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 Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:43 pm Post subject: 582 help required. |
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I have a slight problem with the exhaust gaskets on my 582 spitting oil.
They don't seem to be loose but oil seems to escape and it tends to be
messy. Has anyone else had this issue and dealt with it successfully? The
manifold is currently held by two bolts per cylinder but I can do three plus
a stud/nut is it will help.
Dave G.
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kitfox555(at)sbcglobal.ne
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:19 pm Post subject: 582 help required. |
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Had the same thing, I found after tighten them they stopped and have not leaked yet
Jerry Evans
KitfoxII
Magalia Calif.
N582'er'
kitfox 555
--- On Wed, 3/30/11, Dave <occom(at)ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
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From: Dave <occom(at)ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: 582 help required.
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Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 2:09 PM
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I have a slight problem with the exhaust gaskets on my 582 spitting oil.
They don't seem to be loose but oil seems to escape and it tends to be
messy. Has anyone else had this issue and dealt with it successfully? The
manifold is currently held by two bolts per cylinder but I can do three plus
a stud/nut is it will help.
Dave Gonics.com/Navigator?RotaxEngines-List" target=_blank>http://www.matronics; -Maww.matronics.com/contribution" =======
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pcarillonsr(at)neo.rr.com
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:32 pm Post subject: 582 help required. |
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On 3/30/2011 5:09 PM, Dave wrote:
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I have a slight problem with the exhaust gaskets on my 582 spitting oil.
They don't seem to be loose but oil seems to escape and it tends to be
messy. Has anyone else had this issue and dealt with it successfully? The
manifold is currently held by two bolts per cylinder but I can do three plus
a stud/nut is it will help.
Dave G.
Dave, I doubt you'll get a response on this list, most on this list have 912's. I tried last year, I had a question on a 503 and never got a response. Try the Kolb list you'll probably
do better.
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bob(at)fly-ul.com
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:45 pm Post subject: 582 help required. |
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On 02:09 PM 3/30/2011, Dave wrote:
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I have a slight problem with the exhaust gaskets on my 582 spitting oil.
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Are they new? Old? How many gaskets do you have on each cylinder? Rotax wants to see two.
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kitfox555(at)sbcglobal.ne
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:26 pm Post subject: 582 help required. |
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to add to the last post I have 4 boltz per cylinder I think that will help on the grey head
Jerry Evans
KitfoxII
Magalia Calif.
N582'er'
kitfox 555
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From: jerry evans <kitfox555(at)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: 582 help required.
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Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 3:46 PM
Had the same thing, I found after tighten them they stopped and have not leaked yet
Jerry Evans
KitfoxII
Magalia Calif.
N582'er'
kitfox 555
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From: Dave <occom(at)ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: 582 help required.
To: rotaxengines-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 2:09 PM
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I have a slight problem with the exhaust gaskets on my 582 spitting oil.
They don't seem to be loose but oil seems to escape and it tends to be
messy. Has anyone else had this issue and dealt with it successfully? The
manifold is currently held by two bolts per cylinder but I can do three plus
a stud/nut is it will help.
Dave Gonics.com/Navigator?RotaxEngines-List" target=_blank>http://www.matronics; -Maww.matronics.com/contribution" =======
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john firth
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 1:42 am Post subject: 582 help required. |
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Hello Dave, Does your 582 have the double jointed exhaust bend on it? The earlier one piece ones could set up a resonant vibration which could split the silencer and so obviously put strain on the manifold studs and flanges. I have used socket head capscrews on my manifold and with a bit of grinding the top of the head have managed to get all 8 in. You have to put two of the screws in before offering the manifold up and run them in bit at a time with a ball wrench but i am happier with the result although there is always a small amount of black oil around it which this wipes of easily with a bit of fuel on a rag, I think the gaskets are a bit porous and running rich as we do there will be some oily vapour in the exhaust.
Regards, john.
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I have a slight problem with the exhaust gaskets on my 582 spitting oil.
They don't seem to be loose but oil seems to escape and it tends to be
messy. Has anyone else had this issue and dealt with it successfully? The
manifold is currently held by two bolts per cylinder but I can do three plus
a stud/nut is it will help.
Dave G.
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cicrn(at)telus.net
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:26 pm Post subject: 582 help required. |
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I am surprised that no one has responded with the solution. I have
taken Bob Robertson's (Light Engine Services) Rotax Two Stroke
Service/Maintenance Course a couple of times. (It is fantastic; a
must for anyone who operates a two stroke!).
I had the same problem on my 503 and then on my 582. The solution is:
First make sure your cylinders are on square (straight). Rotax has a
straight edge tool that is to be used when torquing down the
cylinders. Then use new gaskets. This alone will not fix the problem.
The problem is when the new exhaust manifold heats and cools, it
changes shape.. The exhaust flange faces become out of plane (not
parallel) as a result of the heating and subsequent warping of the
exhaust manifold. This is what causes the exhaust leak/slobbering.
The answer is simply take the exhaust manifold off and plane it down
parallel. The easiest way to use a belt sander and sand it down until
the surfaces are all touching. You could also put some sand paper
down on a flat surface like a table saw and sand the exhaust manifold
flange surface by hand. A little care and common sense will yield
good results.
Most of the Rotax 2 strokes in our club had this problem until a few
us took the course. Since then everyone has fixed the problem by
doing this simple fix.
Good Luck,
Joe
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I have a slight problem with the exhaust gaskets on my 582 spitting
oil.
They don't seem to be loose but oil seems to escape and it tends to be
messy. Has anyone else had this issue and dealt with it
successfully? The
manifold is currently held by two bolts per cylinder but I can do
three plus
a stud/nut is it will help.
Dave G.
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