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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:52 pm    Post subject: AFS AOA flap switch Reply with quote

I don't understand why I have a Ray Allen flap position sensor which doesn't replace the flap switch for the AOA. Seems like a software issue which could supercede the hardware issue.

Anyone have pictures of the AOA flap switch installed. 
I have the Ray Allen flap sensor already completed.
Thanks
John
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:42 am    Post subject: AFS AOA flap switch Reply with quote

John,
I have the Ray Allen POS12 flap sensor. It displays the flap position on the AFS EFIS as well as gives the info to the AOA, It has nothing to do with the flap switch which does not connect into the AFS EFIS.
Alan


From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Gonzalez
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 12:47 AM
To: RV 10 group
Subject: AFS AOA flap switch


I don't understand why I have a Ray Allen flap position sensor which doesn't replace the flap switch for the AOA. Seems like a software issue which could supercede the hardware issue.


Anyone have pictures of the AOA flap switch installed.



I have the Ray Allen flap sensor already completed.



Thanks



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:35 am    Post subject: AFS AOA flap switch Reply with quote

Alan,

I’ve not seen anyone mount the POS12 like you did. I like it!

bob

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Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 6:36 AM
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Subject: RE: AFS AOA flap switch

John,
I have the Ray Allen POS12 flap sensor. It displays the flap position on the AFS EFIS as well as gives the info to the AOA, It has nothing to do with the flap switch which does not connect into the AFS EFIS.
Alan


From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Gonzalez
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 12:47 AM
To: RV 10 group
Subject: AFS AOA flap switch


I don't understand why I have a Ray Allen flap position sensor which doesn't replace the flap switch for the AOA. Seems like a software issue which could supercede the hardware issue.


Anyone have pictures of the AOA flap switch installed.



I have the Ray Allen flap sensor already completed.



Thanks



John
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:48 am    Post subject: AFS AOA flap switch Reply with quote

Bob,
It wasn’t my idea but I don’t remember who on the forum came up with it.
Alan


From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 7:22 AM
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Subject: RE: AFS AOA flap switch


Alan,

I’ve not seen anyone mount the POS12 like you did. I like it!

bob

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan Mekler
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 6:36 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: AFS AOA flap switch



John,
I have the Ray Allen POS12 flap sensor. It displays the flap position on the AFS EFIS as well as gives the info to the AOA, It has nothing to do with the flap switch which does not connect into the AFS EFIS.
Alan


From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Gonzalez
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 12:47 AM
To: RV 10 group
Subject: AFS AOA flap switch


I don't understand why I have a Ray Allen flap position sensor which doesn't replace the flap switch for the AOA. Seems like a software issue which could supercede the hardware issue.


Anyone have pictures of the AOA flap switch installed.



I have the Ray Allen flap sensor already completed.



Thanks



John
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:41 am    Post subject: AFS AOA flap switch Reply with quote

Does this look familiar? Smile[img]cid:1C33A638-4382-4C89-90F3-6DB637A0958A(at)myhome.westell.com[/img]

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Bob,
It wasn’t my idea but I don’t remember who on the forum came up with it.
Alan


From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 7:22 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: AFS AOA flap switch


Alan,

I’ve not seen anyone mount the POS12 like you did. I like it!

bob

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan Mekler
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 6:36 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: AFS AOA flap switch



John,
I have the Ray Allen POS12 flap sensor. It displays the flap position on the AFS EFIS as well as gives the info to the AOA, It has nothing to do with the flap switch which does not connect into the AFS EFIS.
Alan


From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Gonzalez
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 12:47 AM
To: RV 10 group
Subject: AFS AOA flap switch


I don't understand why I have a Ray Allen flap position sensor which doesn't replace the flap switch for the AOA. Seems like a software issue which could supercede the hardware issue.


Anyone have pictures of the AOA flap switch installed.



I have the Ray Allen flap sensor already completed.



