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 Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:11 pm Post subject: Aileron gap seal. |
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I will like to give my point of view about this matter... For me now flying my 701 and (hope) soon the 601 XLB... My idea of a clean airplane is not related with more top speed.
I fly to enjoy my flight, is useless to get there faster, just take off half an hour sooner and you save a lot of gas and time, same fun 
My idea of "cleaning" is more to have a better range and saving a few bucks in gas is a bonus. we redesigned the cowling of our 701 and got a few mph in cruise (from 84 to around 92 mph) at 5,100 rpms the flying range has improved and the handling keeps great... Now we have a much better 701, we used to have a wonderfull 701
I also think that we never finish working on our airplanes... "cleaning" the plane is a better alternative to "adding goodies" and of course weight.
Go ahead with the work, time with the airplane is always rewarding.
Also a forgoten point... improve our flying skills, some pilots might fly a little uncordinated (ball not exactly centered) or a "click" out of trim... this generates a lttle drag and of course reduces speed (how much? dont know).
Back to working...
Gary Gower
(Racers build Lancairs
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From: paulrod36(at)msn.com <paulrod36(at)msn.com>
Subject: Re: Aileron gap seal
To: zenith601-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Thursday, November 11, 2010, 6:57 PM
It is a pretty clean plane, and wheel pants would help, but your prop pitch has a lot to do with it, also. Generally, you get either good climbouts or good cruise, but rarely both with a fixed-pitch prop. There's a ton of talent and experience on this net, and I'm sure somebody will have your engine/prop combo, and has probably dealt with the problem. I think there's general agreement that wheelpants will give you some additional knots, and a few tweaks, assuming you have a ground-adjustable prop, might very well do it for you. Frankly, I'm envious of anyone whose plane is done. Whenever I get done, I may name it "Great Pyramid", or "Great Wall", or anything else that took years, and years, and years, and.... well, you get the idea. Hang in there.
Paul R
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| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 2:22 am Post subject: Aileron gap seal. |
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Hi Gary,
I am glad to see you are still around and flying.
I agree with your points - except for the notion that going fast is not really valuable. I like to go as fast as I can in any airplane. Perhaps that is why I didn't chose to build a 701.
I do agree with you about the idea that going faster doesn't really improve your enjoyment. For me it is just a challenge that I can't resist. I suppose I would follow your advice and build a Lancair, but I can't fly one of those without a medical certificate. Besides, they have awful safety records - much worse than experimental planes as a group.
Have fun,
Paul
Just finished second wing upgrade on XL - moving on to fuselage.
From: owner-zenith601-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith601-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Gower
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 10:02 PM
To: zenith601-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Aileron gap seal.
I will like to give my point of view about this matter... For me now flying my 701 and (hope) soon the 601 XLB... My idea of a clean airplane is not related with more top speed.
I fly to enjoy my flight, is useless to get there faster, just take off half an hour sooner and you save a lot of gas and time, same fun
My idea of "cleaning" is more to have a better range and saving a few bucks in gas is a bonus. we redesigned the cowling of our 701 and got a few mph in cruise (from 84 to around 92 mph) at 5,100 rpms the flying range has improved and the handling keeps great... Now we have a much better 701, we used to have a wonderfull 701
I also think that we never finish working on our airplanes... "cleaning" the plane is a better alternative to "adding goodies" and of course weight.
Go ahead with the work, time with the airplane is always rewarding.
Also a forgoten point... improve our flying skills, some pilots might fly a little uncordinated (ball not exactly centered) or a "click" out of trim... this generates a lttle drag and of course reduces speed (how much? dont know).
Back to working...
Gary Gower
(Racers build Lancairs
--- On Thu, 11/11/10, paulrod36(at)msn.com <paulrod36(at)msn.com> wrote:
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From: paulrod36(at)msn.com <paulrod36(at)msn.com>
Subject: Re: Aileron gap seal
To: zenith601-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Thursday, November 11, 2010, 6:57 PM
It is a pretty clean plane, and wheel pants would help, but your prop pitch has a lot to do with it, also. Generally, you get either good climbouts or good cruise, but rarely both with a fixed-pitch prop. There's a ton of talent and experience on this net, and I'm sure somebody will have your engine/prop combo, and has probably dealt with the problem. I think there's general agreement that wheelpants will give you some additional knots, and a few tweaks, assuming you have a ground-adjustable prop, might very well do it for you. Frankly, I'm envious of anyone whose plane is done. Whenever I get done, I may name it "Great Pyramid", or "Great Wall", or anything else that took years, and years, and years, and.... well, you get the idea. Hang in there.
Paul R
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