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 Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:45 am Post subject: An item of critical importance when flying |
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This is my recommendation for holding your coffee:
http://www.aeromedix.com/category-exec/parent_id/22/category_id/145/nm/TravelJohn_Spill_Proof_Portable_Urinal
On a side note, spilled drinks in the cockpit are a potencial hazzard:
http://article.wn.com/view/2011/01/05/Spilled_coffee_causes_United_Airlines_flight_to_Frankfurt_to_9/
With a small plane like the RV10 they might scramble jets and shoot you down just because you spilled your coffee.
From: tdawson-townsend(at)aurora.aero
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: An item of critical importance when flying
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:47:21 +0000
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Um, what are the options folks have been using for bottle or cup holders in their ‘-10s?
I see RAM makes a drink holder with either suction cup or glareshield clamp mounts . . .
http://sportys.com/PilotShop/product/9235
http://sportys.com/PilotShop/product/14253
Tim
Tim Dawson-Townsend
RV-10 N52KS (http://aprs.fi/?call=n52ks)
tdt(at)aurora.aero (tdt(at)aurora.aero)
617-500-4812 (office)
617-905-4800 (mobile)
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Tim Olson
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:53 am Post subject: An item of critical importance when flying |
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I just put the screw top back on my beer bottle and
set it on the floor in the six pack holder.
Once the six-pack is done, I pass it back to the kids
to get me another. It works great for beer. I bet
you can do the same thing with other drinks. 
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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On 1/6/2011 11:47 AM, Dawson-Townsend,Timothy wrote:
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aerosport1
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:03 am Post subject: An item of critical importance when flying |
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Tim I have cup holders available at Aerosport Products. They can be mounted in many places. They flip open when needed.
www.aerosportproducts.com The cost is $20.00 each
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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dawson-Townsend,Timothy
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 12:47 PM
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Subject: An item of critical importance when flying
Um, what are the options folks have been using for bottle or cup holders in their ‘-10s?
I see RAM makes a drink holder with either suction cup or glareshield clamp mounts . . .
http://sportys.com/PilotShop/product/9235
http://sportys.com/PilotShop/product/14253
Tim
Tim Dawson-Townsend
RV-10 N52KS (http://aprs.fi/?call=n52ks)
tdt(at)aurora.aero (tdt(at)aurora.aero)
617-500-4812 (office)
617-905-4800 (mobile)
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:03 am Post subject: An item of critical importance when flying |
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Critical importance?
here are some options my wife suggested:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pspages/pilotreliefhorbracket.php
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/ps/cockpitaccessories_urinals.html
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Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 9:47 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: An item of critical importance when flying
Um, what are the options folks have been using for bottle or cup holders in their ‘-10s?
I see RAM makes a drink holder with either suction cup or glareshield clamp mounts . . .
http://sportys.com/PilotShop/product/9235
http://sportys.com/PilotShop/product/14253
Tim
Tim Dawson-Townsend
RV-10 N52KS (http://aprs.fi/?call=n52ks)
tdt(at)aurora.aero (tdt(at)aurora.aero)
617-500-4812 (office)
617-905-4800 (mobile)
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Lenny Iszak
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:29 am Post subject: Re: An item of critical importance when flying |
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Good idea Tim!
Since i don't have kids yet, i'm planning on installing a mini beer keg in the back, and routing some tubing through the overhead console, right next to the oxygen outlets. Now i just have to find an on-demand beer regulator and i'm set 
Lenny
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| Tim Olson wrote: | I just put the screw top back on my beer bottle and
set it on the floor in the six pack holder.
Once the six-pack is done, I pass it back to the kids
to get me another. It works great for beer. I bet
you can do the same thing with other drinks.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:57 am Post subject: An item of critical importance when flying |
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I'm making a Bose A20/beer can dispenser with straw. Soon available at www.PlaneAround.com! After two beers you can't tell the difference between Zulus or Bose.
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On Jan 6, 2011, at 12:29, "Lenny Iszak" <lenard(at)rapiddecision.com> wrote:
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Good idea Tim!
