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JeffG

Joined: 01 Jan 2011
Posts: 5

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 4:32 pm Post subject: Looking for FS2 Close To VA

Looking for an "OK" FS2 close to VA that has an "N" number that is priced reasonable.  Please let me know if you have one or know of someone who does.

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209GS

Joined: 07 Dec 2010
Posts: 14
Location: Richmond Va.

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 6:03 pm Post subject: Re: Looking for FS2 Close To VA

Did the Florida FS fall through?

JeffG

Joined: 01 Jan 2011
Posts: 5

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 6:33 pm Post subject: Looking for FS2 Close To VA

The shipper now wants $1,200 to ship it 950 miles.  I may reconsider by this weekend.  There are 3 at Beaverdam Airpark (VA33) where I plan to keep mine and the owner of the field is contacting them to see if any want to sell.  I'm finding out there are actually a lot of Firestars in VA.  If I get the one from FL I plan to recover and repower it (I guess you can say a full restoration) with an HKS-700E if I can afford it.  There is one for sale on Barnstormers now for about $5k.  It will be a project.

  

 On a side note, the red prototype Serial# 1 Slingshot that you see in all the Kolb advertisements and YouTube videos is for sale here in VA.  I spoke to the guy and he's letting it go for a very good price.  I'm afraid I would kill myself in that thing.  He's the same size as I am and he has a 50+ mile stall speed in it.  He hits the numbers at about 65 and slowly idles back.  Needs all of 1000 - 1200 feet.

  

 I've been here several times and it's real fun.  Only problem is I have to cross 14 miles of the Chesapeake Bay to get there.  I'll feel much better doing it with an HKS.  I know many say don't fly over anything you can't land on but if that was the case I would just stick with my car.  And besides, water is softer then trees or mountains and I can swim.

  

 http://www.campbellfieldairport.com/

  

 Scroll down and check out the firestar.  I hope I'm still doing this at that age.



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Did the Florida FS fall through?





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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
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Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:08 pm Post subject: Looking for FS2 Close To VA

From: "Jeff Gerlach" <jeff_gerlach(at)yahoo.com>



 On a side note, the red prototype Serial# 1 Slingshot that you see in all 

the Kolb advertisements and YouTube videos is for sale here in VA.  He's the 

same size as I am and he has a 50+ mile stall speed in it. He hits the 

numbers at about 65 and slowly idles back. Needs all of 1000 - 1200 feet.



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Jeff G/Gang:



My perception of the Slingshots are a little different from yours.



If that is the original Slingshot from Old Kolb Co, I flew it when it was 

brand new at Oshkosh.  May have been 1996.  Not sure.  would have to look in 

my log book.  It stalled at 43 mph clean and 38 mph with full flaperons, 

indicated airspeed.



The following Sun and Fun I flew a gentleman with a very large commercial 

video camera in the same SS.  Don't know what the stall speeds were, but if 

they had been unusually high, I think I would have remembered it.  I was 

flying during the in cockpit shots south of Lakeland through the scrub oaks, 

palmetto palms, and cow pastures, that are on Youtube.



Bruce Chesnut, owner of The New Kolb Aircraft Company, had a red SS with a 

912ULS.  It flew like the old original SS but with more get up and go.  The 

original was powered with a 582 Rotax.



The SS and Firefly share the same dimension wings (length, width, cord, and 

airfoil).  Flaperon dimensions are different.  Please correct me if I am 

wrong.  The 22' wing span flies much the same as the 27' and 30' wings, with 

the exception of a much quicker roll rate.  I like flying both the SS and 

the FF.  They are quick, nimble little hot rods.  Be fun to fly a 912ULS 

powered SS to Alaska, if I could find a place to stow my gear.



Your friend is burning up too much runway.  The SS lands much shorter than 

1000-1200 feet.



john h

mkIII

Titus, Alabama

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209GS

Joined: 07 Dec 2010
Posts: 14
Location: Richmond Va.

