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dmaib@me.com

Joined: 25 Apr 2006
Posts: 455
Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:34 pm Post subject: Nose Wheel Turn Limiting Screws

In the middle of my condition inspection and found the left hand socket screw on the nose wheel fork has been sheared off cleanly. I have no idea when this happened. I have had the nose wheel pant off two or three times in the past year and did not notice it. (that doesn't mean it wasn't already broken the last time I was in there)  

It looks like it will be a bear to get it out of there. Has anybody else had this happen? I suspect it was probably an overzealous FBO moving the airplane.



On another note, I just installed Sean's Planearound main gear wheel pant bracket spacers and they are beautiful! Two years and 310 hours, and mine looked fine, but these are really nice and I won't be worrying about them again.

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David Maib
RV-10 #40559
New Smyrna Beach, FL

Jim Berry

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 237
Location: Denver

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:00 pm Post subject: Re: Nose Wheel Turn Limiting Screws

David,



Buy yourself an Alden Corp. Drill-Out bolt extractor set from Ace or Home Depot. These things are great. They have bailed me out of multiple screw ups.



Jim Berry

N15JB

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dlm46007(at)cox.net
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:22 pm Post subject: Nose Wheel Turn Limiting Screws

Snap on easy outs..... drill an  appropriate size hole in the center of the sheared area. insert easy out, note  left hand threads. turning the easy out left will remove the screw. when removed  you will see a sheared screw with easy out inserted into it. separate and  insert new screw. Screws are available from McMaster Carr.

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dmaib@me.com

Joined: 25 Apr 2006
Posts: 455
Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:48 pm Post subject: Re: Nose Wheel Turn Limiting Screws

Thanks guy's. I will get an easy out set and get it out of there. I have an inexpensive one I bought from Sears a few years ago and have never had any luck with it, so will get a good one now.



I have been thinking about this and am considering putting some "tow limit" marks on the nose gear fairing and the wheel pant. I try to make it clear to FBO's that I want to be there if the airplane is going to be towed, but that is not always possible. Has anybody else put tow limit marks on the airplane?

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David Maib
RV-10 #40559
New Smyrna Beach, FL

Kelly McMullen

Joined: 16 Apr 2008
Posts: 1188
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:02 pm Post subject: Nose Wheel Turn Limiting Screws

On my Mooney, turning the nose wheel with a tug past the stops causes

over $1000 worth of damage. FBO's have paid for damage to Mooneys

enough that they are sensitive to the problem and most will honor a no

tow request. I simply ask where I can park to assure that they will

not need to tow it. I have a "Do Not Tow" banner to hang on the nose

gear where tow bar attaches.



On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 6:48 PM, dmaib(at)me.com <dmaib(at)me.com> wrote:

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 Thanks guy's. I will get an easy out set and get it out of there. I have an inexpensive one I bought from Sears a few years ago and have never had any luck with it, so will get a good one now.



 I have been thinking about this and am considering putting some "tow limit" marks on the nose gear fairing and the wheel pant. I try to make it clear to FBO's that I want to be there if the airplane is going to be towed, but that is not always possible. Has anybody else put tow limit marks on the airplane?



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Kelly McMullen
A&P/IA, EAA Tech Counselor
KCHD

pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:25 pm Post subject: Nose Wheel Turn Limiting Screws

If they're so ham-fisted that they broke the stop, then no amount of 

marks are going to help.  And you'll just get questioned on 'what are 

those marks for???'

FWIW, i'll bet that the stop got broken when a lineman pushed it 

backwards, got a little speed up and then the nose gear snapped around 

to the stop.  Replacing the stops with hardened screws would probably 

shift the damage somewhere else.

Linn



On 11/20/2010 8:48 PM, dmaib(at)me.com wrote:

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 Thanks guy's. I will get an easy out set and get it out of there. I have an inexpensive one I bought from Sears a few years ago and have never had any luck with it, so will get a good one now.



 I have been thinking about this and am considering putting some "tow limit" marks on the nose gear fairing and the wheel pant. I try to make it clear to FBO's that I want to be there if the airplane is going to be towed, but that is not always possible. Has anybody else put tow limit marks on the airplane?



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 David Maib

 RV-10 #40559





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=320219#320219

carl.froehlich(at)verizon
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:36 pm Post subject: Nose Wheel Turn Limiting Screws

NEVER let a FBO move your plane or fuel it.  When I fly to the "full

service" FBOs I always call ahead and tell them I will taxi to parking and

if I get fuel it will be right before departure.  All FBOs have honored my

request.



A long time ago I let an FBO fuel my 8A - once.  I ended up 7 gallons short

of full tanks on a leg that I really wanted to have the reserve.  I noted

the disparity between indicated fuel level (once I burned off some fuel to

get into the indication range) and fuel totalizer so I knew then I was

shorted.  No big deal but a good lesson learned.



Carl



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coop85(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:52 pm Post subject: Nose Wheel Turn Limiting Screws

Just piling on to the "don't let the lineman move the plane" thread...Before

I got my wheelpants on, a guy hooked the towbar to some convenient holes in

the front fork and sheared the nose tire valve stem.  Pretty unimpressive.

I am quite clear about not moving the airplane now.  I was a lineboy in high

school and loved the job and don't mean to generically put down the line

folk, but our airplanes are unique enough to warrant extra care.



Marcus

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dmaib@me.com

Joined: 25 Apr 2006
Posts: 455
Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 3:35 am Post subject: Re: Nose Wheel Turn Limiting Screws

I am also very careful about letting anybody tow my airplane. I also have a no tow banner that I put on the nose gear if needed.

Many certified airplanes have tow limit marks and any lineman worth his salt is familiar with them and what they mean. So, I am considering going that route as an additional precaution.



Some of you may remember that I suffered serious nose wheel pant damage on my very first trip out of phase 1 and the paint shop. Lineman used a tow bar head that had pins that did not fit over the bolts. He then proceeded to push the airplane and ripped back from the holes in the wheel pants. The line manager had been told that I wanted to be there when they moved the airplane. Lineboy took it on himself to reposition the airplane. Worst thing was that he did not tell anyone what he had done. I came back out to the ramp to find my airplane moved and when I walked up to it, the damage was apparent.

The FBO paid to have the pant repaired and repainted.



Long story, but my point is that I take all of the precautions that you all are advocating, and it still happened. Here is a photo of the damage done by my incident. Very first trip outside of the Phase 1 area!

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David Maib
RV-10 #40559
New Smyrna Beach, FL

dmaib@me.com

Joined: 25 Apr 2006
Posts: 455
Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 3:38 am Post subject: Re: Nose Wheel Turn Limiting Screws

Oops! Sorry about the size of that photo.

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RV-10 #40559
New Smyrna Beach, FL

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