Since i don't have kids yet, i'm planning on installing a mini beer keg in the back, and routing some tubing through the overhead console, right next to the oxygen outlets. Now i just have to find an on-demand beer regulator and i'm set
Lenny
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Tim Olson wrote:
> I just put the screw top back on my beer bottle and
> set it on the floor in the six pack holder.
> Once the six-pack is done, I pass it back to the kids
> to get me another. It works great for beer. I bet
> you can do the same thing with other drinks.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
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> On 1/6/2011 11:47 AM, Dawson-Townsend,Timothy wrote:
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>> Um, what are the options folks have been using for bottle or cup holders
>> in their �-10s?
>>
>> I see RAM makes a drink holder with either suction cup or glareshield
>> clamp mounts . . .
>>
>> http://sportys.com/PilotShop/product/9235
>>
>> http://sportys.com/PilotShop/product/14253
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>> Tim
>>
>> Tim Dawson-Townsend
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>> RV-10 N52KS (http://aprs.fi/?call=n52ks)
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>> tdt(at)aurora.aero
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>> 617-500-4812 (office)
>>
>> 617-905-4800 (mobile)
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>> smaller flight
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Tim Olson
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:14 pm Post subject: An item of critical importance when flying |
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I like Lenny's idea with the beer to the overhead console.
That way it comes down along with the Oxygen lines.
You could plumb it to the Bose A20 along the mic boom
and right to your mouth. That should work pretty slick.
Then for the other matter, a simple relief tube should
fit nicely down through that hole in the front face of
the seat tower where the stick comes out. You could
run them to the tunnel, and join the left/right/front/rear
seats together to a central line that goes aft to the tail
and out the bottom near the rear tiedown hole...or to be
safe, run it through the bottom rudder fairing and out
by the tail light, with 6" of hose sticking out to
prevent some blowback.
Should be the perfect redneck traveling machine!
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
On 1/6/2011 1:54 PM, Seano wrote:
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I'm making a Bose A20/beer can dispenser with straw. Soon available at www.PlaneAround.com! After two beers you can't tell the difference between Zulus or Bose.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 6, 2011, at 12:29, "Lenny Iszak"<lenard(at)rapiddecision.com> wrote:
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> Good idea Tim!
> Since i don't have kids yet, i'm planning on installing a mini beer keg in the back, and routing some tubing through the overhead console, right next to the oxygen outlets. Now i just have to find an on-demand beer regulator and i'm set
>
> Lenny
>
> do not archive
> Tim Olson wrote:
>> I just put the screw top back on my beer bottle and
>> set it on the floor in the six pack holder.
>> Once the six-pack is done, I pass it back to the kids
>> to get me another. It works great for beer. I bet
>> you can do the same thing with other drinks.
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> On 1/6/2011 11:47 AM, Dawson-Townsend,Timothy wrote:
>>
>>> Um, what are the options folks have been using for bottle or cup holders
>>> in their �-10s?
>>>
>>> I see RAM makes a drink holder with either suction cup or glareshield
>>> clamp mounts . . .
>>>
>>> http://sportys.com/PilotShop/product/9235
>>>
>>> http://sportys.com/PilotShop/product/14253
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> Tim Dawson-Townsend
>>>
>>> RV-10 N52KS (http://aprs.fi/?call=n52ks)
>>>
>>> tdt(at)aurora.aero
>>>
>>> 617-500-4812 (office)
>>>
>>> 617-905-4800 (mobile)
>>>
>>> smaller flight
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=325828#325828
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kearney
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:22 pm Post subject: An item of critical importance when flying |
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Sean
Please don't forget those of us who prefer their drinks to have little umbrellas. There is more to life than beer.
Cheers
Led
Sent from my iPhone
On 2011-01-06, at 1:54 PM, Seano <sean(at)braunandco.com> wrote:
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I'm making a Bose A20/beer can dispenser with straw. Soon available at www.PlaneAround.com! After two beers you can't tell the difference between Zulus or Bose.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 6, 2011, at 12:29, "Lenny Iszak" <lenard(at)rapiddecision.com> wrote:
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> Good idea Tim!
