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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:14 pm    Post subject: Section 46 - Engine Mount Question Reply with quote

Hi there guys, I'm at the point of installing my engine mount as per Section 46, page 46-2 (Drawing Revision 1) and I'd just like to clarify the hole sizes and installation hardware for the engine mount please. I have amended my drawings from Revision 0 to Revision 1, so i think that I have the correct installation drawings for Section 46?

The instructions indicate to drill a 3/8" hole in the Firewall Assembly common to the WD-1001-D1 Dyna-1 Engine Mount, I did this. The drawing also makes reference to 6 x AN6-24 drilled bolts, which are used to attach the engine mount to the Firewall Assembly.

In my firewall forward kit I have kit 'EA DYNA BOLT I(O)-540 Motor Mount Bolt Kit' which appears to correspond to the hardware required to attach the engine mount.  This kit contains the following hardware:

4 x AN7-26 Drilled Bolt, 7/16"
4 x AN310-7 Nut, Castle, 7/16"
8 x AN960 -716 Washer
4 x MS24665 -283 Cotter Pin

The above kit appears to be totally different from the hardware specified in the drawing, coupled with the fact that it is short 2 bolts, 2 nuts, 4 washers and 2 cotter pins and the diameter of the bolts are 7/16" instead of 3/8"?

Have I missed a drawing revision guys?

I'm hoping that you might be able to clarify this for me as I'm a little confused here.

Kind regards
 


Patrick Pulis
RV-10 #40299
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:38 am    Post subject: Section 46 - Engine Mount Question Reply with quote

Rev 1 12/5/08 is the version that I have, which I received with my finish kit this past spring.

I think you are confusing two different steps.

46-2 talks about how to fasten the mount to the firewall and all the required hardware is included in the finish kit. I just performed this task a couple weeks ago and the instructions are correct. There does appear to be some “magic” to get all the holes to line up appropriately. There was a thread about a month ago, which I can’t remember if it was here or on VAF, talking about this. My bottom holes didn’t align perfectly, but the 3/16” hole was within the circumference of the 3/8” hole. Fortunately, the motor mount kept the bit from wandering using the 3/16” hole as the center.

The parts you are referencing in the fwf kit are for attaching the engine to the mount. Two different tasks. These are used on page FF1-5. Here’s a snipet:

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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 1:11 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Section 46 - Engine Mount Question

Hi there guys, I'm at the point of installing my engine mount as per Section 46, page 46-2 (Drawing Revision 1) and I'd just like to clarify the hole sizes and installation hardware for the engine mount please. I have amended my drawings from Revision 0 to Revision 1, so i think that I have the correct installation drawings for Section 46?




The instructions indicate to drill a 3/8" hole in the Firewall Assembly common to the WD-1001-D1 Dyna-1 Engine Mount, I did this. The drawing also makes reference to 6 x AN6-24 drilled bolts, which are used to attach the engine mount to the Firewall Assembly.



In my firewall forward kit I have kit 'EA DYNA BOLT I(O)-540 Motor Mount Bolt Kit' which appears to correspond to the hardware required to attach the engine mount. This kit contains the following hardware:



4 x AN7-26 Drilled Bolt, 7/16"

4 x AN310-7 Nut, Castle, 7/16"

8 x AN960 -716 Washer

4 x MS24665 -283 Cotter Pin



The above kit appears to be totally different from the hardware specified in the drawing, coupled with the fact that it is short 2 bolts, 2 nuts, 4 washers and 2 cotter pins and the diameter of the bolts are 7/16" instead of 3/8"?



Have I missed a drawing revision guys?



I'm hoping that you might be able to clarify this for me as I'm a little confused here.



Kind regards







Patrick Pulis

RV-10 #40299

Adelaide, South Australia


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:17 am    Post subject: Section 46 - Engine Mount Question Reply with quote

The bolts you want are in the finish kit, I just got mine out
yesterday...bag 1522

On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Patrick Pulis
<rv10free2fly(at)yahoo.com.au> wrote:
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Hi there guys, I'm at the point of installing my engine mount as per Section
46, page 46-2 (Drawing Revision 1) and I'd just like to clarify the hole
sizes and installation hardware for the engine mount please.  I have amended
my drawings from Revision 0 to Revision 1, so i think that I have the
correct installation drawings for Section 46?

The instructions indicate to drill a 3/8" hole in the Firewall Assembly
common to the WD-1001-D1 Dyna-1 Engine Mount, I did this.  The drawing also
makes reference to 6 x AN6-24 drilled bolts, which are used to attach the
engine mount to the Firewall Assembly.

In my firewall forward kit I have kit 'EA DYNA BOLT I(O)-540 Motor Mount
Bolt Kit' which appears to correspond to the hardware required to attach the
engine mount.  This kit contains the following hardware:

4 x AN7-26 Drilled Bolt, 7/16"
4 x AN310-7 Nut, Castle, 7/16"
8 x AN960 -716 Washer
4 x MS24665 -283 Cotter Pin

The above kit appears to be totally different from the hardware specified in
the drawing, coupled with the fact that it is short 2 bolts, 2 nuts, 4
washers and 2 cotter pins and the diameter of the bolts are 7/16" instead of
3/8"?

Have I missed a drawing revision guys?

I'm hoping that you might be able to clarify this for me as I'm a little
confused here.

