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In order to use the 2-blade scimitar prop, I needed a counter balanced engine.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:12 am Post subject: IO360-B1G6 |
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Parallel valve counter balanced. I didn't realize there was one. Looks
like it has provision for either a rear or front mounted governor. The
rear one could be a scavenge pump if you wanted to turbo-normalize it!
Get rid of the vacuum pump and put a B&C 20 amp standby alternator up
there and go all electric instruments. Looks like the sump
configuration would handle the PF exhaust. Go with 9.0:1 CR pistons for
all around use. Nice engine! Go for a STC with the Scimitar prop,Gary!
I've got some experience with a 3 blade Scimitar on my Bonanza and I've
flown an RV with the 2 blade Scimitar and believe me they are nice
props. Feels like someone kicked you in the ass about 1 second after
you get the throttle all the way in. Much better than Hartzell's old
blade design. And from the problems the RV crowd around here has had
with MT props I wouldn't want one, even if it is lighter weight!
Cliff
On 3/17/2011 12:34 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
| Quote: | In order to use the 2-blade scimitar prop, I needed a counter balanced
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Here it is.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:52 am Post subject: IO360-B1G6 |
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Cliff,
THis one will be STCd with 10:1 pistons. Derated to 180 hp by manifold pressure.
It's the same sump as the -A4K. The stock engine mount and airbox will be used.
Not sure about the governor yet. Looking into the inlet on my Tiger, I think it will fit without a lot of aggravation if it needs to go in front.
Gary
From: flyv35b <flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com>
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Sent: Fri, March 18, 2011 6:08:45 AM
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Parallel valve counter balanced. I didn't realize there was one. Looks like it has provision for either a rear or front mounted governor. The rear one could be a scavenge pump if you wanted to turbo-normalize it! Get rid of the vacuum pump and put a B&C 20 amp standby alternator up there and go all electric instruments. Looks like the sump configuration would handle the PF exhaust. Go with 9.0:1 CR pistons for all around use. Nice engine! Go for a STC with the Scimitar prop,Gary!
I've got some experience with a 3 blade Scimitar on my Bonanza and I've flown an RV with the 2 blade Scimitar and believe me they are nice props. Feels like someone kicked you in the ass about 1 second after you get the throttle all the way in.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 12:49 pm Post subject: IO360-B1G6 |
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“if you wanted to turbo-normalize it”
Yes, yes, a thousand times yes!
See if TAT will adapt the Cardinal systemJ
As for the Hartzels, on the Bo they are heavier than the Macauleys BUT, I admit my friend’s A36 with the new Scimitar does seem to get up and go better than mine with my 409. Cruise isn’t much different but he really gets off the runway and climbs well.
Jamey
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Subject: Re: IO360-B1G6
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: flyv35b <flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com>
Parallel valve counter balanced. I didn't realize there was one. Looks
like it has provision for either a rear or front mounted governor. The
rear one could be a scavenge pump if you wanted to turbo-normalize it!
Get rid of the vacuum pump and put a B&C 20 amp standby alternator up
there and go all electric instruments. Looks like the sump
configuration would handle the PF exhaust. Go with 9.0:1 CR pistons for
all around use. Nice engine! Go for a STC with the Scimitar prop,Gary!
I've got some experience with a 3 blade Scimitar on my Bonanza and I've
flown an RV with the 2 blade Scimitar and believe me they are nice
props. Feels like someone kicked you in the ass about 1 second after
you get the throttle all the way in. Much better than Hartzell's old
blade design. And from the problems the RV crowd around here has had
with MT props I wouldn't want one, even if it is lighter weight!
Cliff
On 3/17/2011 12:34 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
| Quote: | In order to use the 2-blade scimitar prop, I needed a counter balanced
engine.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 4:05 pm Post subject: IO360-B1G6 |
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"Parallel valve counter balanced. I didn't realize there was one. "
Well, there wasn't. Ken asked Lycoming if we could make a -B1E into a -B1E6 and was told they could make a certified -B1G6. Good enough.
From: James Courtney <jamey(at)jamescourtney.net>
To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Fri, March 18, 2011 1:46:39 PM
Subject: RE: IO360-B1G6
“if you wanted to turbo-normalize it”
Yes, yes, a thousand times yes!
See if TAT will adapt the Cardinal systemJ
As for the Hartzels, on the Bo they are heavier than the Macauleys BUT, I admit my friend’s A36 with the new Scimitar does seem to get up and go better than mine with my 409. Cruise isn’t much different but he really gets off the runway and climbs well.
Jamey
From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of flyv35b
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 6:09 AM
To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: IO360-B1G6
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: flyv35b <flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com>
Parallel valve counter balanced. I didn't realize there was one. Looks
like it has provision for either a rear or front mounted governor. The
rear one could be a scavenge pump if you wanted to turbo-normalize it!
Get rid of the vacuum pump and put a B&C 20 amp standby alternator up
there and go all electric instruments. Looks like the sump
configuration would handle the PF exhaust. Go with 9.0:1 CR pistons for
all around use. Nice engine! Go for a STC with the Scimitar prop,Gary!
I've got some experience with a 3 blade Scimitar on my Bonanza and I've
flown an RV with the 2 blade Scimitar and believe me they are nice
props. Feels like someone kicked you in the ass about 1 second after
you get the throttle all the way in. Much better than Hartzell's old
blade design. And from the problems the RV crowd around here has had
with MT props I wouldn't want one, even if it is lighter weight!