> Since i don't have kids yet, i'm planning on installing a mini beer keg in the back, and routing some tubing through the overhead console, right next to the oxygen outlets. Now i just have to find an on-demand beer regulator and i'm set
>
> Lenny
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> do not archive
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> Tim Olson wrote:
>> I just put the screw top back on my beer bottle and
>> set it on the floor in the six pack holder.
>> Once the six-pack is done, I pass it back to the kids
>> to get me another. It works great for beer. I bet
>> you can do the same thing with other drinks.
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>> do not archive
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>> On 1/6/2011 11:47 AM, Dawson-Townsend,Timothy wrote:
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>>> Um, what are the options folks have been using for bottle or cup holders
>>> in their �-10s?
>>>
>>> I see RAM makes a drink holder with either suction cup or glareshield
>>> clamp mounts . . .
>>>
>>> http://sportys.com/PilotShop/product/9235
>>>
>>> http://sportys.com/PilotShop/product/14253
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> Tim Dawson-Townsend
>>>
>>> RV-10 N52KS (http://aprs.fi/?call=n52ks)
>>>
>>> tdt(at)aurora.aero
>>>
>>> 617-500-4812 (office)
>>>
>>> 617-905-4800 (mobile)
>>>
>>> smaller flight
>>>
>>>
>>>
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:29 pm Post subject: An item of critical importance when flying |
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On 1/6/2011 1:41 PM, John Gonzalez wrote: I use and like the Travel John gel packs. They work as advertised and have the benefit of being fully disposable. They also play well with other back-of-the-seat stuff. That is, Putting a 3 pack behind the seat is handy and non-offensive, unlike...
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pspages/liljohn.php
which I also carry and use. But I find myself packing it in the back and when alone, I can't get to it.
Seriously, for those of you who manage your need to urinate by managing your drinking - stop it! The only thing worse than fighting the urge through a descent and landing, is the much more subtle effects of dehydration. ...so, at the risk of TMI...
It seems that everyone is much more aware of hydration now in the days of bottled water marketing (no need to wonder why), but in the days before bottled water, I know that it was common practice for glider guiders to hold off on the drinking so they could make a 3 - 6 hour flight without urinating. It works, but 3 hours in a sunny cockpit, especially down low, starts to degrade one's flying abilities unless you stay hydrated. The classic result in glider racing was a high speed worm burning finish followed by a waffling pull up and a befuddled pilot unable to find the airport he just beat up. What happened? The theory was that adrenaline would get you thru the finish but the relief of finishing the race would shut off the valve and dehydration stupidity would take over. I know since I did something like that once and bent a bird.
In the 80s, we started talking about and using relief systems in a serious way. The problem is more acute for large pilots, lying prone, in a tight cockpit. External male catheters became my favorite solution:
http://www.vitalitymedical.com/Catalog/External-Catheters-154-.html
Skinny types in certain gliders could use a baggy, ideally with a tampon inside to keep the sloshing down. This was the predecessor to the Travel John above. I don't know how they did it but I know what it looks like when it doesn't work. The baggy/Travel John approach is not as much of a problem in a spacious cockpit like the '10 but perhaps if shyness is an issue the external, self adhesive, pre-applied male cath with leg bag is a good solution.
Female pilots and passengers have it a bit tougher. Less stuff is available, it doesn't work as well, and then the possible shyness factor. But all the same stuff applies.
In the end, for the pilot a diaper beats stupid and distracted. OTOH, passengers keep rather well in parched condition. Just apply beer when you land and join in.
PS - for those considering installation of a waste tube for airborne disposal - think twice. It requires a bit of testing to find a location that won't result in sucking the corrosive stuff into a steel hinge or clevis. Been there, done that too.
Bill "longing for the primer wars" Watson
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:32 pm Post subject: An item of critical importance when flying |
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Hey, some of us resemble that remark.
From: Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com>
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Thu, January 6, 2011 1:11:58 PM
Subject: Re: Re: An item of critical importance when flying
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)>
I like Lenny's idea with the beer to the overhead console.
That way it comes down along with the Oxygen lines.
You could plumb it to the Bose A20 along the mic boom
and right to your mouth. That should work pretty slick.