Thanks



John
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 7:27 am    Post subject: AFS AOA flap switch Reply with quote

John, I don't have a photo handy but the AOA switch just tells the
EFIS when the flaps are down. Mine triggers when they're about 1/3
down.

Yes, I suppose the software might be able to pick the data off the
position sensor but I don't mind that the AOA has a redundant system
in that respect.

Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell

On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 9:47 PM, John Gonzalez <indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com> wrote:
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I don't understand why I have a Ray Allen flap position sensor which doesn't
replace the flap switch for the AOA. Seems like a software issue which could
supercede the hardware issue.
Anyone have pictures of the AOA flap switch installed.
I have the Ray Allen flap sensor already completed.
Thanks
John



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 7:56 am    Post subject: AFS AOA flap switch Reply with quote

Mike,
Thanks. It works great!
Alan


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Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 8:29 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: AFS AOA flap switch


Does this look familiar? Smile[img]cid:image001.jpg(at)01CBBA22.85AA3550[/img]




On Jan 22, 2011, at 7:45 AM, Alan Mekler wrote:



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Bob,
It wasn’t my idea but I don’t remember who on the forum came up with it.
Alan


From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 7:22 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: AFS AOA flap switch


Alan,

I’ve not seen anyone mount the POS12 like you did. I like it!

bob

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan Mekler
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 6:36 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: AFS AOA flap switch



John,
I have the Ray Allen POS12 flap sensor. It displays the flap position on the AFS EFIS as well as gives the info to the AOA, It has nothing to do with the flap switch which does not connect into the AFS EFIS.
Alan


From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Gonzalez
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 12:47 AM
To: RV 10 group
Subject: AFS AOA flap switch


I don't understand why I have a Ray Allen flap position sensor which doesn't replace the flap switch for the AOA. Seems like a software issue which could supercede the hardware issue.


Anyone have pictures of the AOA flap switch installed.



I have the Ray Allen flap sensor already completed.



Thanks



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:22 am    Post subject: AFS AOA flap switch Reply with quote

Dave, I think everyone except you misunderstood what I was trying to say. My flap position device(ray allen pos 12) is in place. I need a photo which show the the AOA switch. My mind is trying to grasp how to make the which through when it has less than 1/4" travel when all the other areas on the flap mechanism travel much greater distances. 

I guess I might be able to use it on the inside of the arc on the flap servo arm(closer to the rotation point)
JOhn

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From: dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 07:15:50 -0800
Subject: Re: AFS AOA flap switch
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

--> RV10-List message posted by: Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com>

John, I don't have a photo handy but the AOA switch just tells the
EFIS when the flaps are down. Mine triggers when they're about 1/3
down.

Yes, I suppose the software might be able to pick the data off the
position sensor but I don't mind that the AOA has a redundant system
in that respect.

Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell



On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 9:47 PM, John Gonzalez <indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com> wrote:
> I don't understand why I have a Ray Allen flap position sensor which doesn't
> replace the flap switch for the AOA. Seems like a software issue which could
> supercede the hardware issue.
> Anyone have pictures of the AOA flap switch installed.
> I have the Ray Allen flap sensor already completed.
> Thanks
> John





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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:36 am    Post subject: AFS AOA flap switch Reply with quote

This is what I did. I riveted a tab on the flap mechanism and mounted the switch on the bulkhead behind the flap weldments (see photos).


On Jan 22, 2011, at 1:16 PM, John Gonzalez wrote:
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Dave, I think everyone except you misunderstood what I was trying to say. My flap position device(ray allen pos 12) is in place. I need a photo which show the the AOA switch. My mind is trying to grasp how to make the which through when it has less than 1/4" travel when all the other areas on the flap mechanism travel much greater distances.

I guess I might be able to use it on the inside of the arc on the flap servo arm(closer to the rotation point)
JOhn

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From: dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com (dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 07:15:50 -0800
Subject: Re: AFS AOA flap switch
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)

--> RV10-List message posted by: Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com (dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com)>

John, I don't have a photo handy but the AOA switch just tells the
EFIS when the flaps are down. Mine triggers when they're about 1/3
down.