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:57 pm Post subject: Re: Looking for FS2 Close To VA

I had originally planned on the HKS for my Firestar, and had the engine ordered but due to an unfortunate glitch, didn't have enough money to go ahead with the purchase. Ended up going with the 503 with hopes of eventually getting the HKS sometime in the future. I think it would be a good combo together and like the idea of a 4 stroker in the back when I'm over the mountains.

Gerry

Thom Riddle

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1597
Location: Buffalo, NY, USA (9G0)

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 5:44 am Post subject: Re: Looking for FS2 Close To VA

I agree with John H on the Slingshot. Mine is a good bit heavier than one equipped with a 582 and its stall speed clean was 45 mph but about the same 38 with full flaperons. And it does not take 1000' to land or take-off. 



That was before I added home-made VGs to the wings. Now, without flaps, I run out of elevator travel at 42 mph without it reaching stall AOA. With half flaps, it now stalls at 35. I've never tested stall speed with full flaps after adding the VGs but suspect it may be a couple mph less.

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frank.goodnight(at)att.ne
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 6:44 am Post subject: Looking for FS2 Close To VA

Hi ,

  

 I have a firestar 2 with Hks, has EIS and BRS,  HYd brakes, full swivel tail wheel' also crome molly

 gear legs,both 6 and 8in tires mounted on 6in wheels, 18 gal alum fuel tank---- cage is uncovered.---

 shorty windscreen uninstalled, Garmin 96 GPS.. That I have been thinking about selling to finance another project.

 It's a little over 2 years old, experimental amature built.200hrs A/C and engine.

 not the prettyest plane out there, but I think its a good flyer.I,ve had it to 11,500feet with 15 gal fuel while

 crossing the mountins in New  Mexico and I weigh 260#. can deliver

Frankdo not archive

   From: 209GS <guebbing(at)aol.com>

To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 10:57:49 PM

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I had originally planned on the HKS for my Firestar, and had the engine ordered but due to an unfortunate glitch, didn't have enough money to go ahead with the purchase. Ended up going with the 503 with hopes of eventually getting the HKS sometime in the future. I think it would be a good combo together and like the idea of a 4 stroker in the back when I'm over the mountains.

Gerry





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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 7:36 am Post subject: Looking for FS2 Close To VA

Frank, any photos and or more info, like location and price.  You can  e-mail me off list if you like.

 Thank you

 Gene

    

  From: frank goodnight (frank.goodnight(at)att.net) 

 Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 8:26 AM

 To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com) 

 Subject: Re: Re: Looking for FS2 Close To  VA

  



   Hi ,

  

 I have a firestar 2 with Hks, has EIS and BRS,  HYd brakes, full  swivel tail wheel' also crome molly

 gear legs,both 6 and 8in tires mounted on 6in wheels, 18 gal alum fuel  tank---- cage is uncovered.---

 shorty windscreen uninstalled, Garmin 96 GPS.. That I have been thinking  about selling to finance another project.

 It's a little over 2 years old, experimental amature built.200hrs A/C and  engine.

 not the  prettyest plane out there, but I think its a good flyer.I,ve had it to  11,500feet with 15 gal fuel while

 crossing  the mountins in New  Mexico and I weigh 260#. can deliver

Frankdo not  archive

   From: 209GS  <guebbing(at)aol.com>

To:  kolb-list(at)matronics.com

Sent:  Tue, January 4, 2011 10:57:49 PM

Subject: Re: Looking for FS2  Close To VA



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I had  originally planned on the HKS for my Firestar, and had the engine ordered but  due to an unfortunate glitch, didn't have enough money to go ahead with the  purchase. Ended up going with the 503 with hopes of eventually getting the HKS  sometime in the future. I think it would be a good combo together and like the  idea of a 4 stroker in the back when I'm over the  mountains.

Gerry





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John Hauck

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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:13 am Post subject: Looking for FS2 Close To VA

I've never tested stall speed with full flaps after adding the VGs but 

suspect it may be a couple mph less.



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Thom Riddle

Thom R/Gang:



Why haven't you tested full flaperon stall?



john h

mkIII

Titus, Alabama

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cristalclear13

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Posts: 363
Location: Southeast Georgia

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:34 pm Post subject: Re: Looking for FS2 Close To VA

 	  JeffG wrote: 	
		  The shipper now wants $1,200 to ship it 950 miles.    

 http://www.campbellfieldairport.com/

  

 Scroll down and check out the firestar.  I hope I'm still doing this at that age.

