WD, N6125X, N1152Z.

Commander-Aero owned it as N77WD briefly in March 1983.

 

Best Regards,

Barry

 

From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of BillLeff1(at)aol.com

Sent: 04 December 2010 14:56

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RE: Commander photos

 

I see, got it.  THANKS. Do you have pictures of N69AT?  It is a 560 that has been sitting at KHAO for years. I hear they are going to scrap it.  I thought I would stop by and get some pictures of it if you don't have any.



By the way, was the 680FLP the unpressurized camera ship we use to work on here?



Bill



Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless



-----Original message-----

From: Barry Collman <barry.collman(at)air-britain.co.uk>

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Sat, Dec 4, 2010 12:04:34 GMT+00:00

Subject: RE: Commander photos



Hi Bill,

 

Just to clear up a bit of confusion, the Commander photographed at Abbotsford was indeed a MR RPM 680FLP, but Andrew was referring to N590DR, which was a Shrike, s/n 1817-23.

 

Best Regards,

Barry

 

From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of BillLeff1(at)aol.com

Sent: 04 December 2010 08:34

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Commander photos

 

Oops, my mistake it is a Mr. RPM 680FLP



Bill Leff



Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless



-----Original message-----

From: Andrew & Bridget Watson <andrew.bridget(at)telus.net>

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Fri, Dec 3, 2010 20:39:17 GMT+00:00

Subject: Re: Commander photos



I thought Shrikes had eyebrow windows? Or did some earlier 500S models come

out without them? Must be, if N560DR is a 500S.



I have 2 photos of Tom Fisher's late Commander, taken at the Abbotsford

Airshow in 2008 & 2009. The 2008 one is attached. I will send the 2009 one

in a separate e-mail.

Regards,

Andrew

---

barry.collman(at)air-brit
Guest

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:24 pm Post subject: Commander photos

Hi Tom,

 

Was the pressurization system completely removed from your 680FLP, effectively converting it to a 680FL?

Or, was the system just not used after the camera installations were made?

 

If the system was removed, can you recall the date?

 

I see that it has had N680JW Assigned by the US FAA as a valid Import since March.

Any news on whatâ€™s going to happen to it?

 

Best Regards,

Barry

 

From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Fisher

Sent: 04 December 2010 16:06

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Commander photos

 

Formally FL"P"



Tom...

[quote]

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