Yes, I suppose the software might be able to pick the data off the
position sensor but I don't mind that the AOA has a redundant system
in that respect.

Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell



On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 9:47 PM, John Gonzalez <indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com (indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com)> wrote:
> I don't understand why I have a Ray Allen flap position sensor which doesn't
> replace the flap switch for the AOA. Seems like a software issue which could
> supercede the hardware issue.
> Anyone have pictures of the AOA flap switch installed.
> I have the Ray Allen flap sensor already completed.
> Thanks
> John





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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:43 am    Post subject: AFS AOA flap switch Reply with quote

This might be a better picture. [img]cid:28591404-0B70-44F1-B09E-39949917C0C3(at)myhome.westell.com[/img]
On Jan 22, 2011, at 1:16 PM, John Gonzalez wrote:
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Dave, I think everyone except you misunderstood what I was trying to say. My flap position device(ray allen pos 12) is in place. I need a photo which show the the AOA switch. My mind is trying to grasp how to make the which through when it has less than 1/4" travel when all the other areas on the flap mechanism travel much greater distances.

I guess I might be able to use it on the inside of the arc on the flap servo arm(closer to the rotation point)
JOhn

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From: dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com (dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 07:15:50 -0800
Subject: Re: AFS AOA flap switch
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)

--> RV10-List message posted by: Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com (dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com)>

John, I don't have a photo handy but the AOA switch just tells the
EFIS when the flaps are down. Mine triggers when they're about 1/3
down.

Yes, I suppose the software might be able to pick the data off the
position sensor but I don't mind that the AOA has a redundant system
in that respect.

Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell



On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 9:47 PM, John Gonzalez <indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com (indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com)> wrote:
> I don't understand why I have a Ray Allen flap position sensor which doesn't
> replace the flap switch for the AOA. Seems like a software issue which could
> supercede the hardware issue.
> Anyone have pictures of the AOA flap switch installed.
> I have the Ray Allen flap sensor already completed.
> Thanks
> John





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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:26 pm    Post subject: AFS AOA flap switch Reply with quote

IIRC, mine uses a cam attached to the torque tube. The OD of the cam
lobe doesn't go all the way around the travel.

I'll have the whole thing apart for the annual next month. Let me
know if that's not too late for a photo.

Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
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Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
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On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 10:16 AM, John Gonzalez <indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com> wrote:
Quote:
Dave, I think everyone except you misunderstood what I was trying to say. My
flap position device(ray allen pos 12) is in place. I need a photo which
show the the AOA switch. My mind is trying to grasp how to make the which
through when it has less than 1/4" travel when all the other areas on the
flap mechanism travel much greater distances.
I guess I might be able to use it on the inside of the arc on the flap servo
arm(closer to the rotation point)
JOhn

> From: dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 07:15:50 -0800
> Subject: Re: AFS AOA flap switch
> To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
>
>
> <dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com>
>
> John, I don't have a photo handy but the AOA switch just tells the
> EFIS when the flaps are down. Mine triggers when they're about 1/3
> down.
>
> Yes, I suppose the software might be able to pick the data off the
> position sensor but I don't mind that the AOA has a redundant system
> in that respect.
>
> Dave Saylor
> AirCrafters
> 140 Aviation Way
> Watsonville, CA 95076
> 831-722-9141 Shop
> 831-750-0284 Cell
>
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 9:47 PM, John Gonzalez <indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com>
> wrote:
> > I don't understand why I have a Ray Allen flap position sensor which
> > doesn't
> > replace the flap switch for the AOA. Seems like a software issue which
> > could
> > supercede the hardware issue.
> > Anyone have pictures of the AOA flap switch installed.
> > I have the Ray Allen flap sensor already completed.
> > Thanks
> > John
>
>




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