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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:42 am    Post subject: Commander Sighting in Buenos Aires Reply with quote

Hi Barry,

You may already know about this one, but just to show that I also appreciate all of the great work you do, I'd like to tell you about a Twin Commander I saw yesterday at the International Airport in Buenos Aires.

Don't get too excited, because it looks like it's been there for a while, but I saw it yesterday on the GA side of the airport, opposite where the airline terminal is. My information is a bit vague because I could get no closer than a half a mile or so to it.

Anyway, it looks to me like a 680T, V, W, or 681, because of what appeared to be turbine-style exhausts and the shorter nacelle to fuselage distance. The plane is beige with light blue striping, and is missing (at least) the rudder.

I took a few photos of it as we were taking off again, since I had a window seat on the correct side of the airliner and we rotated just as we passed the Commander. I'm still in Argentina, but will e-mail a few photos to you when I get home next week. They're a little blurry, since I took them through several layers of plexiglas while moving at 120 knots or so, but maybe you will find them useful.

BTW, not much GA activity in Argentina, as far as I can tell. I've been to about six airports here in my travels and, other than a few corporate-style jets, I have seen only a Cessna 320 and an MU-2.

All for now!

Regards,
Stan


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:42 am    Post subject: Commander Sighting in Buenos Aires Reply with quote

Hi Stan,

Such sightings are extremely helpful, especially when they are South of the border!
So, grateful thanks for taking the time and trouble to put finger to keyboard.

I think the one you saw is a 680V, s/n 1681-63, LV-OFX.
I have 4 shots of it parked in derelict condition.
No engines and, as you noted, no rudder.

I'll await your shots in order to compare them with those I have, but in the meantime you can see a shot of it on www.myaviation.net, taken on 01May08.
However, a later shot of it on airliners.net, taken on 09Mar10, reveals that it's been moved and has been moved just outside the airport perimeter in order to take part in a mock accident to test the response of emergency procedures.

Very Best Regards,
Barry

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 2:55 pm    Post subject: Commander Sighting in Buenos Aires Reply with quote

Hi Barry,

The photos on both sites are consistent with what I saw in person. The photo on myaviation.net shows that the right engine and prop are still in place. I didn´t get a good enough look at it to see whether it was still there the other day. The plane is definitely still on the airport grounds, parked with its tail towards the runway.

Anyway, I´ll be forwarding a few photos to you next week when I'm back home.

Regards,
Stan

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 3:26 pm    Post subject: Commander Sighting in Buenos Aires Reply with quote

Hi Stan,

OK - grateful thanks!

Very Best Regards,
Barry

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:06 pm    Post subject: Commander Sighting in Buenos Aires Reply with quote

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]--> BARRY, SEE WHAT INFO YOU HAVE ON A 680 N6851S. I'LL EMAIL A LONG STORY,HOWEVER IT'S BONES SHOULD BE IN COLOMBIA.THANKS,LLOYD (500B N6290X).
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:24 am    Post subject: Commander Sighting in Buenos Aires Reply with quote

Hi Lloyd,

Its bones should indeed be in Colombia and I see that you were a joint owner of N6851S sometime before it went to Colombia.
I’m going to email you an .xls file showing what I have on its history and will certainly look forward to learning “a long story”!

Best Regards,
Barry

From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of lloyd silverman
Sent: 09 December 2010 01:32
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Subject: Re: Commander Sighting in Buenos Aires

BARRY, SEE WHAT INFO YOU HAVE ON A 680 N6851S. I'LL EMAIL A LONG STORY,HOWEVER IT'S BONES SHOULD BE IN COLOMBIA.THANKS,LLOYD (500B N6290X).
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:33 am    Post subject: Commander Sighting in Buenos Aires Reply with quote

If any member would like an aerocommander.com email address, just let me know.
Only "nico" has been taken and addresses like webmaster, administrator etc. cannot be allowed.
Thanks
Nico



From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Collman
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 4:15 AM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Commander Sighting in Buenos Aires


Hi Lloyd,

Its bones should indeed be in Colombia and I see that you were a joint owner of N6851S sometime before it went to Colombia.
I’m going to email you an .xls file showing what I have on its history and will certainly look forward to learning “a long story”!

