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 Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:17 pm Post subject: FWF kit recieved on Friday... |
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Eight days from my call to Dale at Van's. After receiving it I am very happy with the quality. I spent about 5 min on the phone with Dale, 20 min running check to post office for certified mail. I left off 3 control cables, purchased longer RV-7 throttle cable from Van's. Purchased longer prop and mixture cables from ACS, another 5 min. Those two cables are due the beginning of Feb.
The only thing I could see you might want to improve on would be the integral firesleeved hoses. Just two fuel hoses have slip on fire sleeve from Van's. My thinking was that probably less than 1% of the fatal crashes are caused from fire(just a guess). I will install an engine compartment fire detection system using fusible links for less than $50. I also have Van's $50 brass fuel selector. At that price I even bought a spare to keep in my tool bag with all four fittings installed just in case I get a leak when I am traveling far from home. With fittings installed I could change it out in 15 min.
Very nice exhaust system from Larry Vetterman and my favorite was the MT prop governor made in Germany. I spent 3 yrs there in the Army.
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Kellym
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| Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:51 pm Post subject: FWF kit recieved on Friday... |
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I don't know if you have noted emails to the list in the past that the
MT governor that Van's supplies is for a narrow deck engine. If you are
going to use a wide deck engine you should have MT convert it to the
correct gear ratio for wide deck engines, it is different from the
narrow deck units.
Kelly
fiberglass hell
On 1/9/2011 8:17 PM, rv10flyer wrote:
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Eight days from my call to Dale at Van's. After receiving it I am very happy with the quality.
Very nice exhaust system from Larry Vetterman and my favorite was the MT prop governor made in Germany. I spent 3 yrs there in the Army.
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Wayne Gillispie, A&P 5/93, PPC 10/08
Bldr# 40983 SB
Fuselage 9/21/10- working on Sec 38 Rudder pedals/interior painting.
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| Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:25 pm Post subject: FWF kit recieved on Friday... |
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Narrow deck- rebuilt or used engine
Wide deck- New engines
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Kellym
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| Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:31 pm Post subject: FWF kit recieved on Friday... |
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Yes, you won't get a new narrow deck engine, which is why it makes no
sense that the only governor Van's sells is for a narrow deck engine.
You can get new or overhauled wide deck engines as well. Just be sure
you get governor with correct gear ratio for the engine you plan on using.
On 1/9/2011 9:22 PM, Pascal wrote:
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Narrow deck- rebuilt or used engine
Wide deck- New engines
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:35 am Post subject: FWF kit recieved on Friday... |
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For about $500 you can also install a fire suppression system. Stroud Fire
Safety OKC
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:36 am Post subject: FWF kit recieved on Friday... |
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I called MT America several days ago about this potential problem. Juergen told me that there is no need to be concerned about the combination Van's sold me.
He asked me when I had purchased the engine and the Firewall forward kit. I then told him I had the serial number for the governor. He asked me what letter the number had at the end of it. Mine had an "F". He confirmed, no problem, the governor will allow the engine to reach full power.
JOhn G
[quote] Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 21:28:47 -0700
From: kellym(at)aviating.com
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: FWF kit recieved on Friday...
Yes, you won't get a new narrow deck engine, which is why it makes no
sense that the only governor Van's sells is for a narrow deck engine.
You can get new or overhauled wide deck engines as well. Just be sure
you get governor with correct gear ratio for the engine you plan on using
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rv10flyer
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:13 pm Post subject: P-860-3 propeller governor |
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Mine was manufactured in November 2010 with s/n ending in G. Nice to know I don't have to send it back. I just wish that the control head/lever adjustment was already made at the factory for my RV-10 and IO-540-D4A5, both purchased through Van's. It is possible to damage the seal and cause an oil leak. Not something I want to have to do after spending $1,100. Van's said this morning that they have never heard of any problems with this governor. Sound familiar guys. The Gerate-Laufkarte says Bestimmt fur triebwerk: Lyc IO-360 instead of IO-540. So, probably as usual keeping inventory to a minimum. Since the 540 guys are much fewer numbers, they can make the adjustments right?
I believe the max rpm setting will be close as spec sheet says 2411 governor rpm which would be approx 2550 prop rpm. Those that are flying would know...do you guys go from full power ground run of 2550 to 2700 in flight?
Notes: 8.7 qts/min (at) 150 psi (at) 1750 rpm(Blow that piston seal and your dry in a little over a minute). Relief valve pres 315 psi (at) 1,750 rpm. Oil pressure increases pitch. Rotation CW. TBO= 2000 hrs or 6 yrs whichever comes first.
I'll sleep better tonight. Thanks for all the info fellow builders.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:49 pm Post subject: FWF kit recieved on Friday... |
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The control lever adjustment is no sweat. Cut the safety wires, loosen the six screws, rotate the arm to coorect position, tighten the screws and re safety wire.
Count it as safety wire practice.
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From: wayne.gillispie(at)yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 19:13:08 -0800
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
--> RV10-List message posted by: "rv10flyer" <wayne.gillispie(at)yahoo.com>
Mine was manufactured in November 2010 with s/n ending in G. Nice to know I don't have to send it back. I just wish that the control head/lever adjustment was already made at the factory for my RV-10 and IO-540-D4A5, both purchased through Van's. It is possible to damage the seal and cause an oil leak. Not something I want to have to do after spending $1,100. Van's said this morning that they have never heard of any problems with this governor. Sound familiar guys. The Gerate-Laufkarte says Bestimmt fur triebwerk: Lyc IO-360 instead of IO-540. So, probably as usual keeping inventory to a minimum. Since the 540 guys are much fewer numbers, they can make the adjustments right?
I believe the max rpm setting will be close as spec sheet says 2411 governor rpm which would be approx 2550 prop rpm. Those that are flying would know..do you guys go from full power ground run of 2550 to 2700 in flight?
Notes: 8.7 qts/min (at) 150 psi (at) 1750 rpm(Blow that piston seal and your dry in a little over a minute). Relief valve pres 315 psi (at) 1,750 rpm. Oil pressure increases pitch. Rotation CW. TBO= 2000 hrs or 6 yrs whichever comes first.
I'll sleep better tonight. Thanks for all the info fellow builders.
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Wayne Gillispie, A&P 5/93, PPC 10/08
Bldr# 40983 SB
Fuselage 9/21/10- working on Sec 39 Control System.
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