	




It cost me nearly a thousand to go pick up my Mark II a little closer than that distance when I bought it (between renting the truck and gas, lodging, etc.).



I love that airport and the activities they do...and that Piper dog is the cutest!!  I wish our airport would have more participants.  Maybe if we found human bones on our airport it might peek people's interest.

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elleryweld(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:50 pm Post subject: Looking for FS2 Close To VA

he must be in phase one test flying .......LOL

 

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JeffG

Joined: 01 Jan 2011
Posts: 5

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 5:03 pm Post subject: Looking for FS2 Close To VA

You forgot to tell me what you want for it.  Send a pic or two.

  

 I had planned to put an HKS on the one I get anyway.  The engine mount isn't damaged or cracked is it?  I've been reading about improper HKS installations on Firestars.

  

 Jeff



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Subject: Re: Re: Looking for FS2 Close To VA

To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 9:26 AM



     Hi ,

  

 I have a firestar 2 with Hks, has EIS and BRS,  HYd brakes, full swivel tail wheel' also crome molly

 gear legs,both 6 and 8in tires mounted on 6in wheels, 18 gal alum fuel tank---- cage is uncovered.---

 shorty windscreen uninstalled, Garmin 96 GPS.. That I have been thinking about selling to finance another project.

 It's a little over 2 years old, experimental amature built.200hrs A/C and engine.

 not the prettyest plane out there, but I think its a good flyer.I,ve had it to 11,500feet with 15 gal fuel while

 crossing the mountins in New  Mexico and I weigh 260#. can deliver

Frankdo not archive

   From: 209GS <guebbing(at)aol.com>

To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 10:57:49 PM

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I had originally planned on the HKS for my Firestar, and had the engine ordered but due to an unfortunate glitch, didn't have enough money to go ahead with the purchase. Ended up going with the 503 with hopes of eventually getting the HKS sometime in the future. I think it would be a good combo together and like the idea of a 4 stroker in the back when I'm over the  mountains.

Gerry





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Thom Riddle

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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:28 am Post subject: Re: Looking for FS2 Close To VA

"Why haven't you tested full flaperon stall? 



john h"



I did not test the full flaperon stall speed because the half flaperon stall speed is slow enough(35)... same stall speed as my last Firestar with no flaps. 



I usually land with 1/2 flaperons in 3-point and make the first turn-off (which is 550' from the numbers) on our paved runway.

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John Hauck

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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 7:23 am Post subject: Looking for FS2 Close To VA

I did not test the full flaperon stall speed because the half flaperon 

stall speed is slow enough(35)... same stall speed as my last Firestar with 

no flaps.



I usually land with 1/2 flaperons in 3-point and make the first turn-off 

(which is 550' from the numbers) on our paved runway.



--------

Thom Riddle



Thom R/Folks:



Probably not going to be much difference, if any, between half and full 

flaperons.  Flaperons don't do a whole lot on the SS or FF, compared to the 

flaps on the MKIII.



However, if it was me, I'd want to explore and become proficient flying my 

airplane in all configurations to insure I was familiar with what to expect 

when and if I had to.



I am so rusty now, 3 short flights last month, since I had my accident last 

May.  Be glad to get some decent weather and time to go do some serious 

flying and learn how to fly my mkIII again.  Times a flying.  Three months 

to Sun and Fun.  Just looked at the Sun and Fun web site.  Surprise!  Sun 

and Fun is 29 Mar - 3 Apr this year.  Less than three months to go.  Better 

get my plane washed before then.  If I don't, it will be a record for length 

of time between washings.



john h

Titus, Alabama

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williamtsullivan(at)att.n
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 7:38 am Post subject: Looking for FS2 Close To VA

John- You better see to the wash job.  The plane might be over gross weight by then.  Barn crap builds up quick.

  

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   Less than three months to go.  Better 

get my plane washed before then.  If I don't, it will be a record for length 

of time between washings.



john h

Titus, Alabama 

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