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Something *not* to use to bond your RV-10 windows

 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:57 pm    Post subject: Something *not* to use to bond your RV-10 windows Reply with quote

For those coming up on this task, weld-on may not be such a villan. I used the aluminum finger method but made no other effort to tightly clamp the pieces together. Almost a year later, not flying but no cracking.  I suggest just fighting the urge to squeeze the pieces together.. The fit was not bad.

Will report after climb to FL150.

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Dan, thanks for posting this info and the excellent photo's. I came very close to using one of the alternative window bonding products that were being discussed at that time. I ended up using the Weld-On. With an extra set of hands and lots of attention to setting up properly, it was a pretty easy process. There was a lesson that I had to learn more than once during construction. It was this: If you are going to deviate significantly from Van's instructions and processes, think very carefully about unintended consequences. [Shocked]
I found out the hard way more than once!

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:23 pm    Post subject: Something *not* to use to bond your RV-10 windows Reply with quote

I second that. With proper planning it is not bad at all, the clean up off the inside plexi is the worst part.
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For those coming up on this task, weld-on may not be such a villan. I used the aluminum finger method but made no other effort to tightly clamp the pieces together. Almost a year later, not flying but no cracking. I suggest just fighting the urge to squeeze the pieces together.. The fit was not bad.

Will report after climb to FL150.

-- Sent from my Palm Pre

On Nov 9, 2010 8:38 PM, dmaib(at)me.com <dmaib(at)me.com> wrote:

--> RV10-List message posted by: "dmaib(at)me.com" <dmaib(at)me.com>

Dan, thanks for posting this info and the excellent photo's. I came very close to using one of the alternative window bonding products that were being discussed at that time. I ended up using the Weld-On. With an extra set of hands and lots of attention to setting up properly, it was a pretty easy process. There was a lesson that I had to learn more than once during construction. It was this: If you are going to deviate significantly from Van's instructions and processes, think very carefully about unintended consequences. [Shocked]
I found out the hard way more than once!

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RV-10 #40559


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:36 pm    Post subject: Something *not* to use to bond your RV-10 windows Reply with quote

Agreed on the inside cleanup. Someone here suggested 50/50 mix of acetone/mineral spirits. Worked well for me. I wouldn't have used 100% acetone but the mix seemed much tamer. No crazing.

Two other suggestions:
- mask both sides of the plexi to simplify cleanup. The brush on stuff from AS worked well on the outside but I used plastic tape and paper on the inside where the mess ends up.
- dry fit the plexi on the canopy top so that a short straight edge can be run around the edge without hanging up on any protruding plexi. I found that all 4 windows and the windshield (almost) can be pretty easily fit this way with no pressure applied (old green canopy top)

The stuff does stink, seems toxic, and probably calls for better ventilation and protection than I used at first.

On 11/9/2010 10:18 PM, Pascal wrote: [quote] I second that. With proper planning it is not bad at all, the clean up off the inside plexi is the worst part.
Pascal


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For those coming up on this task, weld-on may not be such a villan. I used the aluminum finger method but made no other effort to tightly clamp the pieces together. Almost a year later, not flying but no cracking. I suggest just fighting the urge to squeeze the pieces together.. The fit was not bad.

Will report after climb to FL150.


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