Then for the other matter, a simple relief tube should
fit nicely down through that hole in the front face of
the seat tower where the stick comes out. You could
run them to the tunnel, and join the left/right/front/rear
seats together to a central line that goes aft to the tail
and out the bottom near the rear tiedown hole...or to be
safe, run it through the bottom rudder fairing and out
by the tail light, with 6" of hose sticking out to
prevent some blowback.
Should be the perfect redneck traveling machine!
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
On 1/6/2011 1:54 PM, Seano wrote:
| Quote: | --> RV10-List message posted by: Seano<sean(at)braunandco.com (sean(at)braunandco.com)>
I'm making a Bose A20/beer can dispenser with straw. Soon available at www.PlaneAround.com! After two beers you can't tell the difference between Zulus or Bose.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 6, 2011, at 12:29, "Lenny Iszak"<lenard(at)rapiddecision.com (lenard(at)rapiddecision.com)> wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lenny Iszak"<lenard(at)rapiddecision.com (lenard(at)rapiddecision.com)>
>
> Good idea Tim!
> Since i don't have kids yet, i'm planning on installing a mini beer keg in the back, and routing some tubing through the overhead console, right next to the oxygen outlets. Now i just have to find an on-demand beer regulator and i'm set
>
> Lenny
>
> do not archive
> Tim Olson wrote:
>> I just put the screw top back on my beer bottle and
>> set it on the floor in the six pack holder.
>> Once the six-pack is done, I pass it back to the kids
>> to get me another. It works great for beer. I bet
>> you can do the same thing with other drinks.
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> On 1/6/2011 11:47 AM, Dawson-Townsend,Timothy wrote:
>>
>>> Um, what are the options folks have been using for bottle or cup holders
>>> in their �-10s?
>>>
>>> I see RAM makes a drink holder with either suction cup or glareshield
>>> clamp mounts . . .
>>>
>>> http://sportys.com/PilotShop/product/9235
>>>
>>> http://sportys.com/PilotShop/product/14253
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> Tim Dawson-Townsend
>>>
>>> RV-10 N52KS (http://aprs.fi/?call=n52ks)
>>>
>>> tdt(at)aurora.aero (tdt(at)aurora.aero)
>>>
>>> 617-500-4812 (office)
>>>
>>> 617-905-4800 (mobile)
>>>
>>> smaller flight
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=325828#325828
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Strasnuts
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:34 pm Post subject: An item of critical importance when flying |
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What about kokanee? Mmmmmm
And it's from Canada.
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On Jan 6, 2011, at 13:18, Les Kearney <kearney(at)shaw.ca> wrote:
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Sean
Please don't forget those of us who prefer their drinks to have little umbrellas. There is more to life than beer.
Cheers
Led
Sent from my iPhone
On 2011-01-06, at 1:54 PM, Seano <sean(at)braunandco.com> wrote:
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> I'm making a Bose A20/beer can dispenser with straw. Soon available at www.PlaneAround.com! After two beers you can't tell the difference between Zulus or Bose.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jan 6, 2011, at 12:29, "Lenny Iszak" <lenard(at)rapiddecision.com> wrote:
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>>
>> Good idea Tim!
>> Since i don't have kids yet, i'm planning on installing a mini beer keg in the back, and routing some tubing through the overhead console, right next to the oxygen outlets. Now i just have to find an on-demand beer regulator and i'm set
>>
>> Lenny
>>
>> do not archive
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>> Tim Olson wrote:
>>> I just put the screw top back on my beer bottle and
>>> set it on the floor in the six pack holder.
>>> Once the six-pack is done, I pass it back to the kids
>>> to get me another. It works great for beer. I bet
>>> you can do the same thing with other drinks.
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>>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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>>> On 1/6/2011 11:47 AM, Dawson-Townsend,Timothy wrote:
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>>>> Um, what are the options folks have been using for bottle or cup holders
>>>> in their �-10s?
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>>>> I see RAM makes a drink holder with either suction cup or glareshield
>>>> clamp mounts . . .