Best Regards,
Barry

From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of lloyd silverman
Sent: 09 December 2010 01:32
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Commander Sighting in Buenos Aires



BARRY, SEE WHAT INFO YOU HAVE ON A 680 N6851S. I'LL EMAIL A LONG STORY,HOWEVER IT'S BONES SHOULD BE IN COLOMBIA.THANKS,LLOYD (500B N6290X).
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From: Barry Collman (barry.collman(at)air-britain.co.uk)

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com)

Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:39 AM

Subject: RE: Commander Sighting in Buenos Aires



--> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman(at)air-britain.co.uk (barry.collman(at)air-britain.co.uk)>

Hi Stan,

Such sightings are extremely helpful, especially when they are South of the border!
So, grateful thanks for taking the time and trouble to put finger to keyboard.

I think the one you saw is a 680V, s/n 1681-63, LV-OFX.
I have 4 shots of it parked in derelict condition.
No engines and, as you noted, no rudder.

I'll await your shots in order to compare them with those I have, but in the meantime you can see a shot of it on www.myaviation.net, taken on 01May08.
However, a later shot of it on airliners.net, taken on 09Mar10, reveals that it's been moved and has been moved just outside the airport perimeter in order to take part in a mock accident to test the response of emergency procedures.

Very Best Regards,
Barry

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of swperk(at)earthlink.net (swperk(at)earthlink.net)
Sent: 08 December 2010 15:39
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com (commander-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Commander Sighting in Buenos Aires

--> Commander-List message posted by: swperk(at)earthlink.net (swperk(at)earthlink.net)

Hi Barry,

You may already know about this one, but just to show that I also appreciate all of the great work you do, I'd like to tell you about a Twin Commander I saw yesterday at the International Airport in Buenos Aires.

Don't get too excited, because it looks like it's been there for a while, but I saw it yesterday on the GA side of the airport, opposite where the airline terminal is. My information is a bit vague because I could get no closer than a half a mile or so to it.

Anyway, it looks to me like a 680T, V, W, or 681, because of what appeared to be turbine-style exhausts and the shorter nacelle to fuselage distance. The plane is beige with light blue striping, and is missing (at least) the rudder.

I took a few photos of it as we were taking off again, since I had a window seat on the correct side of the airliner and we rotated just as we passed the Commander. I'm still in Argentina, but will e-mail a few photos to you when I get home next week. They're a little blurry, since I took them through several layers of plexiglas while moving at 120 knots or so, but maybe you will find them useful.

BTW, not much GA activity in Argentina, as far as I can tell. I've been to about six airports here in my travels and, other than a few corporate-style jets, I have seen only a Cessna 320 and an MU-2.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 7:21 pm    Post subject: Commander Sighting in Buenos Aires Reply with quote

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]--> Long interesting story about 6851S (680) Will send next week. Thanks, Barry.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 7:22 pm    Post subject: Commander Sighting in Buenos Aires Reply with quote

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]--> barry, my direct email address is LLOYDSSS11(at)MSN.COM (LLOYDSSS11(at)MSN.COM) Thanks for your great work.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 5:49 am    Post subject: Commander Sighting in Buenos Aires Reply with quote

Hi Lloyd,

I sent an email to you yesterday with some attached files.
I presume it got to you OK?

Best Regards,
Barry

From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of lloyd silverman
Sent: 10 December 2010 03:21
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barry, my direct email address is LLOYDSSS11(at)MSN.COM (LLOYDSSS11(at)MSN.COM) Thanks for your great work.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:09 pm    Post subject: Commander Sighting in Buenos Aires Reply with quote

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]--> Barry, I rec'd them all .Great pix. I have no idea when it go the nose job. Will send tale of how it got into the Colombian navy while I'm still listed as one of the owners by UNCLE SAM (F.A.A.). Many thanks for your great work. I never thought id see pix of n6851S again. Lloyd
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:35 am    Post subject: Commander Sighting in Buenos Aires Reply with quote

Hi Lloyd,

Well, it’s not definite that ‘your’ 680 is the one that ended up with the Colombian Navy, as per the photo.
It’s just that of those Commanders that I know of in Colombia, but don’t know the aircraft’s serial number, the shot of the Navy one is the only 680 that I know of.
There could well be others that I’m not aware of.
For instance, some military serials have been reported, but the Model hasn’t been.

Best Regards,
Barry

From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of lloyd silverman
Sent: 11 December 2010 04:07
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Subject: Re: Commander Sighting in Buenos Aires

Barry, I rec'd them all .Great pix. I have no idea when it go the nose job. Will send tale of how it got into the Colombian navy while I'm still listed as one of the owners by UNCLE SAM (F.A.A.). Many thanks for your great work. I never thought id see pix of n6851S again. Lloyd
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 7:55 pm    Post subject: Commander Sighting in Buenos Aires Reply with quote

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]--> I UNDERSTAND. IT COULD BE... THANKS
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