Cliff
On 3/17/2011 12:34 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
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| Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:41 am Post subject: IO360-B1G6 |
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You mentioned that the stock Tiger engine mount would be retained.
Maybe it's just my imagination but the photos of the -B1G6 engine look
like a straight conical mount rather than the dynafocal mount that the
-A4K uses. Am I wrong?
Cliff
On 3/18/2011 5:02 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
| Quote: | "Parallel valve counter balanced. I didn't realize there was one. "
Well, there wasn't. Ken asked Lycoming if we could make a -B1E into a
-B1E6 and was told they could make a certified -B1G6. Good enough.
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*From:* James Courtney <jamey(at)jamescourtney.net>
*To:* teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com
*Sent:* Fri, March 18, 2011 1:46:39 PM
*Subject:* RE: IO360-B1G6
“if you wanted to turbo-normalize it”
Yes, yes, a thousand times yes!
See if TAT will adapt the Cardinal systemJ
As for the Hartzels, on the Bo they are heavier than the Macauleys BUT,
I admit my friend’s A36 with the new Scimitar does seem to get up and go
better than mine with my 409. Cruise isn’t much different but he really
gets off the runway and climbs well.
Jamey
*From:*owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *flyv35b
*Sent:* Friday, March 18, 2011 6:09 AM
*To:* teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com
*Subject:* Re: IO360-B1G6
Parallel valve counter balanced. I didn't realize there was one. Looks
like it has provision for either a rear or front mounted governor. The
rear one could be a scavenge pump if you wanted to turbo-normalize it!
Get rid of the vacuum pump and put a B&C 20 amp standby alternator up
there and go all electric instruments. Looks like the sump
configuration would handle the PF exhaust. Go with 9.0:1 CR pistons for
all around use. Nice engine! Go for a STC with the Scimitar prop,Gary!
I've got some experience with a 3 blade Scimitar on my Bonanza and I've
flown an RV with the 2 blade Scimitar and believe me they are nice
props. Feels like someone kicked you in the ass about 1 second after
you get the throttle all the way in. Much better than Hartzell's old
blade design. And from the problems the RV crowd around here has had
with MT props I wouldn't want one, even if it is lighter weight!
Cliff
On 3/17/2011 12:34 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
> In order to use the 2-blade scimitar prop, I needed a counter balanced
> engine.
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> Here it nbsp; - The TeamGrumman-List Email
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List">http://www.mSame
<http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List">http://www.mSame>
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href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
<http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com>
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<http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c=======>==========
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| Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:57 am Post subject: IO360-B1G6 |
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It kind of looks like that. The -B series IO360 is a dynofocal mount.
From: flyv35b <flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com>
To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 6:37:42 AM
Subject: Re: IO360-B1G6
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: flyv35b <flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com (flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com)>
You mentioned that the stock Tiger engine mount would be retained.
Maybe it's just my imagination but the photos of the -B1G6 engine look
like a straight conical mount rather than the dynafocal mount that the
-A4K uses. Am I wrong?
Cliff
On 3/18/2011 5:02 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
| Quote: | "Parallel valve counter balanced. I didn't realize there was one. "
Well, there wasn't. Ken asked Lycoming if we could make a -B1E into a
-B1E6 and was told they could make a certified -B1G6. Good enough.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
*From:* James Courtney <jamey(at)jamescourtney.net (jamey(at)jamescourtney.net)>
*To:* teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com (teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com)
*Sent:* Fri, March 18, 2011 1:46:39 PM
*Subject:* RE: IO360-B1G6
“if you wanted to turbo-normalize it”
Yes, yes, a thousand times yes!
See if TAT will adapt the Cardinal systemJ
As for the Hartzels, on the Bo they are heavier than the Macauleys BUT,
I admit my friend’s A36 with the new Scimitar does seem to get up and go
better than mine with my 409. Cruise isn’t much different but he really
gets off the runway and climbs well.
Jamey
*From:*owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com)
[mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com)] *On Behalf Of *flyv35b
*Sent:* Friday, March 18, 2011 6:09 AM
*To:* teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com (teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com)
*Subject:* Re: IO360-B1G6
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: flyv35b <flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com (flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com)>
Parallel valve counter balanced. I didn't realize there was one. Looks
like it has provision for either a rear or front mounted governor. The
rear one could be a scavenge pump if you wanted to turbo-normalize it!
Get rid of the vacuum pump and put a B&C 20 amp standby alternator up
there and go all electric instruments. Looks like the sump
configuration would handle the PF exhaust. Go with 9.0:1 CR pistons for
all around use. Nice engine! Go for a STC with the Scimitar prop,Gary!
I've got some experience with a 3 blade Scimitar on my Bonanza and I've
flown an RV with the 2 blade Scimitar and believe me they are nice
props. Feels like someone kicked you in the ass about 1 second after
you get the throttle all the way in. Much better than Hartzell's old
blade design. And from the problems the RV crowd around here has had
with MT props I wouldn't want one, even if it is lighter weight!
Cliff
On 3/17/2011 12:34 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
> In order to use the 2-blade scimitar prop, I needed a counter balanced
> engine.
>
> Here it nbsp; - The TeamGrumman-List Email
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List">http://www.mSame
<http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List">http://www.mSame>
great content also available via the Web
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
<http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com>
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