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>>>> http://sportys.com/PilotShop/product/9235
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>>>> http://sportys.com/PilotShop/product/14253
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>>>> Tim
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>>>> Tim Dawson-Townsend
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>>>> RV-10 N52KS (http://aprs.fi/?call=n52ks)
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>>>> tdt(at)aurora.aero
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>>>> 617-500-4812 (office)
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>>>> 617-905-4800 (mobile)
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>>>> smaller flight
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 1:09 pm Post subject: An item of critical importance when flying |
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On a serious note, I actually have been using these little
John's:
http://www.skygeek.com/littlejohn.html
Except I don't like the cap on this one as much as some
nice green colored ones I found at a local farm and
general purpose store. The ladies use it too, but
with a funnel type adapter.
I also bring a 1 or 2 liter size gatorade container on
some trips, strictly in case one isn't enough. I've
been amazed that on some of our trips, even with
only 2 hour legs, or especially with 4.5+ hour legs,
we can come close to filling maybe 2 or 3 liters
or more, between the 4 of us...and that's with 2
of the kids being twerps.
Hydration is important, as Bill W. says, and
so is comfort, if you're going to be shooting an
approach or something. I make it a practice to
"get comfy" before landing.
We also keep a jug of bleach water at the hangar
just for rinsing the bottles occasionally. I'm so
glad I have girls that are plenty happy to release
it all in flight...some of these trips would be
much harder if I had to do 2 more stops a day.
If you're not yet married...marry "Low Maintenance"...
honestly!
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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On 1/6/2011 2:25 PM, Bill Watson wrote:
| Quote: | On 1/6/2011 1:41 PM, John Gonzalez wrote:
> This is my recommendation for holding your coffee:
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> http://www.aeromedix.com/category-exec/parent_id/22/category_id/145/nm/TravelJohn_Spill_Proof_Portable_Urinal
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I use and like the Travel John gel packs. They work as advertised and
have the benefit of being fully disposable. They also play well with
other back-of-the-seat stuff. That is, Putting a 3 pack behind the seat
is handy and non-offensive, unlike...
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pspages/liljohn.php
which I also carry and use. But I find myself packing it in the back
and when alone, I can't get to it.
Seriously, for those of you who manage your need to urinate by managing
your drinking - stop it! The only thing worse than fighting the urge
through a descent and landing, is the much more subtle effects of
dehydration. ...so, at the risk of TMI...
It seems that everyone is much more aware of hydration now in the days
of bottled water marketing (no need to wonder why), but in the days
before bottled water, I know that it was common practice for glider
guiders to hold off on the drinking so they could make a 3 - 6 hour
flight without urinating. It works, but 3 hours in a sunny cockpit,
especially down low, starts to degrade one's flying abilities unless you
stay hydrated. The classic result in glider racing was a high speed
worm burning finish followed by a waffling pull up and a befuddled
pilot unable to find the airport he just beat up. What happened? The
theory was that adrenaline would get you thru the finish but the relief
of finishing the race would shut off the valve and dehydration stupidity
would take over. I know since I did something like that once and bent
a bird.
In the 80s, we started talking about and using relief systems in a
serious way. The problem is more acute for large pilots, lying prone,
in a tight cockpit. External male catheters became my favorite solution:
http://www.vitalitymedical.com/Catalog/External-Catheters-154-.html
Skinny types in certain gliders could use a baggy, ideally with a tampon
inside to keep the sloshing down. This was the predecessor to the
Travel John above. I don't know how they did it but I know what it
looks like when it doesn't work. The baggy/Travel John approach is not
as much of a problem in a spacious cockpit like the '10 but perhaps if
shyness is an issue the external, self adhesive, pre-applied male cath
with leg bag is a good solution.
Female pilots and passengers have it a bit tougher. Less stuff is
available, it doesn't work as well, and then the possible shyness
factor. But all the same stuff applies.
In the end, for the pilot a diaper beats stupid and distracted. OTOH,
passengers keep rather well in parched condition. Just apply beer when
you land and join in.
PS - for those considering installation of a waste tube for airborne
disposal - think twice. It requires a bit of testing to find a location
that won't result in sucking the corrosive stuff into a steel hinge or
clevis. Been there, done that too.
Bill "longing for the primer wars" Watson
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