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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:43 pm Post subject: Looking for a wiring diagram/manual for an Aero Commander 56 |
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Hi folks, I've been looking for this for awhile just to get an idea of what the original wiring in my commander was supposed to look like. Probably 40-50% of the wiring has been "upgraded/replaced/modified" however much of the older braided wiring is still in place and connecting to things that few of the A/Ps around here can readily identify. At least for function we can figure much out, but not necessary where the wires go from there. Since this is a restoration project, I'm not in any time rush, but would like to get a handle on much of the wiring (and the removal of much of the older unused wiring) while the plane is in pieces...
Marcos
P.S. This is for an Aero Commander 560 (GO-480 engines).
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:06 pm Post subject: Looking for a wiring diagram/manual for an Aero Commander 56 |
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Hi Marcos,
Good luck on this one. Several years ago we removed 42 pounds of unused wire and cannon plugs in my 680Fp. The problem with using the original wiring diagram is that the maintenance manual that you can get probably does not relate to your particular aircraft. We had to literally trace down each wire. Be careful, as some wiring will effect more than one instrument (for instance wiring from an old auto pilot that was removed twenty years ago may effect the elevator trim tab and HIS when the wiring from it is removed).
Moe
From: Marcos Della (mdella(at)gmail.com)
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 1:41 PM
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Subject: Looking for a wiring diagram/manual for an Aero Commander 560
Hi folks, I've been looking for this for awhile just to get an idea of what the original wiring in my commander was supposed to look like. Probably 40-50% of the wiring has been "upgraded/replaced/modified" however much of the older braided wiring is still in place and connecting to things that few of the A/Ps around here can readily identify. At least for function we can figure much out, but not necessary where the wires go from there. Since this is a restoration project, I'm not in any time rush, but would like to get a handle on much of the wiring (and the removal of much of the older unused wiring) while the plane is in pieces...
Marcos
P.S. This is for an Aero Commander 560 (GO-480 engines).
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aquadiver99(at)yahoo.com Guest
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:01 pm Post subject: Looking for a wiring diagram/manual for an Aero Commander 56 |
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and then what wiring replaces it?
Donnie Rose
205/492-8444
From: Jack B. Mills <moe-rosspistons(at)hotmail.com>
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Wed, December 22, 2010 10:04:28 PM
Subject: Re: Looking for a wiring diagram/manual for an Aero Commander 560
Hi Marcos,
Good luck on this one. Several years ago we removed 42 pounds of unused wire and cannon plugs in my 680Fp. The problem with using the original wiring diagram is that the maintenance manual that you can get probably does not relate to your particular aircraft. We had to literally trace down each wire. Be careful, as some wiring will effect more than one instrument (for instance wiring from an old auto pilot that was removed twenty years ago may effect the elevator trim tab and HIS when the wiring from it is removed).
Moe
From: Marcos Della (mdella(at)gmail.com)
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 1:41 PM
To: commander-list (commander-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Looking for a wiring diagram/manual for an Aero Commander 560
Hi folks, I've been looking for this for awhile just to get an idea of what the original wiring in my commander was supposed to look like. Probably 40-50% of the wiring has been "upgraded/replaced/modified" however much of the older braided wiring is still in place and connecting to things that few of the A/Ps around here can readily identify. At least for function we can figure much out, but not necessary where the wires go from there. Since this is a restoration project, I'm not in any time rush, but would like to get a handle on much of the wiring (and the removal of much of the older unused wiring) while the plane is in pieces...
Marcos
P.S. This is for an Aero Commander 560 (GO-480 engines).
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:02 am Post subject: Looking for a wiring diagram/manual for an Aero Commander 56 |
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Marcos,
The chances of your wiring resembling whats in the manual is small.
I would suggest you get hold of Geoffrey Pence at Twin Commander and see if he can supply the original diagrams for your plane. They might charge you for them but its well worth it.
Cheers
Richard
To all those on this list, Have a very Merry Christmas and New Year.
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcos Della
Sent: Thursday, 23 December 2010 8:41 AM
To: commander-list
Subject: Looking for a wiring diagram/manual for an Aero Commander 560
Hi folks, I've been looking for this for awhile just to get an idea of what the original wiring in my commander was supposed to look like. Probably 40-50% of the wiring has been "upgraded/replaced/modified" however much of the older braided wiring is still in place and connecting to things that few of the A/Ps around here can readily identify. At least for function we can figure much out, but not necessary where the wires go from there. Since this is a restoration project, I'm not in any time rush, but would like to get a handle on much of the wiring (and the removal of much of the older unused wiring) while the plane is in pieces...
Marcos
P.S. This is for an Aero Commander 560 (GO-480 engines). 0123456789012345678
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barry.collman(at)air-brit Guest
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:22 am Post subject: Looking for a wiring diagram/manual for an Aero Commander 56 |
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Hello Marcos,
I cannot help with your wiring diagram problem, but Richard’s suggestion of contacting Twin Commander is your best option.
Geoffrey Pence or Bill Ball (the Engineering Librarian) should be able to help, although Bill is not at work until early in January, as he’s been in hospital.
Which Commander are you restoring?
Certainly good news that one of the early examples is being cared for!
Best Regards,
Barry Collman
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcos Della
Sent: 22 December 2010 21:41
To: commander-list
Subject: Looking for a wiring diagram/manual for an Aero Commander 560
Hi folks, I've been looking for this for awhile just to get an idea of what the original wiring in my commander was supposed to look like. Probably 40-50% of the wiring has been "upgraded/replaced/modified" however much of the older braided wiring is still in place and connecting to things that few of the A/Ps around here can readily identify. At least for function we can figure much out, but not necessary where the wires go from there. Since this is a restoration project, I'm not in any time rush, but would like to get a handle on much of the wiring (and the removal of much of the older unused wiring) while the plane is in pieces...
Marcos
P.S. This is for an Aero Commander 560 (GO-480 engines).01234567890123456
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:00 am Post subject: Looking for a wiring diagram/manual for an Aero Commander 56 |
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Hello All,
John Towner is unable to reply to postings on the chatlist, so I’ve copied input from him as follows:
“I have been reading TCFG comments about wiring diagrams for AC's. My computer will not let me reply to TCFG. Just my 2 cents worth.
When we have purchased a Commander to put into service (cargo) we have removed all avionics and wiring, installed new instrument panels etc., removing about 350 lbs of weight and installed new King silver crown avionics and antennas weighting about 55 lbs total giving us about 300 lbs more useful load.
I can tell many stories about flying with the old avionics, not being able to talk to anyone and needing to obtain light gun signals to land.
OH! Merry Christmas and have a great holiday season.”
Best Regards,
Barry
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