Kind regards

Patrick Pulis
RV-10 #40299
Adelaide, South Australia



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:54 pm    Post subject: Section 46 - Engine Mount Question Reply with quote

Thanks for clarifying my confusion guys, must be the heat (+44C).



Kind regards

Pat


From: Bob Leffler <rv(at)thelefflers.com>
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Sun, 30 January, 2011 10:02:06 PM
Subject: RE: Section 46 - Engine Mount Question


Rev 1 12/5/08 is the version that I have, which I received with my finish kit this past spring.

I think you are confusing two different steps.

46-2 talks about how to fasten the mount to the firewall and all the required hardware is included in the finish kit. I just performed this task a couple weeks ago and the instructions are correct. There does appear to be some “magic” to get all the holes to line up appropriately. There was a thread about a month ago, which I can’t remember if it was here or on VAF, talking about this. My bottom holes didn’t align perfectly, but the 3/16” hole was within the circumference of the 3/8” hole. Fortunately, the motor mount kept the bit from wandering using the 3/16” hole as the center.

The parts you are referencing in the fwf kit are for attaching the engine to the mount. Two different tasks. These are used on page FF1-5. Here’s a snipet:

[img]cid:1.2733542582(at)web110412.mail.gq1.yahoo.com[/img]
 
bob

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 1:11 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Section 46 - Engine Mount Question



Hi there guys, I'm at the point of installing my engine mount as per Section 46, page 46-2 (Drawing Revision 1) and I'd just like to clarify the hole sizes and installation hardware for the engine mount please.  I have amended my drawings from Revision 0 to Revision 1, so i think that I have the correct installation drawings for Section 46?




The instructions indicate to drill a 3/8" hole in the Firewall Assembly common to the WD-1001-D1 Dyna-1 Engine Mount, I did this. The drawing also makes reference to 6 x AN6-24 drilled bolts, which are used to attach the engine mount to the Firewall Assembly.



In my firewall forward kit I have kit 'EA DYNA BOLT I(O)-540 Motor Mount Bolt Kit' which appears to correspond to the hardware required to attach the engine mount. This kit contains the following hardware:



4 x AN7-26 Drilled Bolt, 7/16"

4 x AN310-7 Nut, Castle, 7/16"

8 x AN960 -716 Washer

4 x MS24665 -283 Cotter Pin



The above kit appears to be totally different from the hardware specified in the drawing, coupled with the fact that it is short 2 bolts, 2 nuts, 4 washers and 2 cotter pins and the diameter of the bolts are 7/16" instead of 3/8"?



Have I missed a drawing revision guys?



I'm hoping that you might be able to clarify this for me as I'm a little confused here.



Kind regards







Patrick Pulis

RV-10 #40299

Adelaide, South Australia






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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:54 pm    Post subject: Section 46 - Engine Mount Question Reply with quote

Thanks Kelly.

Is everyone drilling the 3/8" bolt holes in the firewall in one hit or step drilling them?

Its a very large step from the original hole to the 3/8" hole. I'm stopping and lubricating the drill bit as I go, but is slow going for each hole.

Regards

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The bolts you want are in the finish kit, I just got mine out
yesterday...bag 1522

On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Patrick Pulis
<rv10free2fly(at)yahoo.com.au (rv10free2fly(at)yahoo.com.au)> wrote:
Quote:
Hi there guys, I'm at the point of installing my engine mount as per Section
46, page 46-2 (Drawing Revision 1) and I'd just like to clarify the hole
sizes and installation hardware for the engine mount please. I have amended
my drawings from Revision 0 to Revision 1, so i think that I have the
correct installation drawings for Section 46?

The instructions indicate to drill a 3/8" hole in the Firewall Assembly
common to the WD-1001-D1 Dyna-1 Engine Mount, I did this. The drawing also
makes reference to 6 x AN6-24 drilled bolts, which are used to attach the
engine mount to the Firewall Assembly.

In my firewall forward kit I have kit 'EA DYNA BOLT I(O)-540 Motor Mount
Bolt Kit' which appears to correspond to the hardware required to attach the
engine mount. This kit contains the following hardware:

4 x AN7-26 Drilled Bolt, 7/16"
4 x AN310-7 Nut, Castle, 7/16"
8 x AN960 -716 Washer
4 x MS24665 -283 Cotter Pin

The above kit appears to be totally different from the hardware specified in
the drawing, coupled with the fact that it is short 2 bolts, 2 nuts, 4
washers and 2 cotter pins and the diameter of the bolts are 7/16" instead of
3/8"?

Have I missed a drawing revision guys?

I'm hoping that you might be able to clarify this for me as I'm a little
confused here.

Kind regards

Patrick Pulis
RV-10 #40299
Adelaide, South Australia
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:38 pm    Post subject: Section 46 - Engine Mount Question Reply with quote

Is everyone drilling the 3/8" bolt holes in the firewall in one hit or step drilling them?

My bottom holes didn’t align perfectly, but the 3/16” hole was within the circumference of the 3/8” hole. Fortunately, the motor mount kept the bit from wandering using the 3/16” hole as the center. 

You really need to drill these with the mount in place, so that eliminates the step drill option.  Like I mentioned previously, the engine mount does a good job of keep the bit in place if the original 3/16” hole isn’t quite centered.

We have the opposite problem at the moment.  We’re experiencing a warm spell today of about 0 C  :^)  It’s been 10-15 degrees colder the last couple weeks.

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