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Anyone using the Crow seatbelts in their -10? When I ordered mine, I didn't specify and dimensions--I just said I needed a complete set for the RV-10, since I understand they've done a few. Having now installed mine, the shoulder straps seem to be too short between the latch and the "Y". See the attached pictures. The "Y" is right on top of the headrest. I could move that back a few inches, but then the shoulder pads would be in the wrong place. Something doesn't seem right here--any ideas?
-Rob
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| Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:17 pm Post subject: Crow Harnesses |
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Rob, I agree that the pads could be a little more forward. In the first
picture it looks like you're leaning forward a little to put tension on
the harness. Either that or you have a serious shoulder/back problem!!!
If it was me, I'd move the 'Y' forward a little and then take the slack
out by pulling on the adjustment for the shoulder belts. The shoulder
harness should be adjusted so that in your 'cruise' seat position with
the harness just a little slack from snug (yeah, go ahead and measure
that!) you can reach all the stuff on the panel that you need to .....
without having to twist the upper torso very much. The only problem
moving the 'Y' forward is that it causes the shoulder belts to rub the
side of the neck. This is a problem I have in my Pitts, and the
solution was the shoulder pads for car shoulder belts. Nice and soft on
the neck now. But you'd hate to just cover up the pads you paid so
dearly for.
Linn
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| Quote: | Anyone using the Crow seatbelts in their -10? When I ordered mine, I
didn't specify and dimensions--I just said I needed a complete set for
the RV-10, since I understand they've done a few. Having now
installed mine, the shoulder straps seem to be too short between the
latch and the "Y". See the attached pictures. The "Y" is right on
top of the headrest. I could move that back a few inches, but then
the shoulder pads would be in the wrong place. Something doesn't seem
right here--any ideas?
-Rob
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RV-10 "Finishing" Kit
Woodinville, WA (near Seattle)
http://kochman.net/N819K
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rv10rob(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:44 am Post subject: Crow Harnesses |
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Thanks, Linn... I sometimes do slouch quite a bit, which is probably what you're seeing. I did some adusting, per your recommendaton, and I think it'll work.
Now I just need to figure out what seat position I want to fly it in.
-Rob
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Linn Walters <pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net (pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net)> wrote:
[quote]--> RV10-List message posted by: Linn Walters <pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net (pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net)>
Rob, I agree that the pads could be a little more forward. In the first picture it looks like you're leaning forward a little to put tension on the harness. Either that or you have a serious shoulder/back problem!!!
If it was me, I'd move the 'Y' forward a little and then take the slack out by pulling on the adjustment for the shoulder belts. The shoulder harness should be adjusted so that in your 'cruise' seat position with the harness just a little slack from snug (yeah, go ahead and measure that!) you can reach all the stuff on the panel that you need to ..... without having to twist the upper torso very much. The only problem moving the 'Y' forward is that it causes the shoulder belts to rub the side of the neck. This is a problem I have in my Pitts, and the solution was the shoulder pads for car shoulder belts. Nice and soft on the neck now. But you'd hate to just cover up the pads you paid so dearly for.
Linn
On 2/4/2011 2:25 PM, Rob Kochman wrote:
| Quote: | Anyone using the Crow seatbelts in their -10? When I ordered mine, I didn't specify and dimensions--I just said I needed a complete set for the RV-10, since I understand they've done a few. Having now installed mine, the shoulder straps seem to be too short between the latch and the "Y". See the attached pictures. The "Y" is right on top of the headrest. I could move that back a few inches, but then the shoulder pads would be in the wrong place. Something doesn't seem right here--any ideas?
-Rob
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| Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:38 pm Post subject: Re: Crow Harnesses |
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Rob;
Attached is the US Transportation AC21-34, a take on the GA safety belt restraint systems.
Conrad B.
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dlm34077(at)q.com
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| Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:44 pm Post subject: Crow Harnesses |
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The option I used.
www.inertialbelts.com
I could supply some installed pictures if needed. Contact me offlist.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:04 pm Post subject: Crow Harnesses |
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Thanks, guys... I'm having second thoughts with my "good enough" assessment from the other day. The belts feel fine, but it seems like the geometry is off, with the shoulder straps essentially coming from the top-center of the headrest. I think I'm going to call and have them re-make the front seat shoulder straps. There's also *way* too much extra strap (around 3 feet) when I have them adjusted, so something is clearly not right. Maybe when I said "RV-10" they assumed all RVs are the same? Not really sure what's going on, but this is something that needs to be done right.
DAR inspection in 13 days. Not exactly what I want to be messing with now...
-Rob
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 5:34 PM, DLM <dlm34077(at)q.com (dlm34077(at)q.com)> wrote:
[quote]--> RV10-List message posted by: "DLM" <dlm34077(at)q.com (dlm34077(at)q.com)>
The option I used.
www.inertialbelts.com
I could supply some installed pictures if needed. Contact me offlist.
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jchang10
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| Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:16 pm Post subject: Crow Harnesses |
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Let us know what they say. Ordering the same harnesses is near the top
of my todo list.
Jae
40533
On 2/7/2011 6:01 PM, Rob Kochman wrote:
| Quote: | Thanks, guys... I'm having second thoughts with my "good enough"
assessment from the other day. The belts feel fine, but it seems like
the geometry is off, with the shoulder straps essentially coming from
the top-center of the headrest. I think I'm going to call and have
them re-make the front seat shoulder straps. There's also *way* too
much extra strap (around 3 feet) when I have them adjusted, so
something is clearly not right. Maybe when I said "RV-10" they
assumed all RVs are the same? Not really sure what's going on, but
this is something that needs to be done right.
DAR inspection in 13 days. Not exactly what I want to be messing with
now...
-Rob
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