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sean(at)stephensville.com
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:47 pm Post subject: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin

Working on wrapping up the dreaded Section 29 and have come across two 

areas where I am unable to get the skin rivets bucked.  The attached 

pictures show the two areas.  One is in the bottom right corner where 

the F-1041 meets F-1042 and the other is behind the F-1001J where the 

forward longeron attaches.



What have others done in these two spots?  Anyone have a special bucking 

bar recommendation or maybe the use of pop rivets in these areas?



Thanks,



-Sean #40303

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rleffler

Joined: 05 Nov 2006
Posts: 680

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:25 pm Post subject: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin

My tungsten bar fit in those places without an issue.  I know that wasn't

the answer you were looking for.



Bob

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jeff(at)westcottpress.com
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:25 pm Post subject: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin

I used 1/2" and/or 3/4" steel bar material in areas like this....  

resulting in very sore fingers for a few days afterwards.

Jeff Carpenter

40304

On Oct 19, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Sean Stephens wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   Working on wrapping up the dreaded Section 29 and have come across  

 two areas where I am unable to get the skin rivets bucked.  The  

 attached pictures show the two areas.  One is in the bottom right  

 corner where the F-1041 meets F-1042 and the other is behind the  

 F-1001J where the forward longeron attaches.



 What have others done in these two spots?  Anyone have a special  

 bucking bar recommendation or maybe the use of pop rivets in these  

 areas?



 Thanks,



 -Sean #40303

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sean(at)stephensville.com
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:40 pm Post subject: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin

Is that the modified emp bar you are referring to?  Unfortunately an 

RV-10 builder in Prescott, AZ "borrowed" my emp bar a few years ago and 

never returned it.  Cannot remember his name or if he is even still around.



-Sean #40303



On 10/19/10 4:14 PM, Bob Leffler wrote:

[quote] 



 My tungsten bar fit in those places without an issue.  I know that wasn't

 the answer you were looking for.



 Bob

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rleffler

Joined: 05 Nov 2006
Posts: 680

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:25 pm Post subject: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin

Nope, my tungsten bar is relatively thin, but unmodified.  I also have some

thinner steel bars, but don't recall using them there.

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rv10builder(at)verizon.ne
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:34 pm Post subject: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin

Bob;

You just had to rub that in!!, but actually it's the perfect answer. The bar 

is small and tough, but it's expensive too. It does work very well for a 

person just starting who could benefit from it throughout the build.



Sean;

I used thin plates (1/2 in or so) initially  and grinded down one of my 

bucking bars to fit after not being able to take the abuse of the riveting 

on the plates.



You'll have many more small areas that will need tight riveting. Consider 

cherry rivets or pop rivets- which BTW I rarely did until the RV-12 came out 

and I figured the whole plane is pop rivets so it can't be that bad.



Pascal



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From: "Bob Leffler" <rv(at)thelefflers.com>

Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:14 PM

To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject: RE: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin



[quote] 



 My tungsten bar fit in those places without an issue.  I know that wasn't

 the answer you were looking for.



 Bob

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sean(at)stephensville.com
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:45 pm Post subject: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin

Did you purchase the bar or make it?  If you bought it, do you have a 

reference link?



Thanks,



-Sean #40303



On 10/19/10 5:20 PM, Bob Leffler wrote:

[quote] 



 Nope, my tungsten bar is relatively thin, but unmodified.  I also have some

 thinner steel bars, but don't recall using them there.

 --

carlosh(at)structuralaz.c
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:54 pm Post subject: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin

Here's a less expensive tungsten 

choice....http://www.tungsten-bucking-bar.com/prices.html



Carlos in AZ



On 10/19/2010 3:31 PM, Pascal wrote:

[quote] 



 Bob;

 You just had to rub that in!!, but actually it's the perfect answer. 

 The bar is small and tough, but it's expensive too. It does work very 

 well for a person just starting who could benefit from it throughout 

 the build.



 Sean;

 I used thin plates (1/2 in or so) initially  and grinded down one of 

 my bucking bars to fit after not being able to take the abuse of the 

 riveting on the plates.



 You'll have many more small areas that will need tight riveting. 

 Consider cherry rivets or pop rivets- which BTW I rarely did until the 

 RV-12 came out and I figured the whole plane is pop rivets so it can't 

 be that bad.



 Pascal



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 From: "Bob Leffler" <rv(at)thelefflers.com>

 Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:14 PM

 To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

 Subject: RE: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin



> 

>

> My tungsten bar fit in those places without an issue.  I know that 

> wasn't

> the answer you were looking for.

>

> Bob

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effectus(at)rogers.com
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:57 pm Post subject: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin

You can get them from Mike Lauritsen at Cleaveland Tools



Dave

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jeff(at)westcottpress.com
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:00 pm Post subject: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin

Stein sells a tungsten bar.  Make sure you're sitting down when you  

see the price.

On Oct 19, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Sean Stephens wrote:

[quote] 

 <sean(at)stephensville.com>

 Did you purchase the bar or make it?  If you bought it, do you have  

 a reference link?

 Thanks,

 -Sean #40303

 On 10/19/10 5:20 PM, Bob Leffler wrote:

> 

>

> Nope, my tungsten bar is relatively thin, but unmodified.  I also  

> have some

> thinner steel bars, but don't recall using them there.

> --

rv10(at)colohan.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:55 pm Post subject: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin

I picked up a tungsten bar from ebay, sold by the fine folks at www.tungsten.com.



Works great.  It is edging out my Cleaveland Main Squeeze as my "favourite tool".

 



Chris



On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Jeff Carpenter <jeff(at)westcottpress.com (jeff(at)westcottpress.com)> wrote:

[quote] --> RV10-List message posted by: Jeff Carpenter <jeff(at)westcottpress.com (jeff(at)westcottpress.com)>

 



 Stein sells a tungsten bar.  Make sure you're sitting down when you see the price.



 

 

 On Oct 19, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Sean Stephens wrote:

 

 [quote] --> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <sean(at)stephensville.com (sean(at)stephensville.com)>

 

 Did you purchase the bar or make it?  If you bought it, do you have a reference link?

 

 Thanks,

 

 -Sean #40303

 

 On 10/19/10 5:20 PM, Bob Leffler wrote:

 [quote] -->  RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Leffler"<rv(at)thelefflers.com (rv(at)thelefflers.com)>

 

 Nope, my tungsten bar is relatively thin, but unmodified.  I also have some

 thinner steel bars, but don't recall using them there.

 

 

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Deems Davis

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 925

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:00 pm Post subject: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin

Sean: 

       

       Here's what I did for that situation:

       

 http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2029%20Fuse%20Side%20Skins/slides/DSC02624.html

       

       I used a cutoff wheel on a die grinder to make the cut,

       

       BTW ,I think I know where your emp bar is, it found its way into       my hangar, send me your address and I'll send it to you.

       

       Deems

     

     On 10/19/2010 2:38 PM, Sean Stephens wrote:     [quote]--> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens       <sean(at)stephensville.com> (sean(at)stephensville.com)       

       

        Is that the modified emp bar you are referring to?  Unfortunately       an RV-10 builder in Prescott, AZ "borrowed" my emp bar a few years       ago and never returned it.  Cannot remember his name or if he is       even still around.       

       

       -Sean #40303       

       

       On 10/19/10 4:14 PM, Bob Leffler wrote:       

       [quote]-->  RV10-List message posted by: "Bob         Leffler"<rv(at)thelefflers.com> (rv(at)thelefflers.com)         

         

         My tungsten bar fit in those places without an issue.  I know         that wasn't         

         the answer you were looking for.         

         

         Bob         

         

         

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